entrerix Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 my understanding: smart companies like blizzard have figured out that a great game can be a best seller for YEARS, and so don't worry as much about "opening weekend", but for most "ok" video games, the first few weeks will decide whether or not the game was financially successful or not. also, console gamers tend to only want what's new. if your game doesn't splash, they don't buy it ever. Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
Oblarg Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 I don't get exactly what they lose buy getting paid few months later. It's a game. Box office openings are not a concern. They lose because they get paid significantly less money. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
Bos_hybrid Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 I'm going further than that. I'm not going to boycott the game, but I am *not* going to buy it until they release the inevitable lowered-price bundle with all the nonsense that they charge for on day 1 included. Sound plan with one problem, I don't believe they ever released a bundle edition of ME2, unless you count the PS3 version.
Oblarg Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Sound plan with one problem, I don't believe they ever released a bundle edition of ME2, unless you count the PS3 version. If they don't, I won't buy it - but they did this with DA2, so I'm fairly certain they'll do with with ME3, as well. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
Tale Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 There's no DA2 bundle. There's a DAO bundle. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Oblarg Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 There's no DA2 bundle. There's a DAO bundle. Oh, right. DA2 was so crap that I doubt it'd have been particularly profitable. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
greylord Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 I'm going further than that. I'm not going to boycott the game, but I am *not* going to buy it until they release the inevitable lowered-price bundle with all the nonsense that they charge for on day 1 included. Sound plan with one problem, I don't believe they ever released a bundle edition of ME2, unless you count the PS3 version. Something I wish they would have done. I would have been happy if they had released a version of ME2 with everything, and wonder why they didn't.
Maria Caliban Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 There's only ONE way to solve this argument. Penisfencing! E-penisfencing. I'll note that Tale chickened out tonight. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
Nepenthe Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 There's no DA2 bundle. There's a DAO bundle. Oh, right. DA2 was so crap that I doubt it'd have been particularly profitable. Well, it sold more than DAO and was developed in a fraction of the time. I think it was very profitable, I just suspect they're not yet done with it. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Orogun01 Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Investment companies (e.g. publishers) wants as much return of investment as fast as possible. Otherwise they won't have that return to reinvest asap in the next project. The faster you get your money back, the faster it can get reinvested, the higher the profitability. Not much different from a financial institution or a movie company. With the difference that a movie company makes an additional buck after the movies has left the theaters with DVD/BluRay sales, and then there's selling the movie rights to TV channels. Maybe if Video Game publisher's became more savvy like that there would be alternate sources to finance a game other than direct revenue and they would charge 60 freaking bucks. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
kirottu Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Do I actually unlock something for ME3 while playing ME3 demo? This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
HoonDing Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Any word on whether the Prothean is romancable? Last of his (her?) race, 50000 years old... there's a lot of potential here for fixing another tortured soul. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Gorgon Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 You realise that you lot are morally obligated not to buy the DDeluxe version right. *stares intently* Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Janmanden Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 A union of gamers would be nice to put some pressure on game developers and publishers, especially the rich ones, that could easily do better, but let's make an exception here. The sooner you all buy it, the sooner Bioware will have satisfied their profit margins and the sooner I can get it with a discount. Don't stall it ffs.. (Signatures: disabled)
Gorgon Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 SCAB !. *keys Jan's car* Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Gfted1 Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Orogun01 Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 A union of gamers would be nice to put some pressure on game developers and publishers, especially the rich ones, that could easily do better, but let's make an exception here. The sooner you all buy it, the sooner Bioware will have satisfied their profit margins and the sooner I can get it with a discount. Don't stall it ffs.. I have said this before in conversations but that's probably going to be harder than it seems. So far this industry is under tight control by publishers and with literally thousands of people waiting to get a job within, they can afford to fire and blacklist a few troublemakers. It may be a bit cynical to assume that their intentions are selfish but I've never seen them crying over the working conditions or even try to oversee that their workers are being treated fairly. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Gorgon Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Maybe you read that wrong ? A union for the gamers, we don't care if they lock their coders off in the basement and periodically slip pizza slices under the door as a reward for productivity. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Hurlshort Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Yes, let's start forcing distributors of goods to sign contractors with their consumers. That doesn't sound like a potential disaster at all. There are consumer watchdog groups you can join, which might be a better option.
Malcador Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Easier alternative is just to wait for the bundle to go on sale. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Tale Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Easier alternative is just to wait for the bundle to go on sale. It's easy because it's unlikely to happen. The only bundle of a Bioware game from this generation was for DAO. 1 game out of 4. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Malcador Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Well, wait for Steam to put the DLCs and game on sale ? I thought they had done that with ME2. And Bioware's response-ish http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/02/23/bioware-defend-mass-effect-3-from-ashes-day-one-dlc/ Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
BobSmith101 Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Well, wait for Steam to put the DLCs and game on sale ? I thought they had done that with ME2. And Bioware's response-ish http://www.pcgamer.c...es-day-one-dlc/ Making a Prothean DLC is just a cynical money grab. Once ME3 is done Bioware don't have anything else but the damaged DA brand or something new. All this bad PR could well come back and bite them.
Tale Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Well, wait for Steam to put the DLCs and game on sale ? I thought they had done that with ME2. And Bioware's response-ish http://www.pcgamer.c...es-day-one-dlc/ Steam has never sold Bioware DLC. Except with the DAO bundle. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Morgoth Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) ME3 won't come to Steam, buddy. And waiting for a hypothetical GoTY Edition is not in the cards for me. Not gonna wait a year to play it while missing out all the cool memes and jokes when people play it on release (not to mention the spoilers). Edited February 23, 2012 by Morgoth Rain makes everything better.
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