CoM_Solaufein Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Discussion on those wonderful DLCs past, present and future. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
CoM_Solaufein Posted June 4, 2011 Author Posted June 4, 2011 Nothing good or bad to say about the DLCs? War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
Lexx Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 That old thread was too young to die. Anyway, Qore preview stuff in hd quality is . "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
HoonDing Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 Nothing good or bad to say about the DLCs? I finally caved in and got Dead Money and while story & characters are interesting, I can now totally understand why people complained about the gameplay. It's just not fun. The constant BEEP BEEP BEEP is simply maddening. Luckily I have a character with 100 Stealth & Light Step perk so the first part of the DLC was smooth sailing. I can't fathom how a character without those abilities would be able to get through it without going insane, though. I also don't understand why your character loses all gear at the beginning... aren't the collars enough? Seems pretty stupid for Father Elijah to rid his lackeys off all their gear if he wants them to survive in one of the most dangerous areas of the Mojave. Overall, very mixed feelings. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Enoch Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 Nothing good or bad to say about the DLCs? I finally caved in and got Dead Money and while story & characters are interesting, I can now totally understand why people complained about the gameplay. It's just not fun. The constant BEEP BEEP BEEP is simply maddening. Luckily I have a character with 100 Stealth & Light Step perk so the first part of the DLC was smooth sailing. I can't fathom how a character without those abilities would be able to get through it without going insane, though. I also don't understand why your character loses all gear at the beginning... aren't the collars enough? Seems pretty stupid for Father Elijah to rid his lackeys off all their gear if he wants them to survive in one of the most dangerous areas of the Mojave. Overall, very mixed feelings. God's companion Perk that has the same effect as Light Step. I generally would take him along for the first sweep through an area. The collar-beeping didn't bug me all that much-- I approached like I would a puzzle game and found some satisfaction in probing where I could and couldn't go and figuring out how to open up new areas for exploration. The constant health draining, though, was a source of much stress until I found the code to get Stimpaks from the vending machines.
WorstUsernameEver Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 I also don't understand why your character loses all gear at the beginning... aren't the collars enough? Seems pretty stupid for Father Elijah to rid his lackeys off all their gear if he wants them to survive in one of the most dangerous areas of the Mojave. He.. doesn't?
Lexx Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Didn't he explained that the casino security system automatically took that stuff away from you? Don't really remember anymore. The only thing that I found annoying in Dead Money was all that running around through labyrinth-like corridors. *This* was driving me crazy, the speaker and stuff not really... Didn't had much problems with them and usualy came around them pretty smooth all the time. Edited June 5, 2011 by Lexx "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
HoonDing Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 One of the complaints about BEEP BEEP BEEP was that it leads to trial-and-error gameplay, and that is totally true. Whenever you hear BEEP BEEP BEEP, you're never sure whether you have to look for the emitter to destroy or just run on until the BEEP BEEP BEEP stops. Problem is, near the end your head gets blown off as soon as you hesitate a few seconds. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Starwars Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 I think that's really only true up to a point. Most of the radios can be found pretty easily IMO by using the "go forward and look around, then retreat" strategy. And if you don't find any, then it's usually a "run through like crazy" section. There was *one* section in Dead Money where I found the radios extremely annoying (and died a few times) and that was a section fairly close to the end. Other than that, I don't think it was particularly bad. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0
Undecaf Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 The only thing that I found annoying in Dead Money was all that running around through labyrinth-like corridors. *This* was driving me crazy, the speaker and stuff not really... Didn't had much problems with them and usualy came around them pretty smooth all the time. Same here. Also, the constant rusty darkness which initially created a nice eerie atmosphere, wore off and turned pretty tedious well before the DLC ended. Good thing it wasn't longer than it was. Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys."
HoonDing Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) I finished it. Pretty good overall, I'd rate it 7/10. Would've been 8/10 if the ending wasn't so abrupt... I'd like to have talked to Christine & Dean Domino one more time before leaving. Gameplay became very easy once I made it into the casino and managed to conjure up thousands of chips playing blackjack. Before that, it was adequately challenging due to limited resources, though frustrating at points because I played through it with my 2 INT character who had to search for Electric fuse boxes due to low Repair skill. Higher lockpick/science skill would've helped a lot as well. Then again, I had forgotten this character had Cherchez la femme perk, which lead to some nice, unique dialogue options with Christine. Now I'm back in the Wasteland, and massively over-encumbered because my gear materialized again... is there some kind of console command that allows one to teleport to the Strip? It's kind of a long, annoying walk otherwise. I've also access to Honest Hearts, should I play it *before* or *after* the quest Render unto Caesar? Edited June 5, 2011 by virumor The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Enoch Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Now I'm back in the Wasteland, and massively over-encumbered because my gear materialized again... is there some kind of console command that allows one to teleport to the Strip? It's kind of a long, annoying walk otherwise. You can do it piecemeal, leaving some stuff at the Bunker and fast-traveling back and forth a couple times. I've figured out why Honest Hearts isn't really speaking to me as much as Dead Money did. There's no mystary. Once you chat with Graham and Daniel, and once you find the bulk of the Survivalist journals, the plot relies on either empathy for the NPCs or the largely gamist drive to finish and get back to the Mojave to keep the player interested. There may well be further narrative rewards that I haven't gotten to yet, but I just don't have that "What's really going on here?" impetus that Dead Money and the other good Fallout sidequests had. Absent that, the steps along the way feel somewhat mechanistic-- I'm chasing down quest markers rather than working to puzzle out a problem.
WorstUsernameEver Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I've also access to Honest Hearts, should I play it *before* or *after* the quest Render unto Caesar? As far as I know there are no unique dialogue options/changes based on that, but I don't know. Either way, it would be very cosmetic Joshua Graham doesn't give a damn about the Mojave anymore .
Lexx Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 yes, there are none. I think this is because voice recprding for caesar was done already at that point and no new lines could be recorded? "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Wombat Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Seems like Blood Money has influence of Avellone and Honest Heart has that of Sawyer. And the former is mostly criticized due to its game-play while the latter is done for its weak story. So, why did they stop work together, unlike the core project? Didn't Feargus once say story for Avellone and game-play for Sawyer?
WorstUsernameEver Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Finished Honest Hearts. The main quest was a very shallow, very boring quest.. and so were the side quests. The character arcs were interesting but I didn't really feel like I impacted them at all. Overall, the environments and exploration make it worth the price but I found it inferior to Dead Money in possibly every way besides the art.
LadyCrimson Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Now I'm back in the Wasteland, and massively over-encumbered because my gear materialized again... is there some kind of console command that allows one to teleport to the Strip? It's kind of a long, annoying walk otherwise. Probably too late now, but if you don't mind using the console, plain old "god mode" (tgm) means you can still run while encumbered - it ignores encumbrance as well as all kinds of other things (like bullet usage, heh). I'm not sure about FT...I'd think it'd work tho. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Lexx Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 You could as well teleport into the cell of your choice then. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
LadyCrimson Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Pretty much. I just don't know the console command or cell info for that, while tgm is easy to remember. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Walsingham Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 To be judicious, I have to say that as much as I disliked Honest Hearts, I can appreciate that some people would like it. Plenty to biff, new area, new kit. Surely a checklist for some goons? I'm going to leave it another month then roll me up a new character and go from scratch, low charisma, high self-sustained constructy. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Wombat Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I may go as far as Dead Money after I finish the Witcher 2, but may as well just leave FONV with the pleasant memory. Off Topic: Heavy Rain was on my wish list before upgrading my PC to I find it remained exclusive for PS 3. I'd probably go for Assassin's Creed series once it got a sale. Deus Ex: Human Revolution is blinking at the corner, too.
Bendu Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Michael Gamble (Producer on the Mass Effect franchise at BioWare.) https://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/statu...984949863784448 finished FalloutNV: Dead Money.not impressed.i have no problem with linearity, but this feels like a chore.reminds me how -not- to make DLC Yeah, FNV needs more DLC like weapons and appearance packs...
Flouride Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Michael Gamble (Producer on the Mass Effect franchise at BioWare.)https://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/statu...984949863784448 finished FalloutNV: Dead Money.not impressed.i have no problem with linearity, but this feels like a chore.reminds me how -not- to make DLC Yeah, FNV needs more DLC like weapons and appearance packs... Maybe they should have added a driveable vehicle into the DLC and put few missions involving it, make it atleast 3 times shorter and they might have gotten Gamble's seal of approval Hate the living, love the dead.
Oner Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Rofl, what a wanker. Too bad I can't remember my twitter password. -.- Edited June 14, 2011 by Oner Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13.
Lexx Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Don't worry, I bet a lot people will backfire at him. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
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