Nepenthe Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 I replayed this again, and this time "only" Mordin and Samara died. But why? Is it because I let them kill their targets without interference, or had they to die anyway? I thought it was pretty straight forward how to keep everybody alive. -Get everybody loyal -Get every upgrade for Normandy -At the end, choose suitable people for the jobs. Tali/Legion for tech, Miranda/Garrus for lead and Samara/Jack for biotics. Anyone can lead the crew back to safety. Not really. The final thing is that the team "holding the line" needs to be beefy. They are all assigned a point value (which is boosted if loyal), and if the point value is not high enough, somebody squishy will die. Grunt and Zaeed have apparently the highest of these values, so if you have them "holding the line" and send somebody else back and take other people with you, you should be doing fine on that front. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
~Di Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Meh. I just did the new Hammerhead DLC last night. Good thing it was free or I'd be mad as heck. Got nothing out of it but a few XP, some credits, and cramped fingers from mashing two keys for two hours straight. Am I the only one who hated this pointless exercise?
Deadly_Nightshade Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Am I the only one who hated this pointless exercise? I have yet to try it but from what I've heard you're not alone. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
I want teh kotor 3 Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 At least its free. I've yet to try it (the 360 is getting an ff13-and-gow3-induced break) but I've head both good and bad things. In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
~Di Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 OMG. I've just gotten the Geth Pulse Rifle by completing the recruit Tali quest on Hardcore. Utterly brutal. That damned gun better be worth it!
GreasyDogMeat Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 I liked it myself. It beats gathering minerals. My biggest disappointment was at the end where you find the sphere. I was hoping you would get some sort of crazy vision like with the sphere in ME1.
~Di Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) I liked it myself. It beats gathering minerals. My biggest disappointment was at the end where you find the sphere. I was hoping you would get some sort of crazy vision like with the sphere in ME1. I wrote that after doing the first quest, because I thought that was all there was. I now see in my journal that there are other hammerhead quests. Maybe I'll like them better. I don't much like the vehicle, though. It's very twitchy and hard to handle. I miss my mako. The lack of a save feature in these missions is really, really irritating. Edited March 30, 2010 by ~Di
deganawida Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I liked it myself. It beats gathering minerals. My biggest disappointment was at the end where you find the sphere. I was hoping you would get some sort of crazy vision like with the sphere in ME1. I wrote that after doing the first quest, because I thought that was all there was. I now see in my journal that there are other hammerhead quests. Maybe I'll like them better. I don't much like the vehicle, though. It's very twitchy and hard to handle. I miss my mako. The lack of a save feature in these missions is really, really irritating. Do you like Mario? If not, you probably won't like the rest of the quests. I've done them twice, but only for the extra 10% biotic damage you can find in the last mission. Oh, if you do decide to do the missions, prepare for frustration on the geth one: There's no save, and it's easy to die on Hardcore and above, meaning you have to start the whole mission over again. New question: Does anyone know how to edit the loadout for characters? I have beaten the game with a Soldier and Vanguard, and want to do an Infiltrator, but I want an Assault Rifle from Freedom's Progress on. I know I can unlock it in the Collector's Ship , but the Widow is just too, too sexy (I actually prefer it on my Soldier to the Revenant). I also know that SMGs fill a good portion of the role that ARs fill (though missing the further end of mid-range), but I like using ARs more, and that blank spot on the right side of my Infiltrator's back is driving me mad. Any tips on how to edit my save game to allow this would be greatly appreciated.
Bos_hybrid Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) New question: Does anyone know how to edit the loadout for characters? I have beaten the game with a Soldier and Vanguard, and want to do an Infiltrator, but I want an Assault Rifle from Freedom's Progress on. I know I can unlock it in the Collector's Ship , but the Widow is just too, too sexy (I actually prefer it on my Soldier to the Revenant). I also know that SMGs fill a good portion of the role that ARs fill (though missing the further end of mid-range), but I like using ARs more, and that blank spot on the right side of my Infiltrator's back is driving me mad. Any tips on how to edit my save game to allow this would be greatly appreciated. WHAT WORKS in editing Coalesced.ini here! Edited Coalesced Edited March 30, 2010 by Bos_hybrid
deganawida Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 New question: Does anyone know how to edit the loadout for characters? I have beaten the game with a Soldier and Vanguard, and want to do an Infiltrator, but I want an Assault Rifle from Freedom's Progress on. I know I can unlock it in the Collector's Ship , but the Widow is just too, too sexy (I actually prefer it on my Soldier to the Revenant). I also know that SMGs fill a good portion of the role that ARs fill (though missing the further end of mid-range), but I like using ARs more, and that blank spot on the right side of my Infiltrator's back is driving me mad. Any tips on how to edit my save game to allow this would be greatly appreciated. WHAT WORKS in editing Coalesced.ini here! Edited Coalesced Thanks! That's just what I needed!
Morgoth Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I just finished the Firewalker missions and I thought they were pretty fun. Firewalker > Mako. I'm just playing my thirds time through the game with an Adept. Singularity is totally pointless since it always hits an obstacle, never the target. I'm holding back for the new $DLC that comes out April 6th before I travel through the Omega 4 relay. Rain makes everything better.
Amentep Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I just finished the Firewalker missions and I thought they were pretty fun. Firewalker > Mako. I'm just playing my thirds time through the game with an Adept. Singularity is totally pointless since it always hits an obstacle, never the target. I'm holding back for the new $DLC that comes out April 6th before I travel through the Omega 4 relay. My second go through was with an adept and I never had a problem with the powers given that they will go around obstacles if you give enough clearance (and the target doesn't move and change the angle). I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Morgoth Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Well, that's the problem, a clear path. Those buggers always hide behind blocks. Warp and Pull seem to work better.... Rain makes everything better.
Amentep Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I dunno I just always aimed above or to the left or right and it never seemed to be a problem. I wasn't playing on the higher difficulties though - maybe that changes how far the powers move? I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Deraldin Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I dunno I just always aimed above or to the left or right and it never seemed to be a problem. I wasn't playing on the higher difficulties though - maybe that changes how far the powers move? I found that occasionally powers would just refuse to curve for whatever reason. Never figured out what caused it, but it didn't happen enough to make it worth caring about.
Amentep Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I dunno I just always aimed above or to the left or right and it never seemed to be a problem. I wasn't playing on the higher difficulties though - maybe that changes how far the powers move? I found that occasionally powers would just refuse to curve for whatever reason. Never figured out what caused it, but it didn't happen enough to make it worth caring about. Well I've seen them not curve if the target moved out of target range or if I didn't make sure they had the target bracket before singularitying them(although that occasionally led to fun anyhow). I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
jaguars4ever Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 OMG. I've just gotten the Geth Pulse Rifle by completing the recruit Tali quest on Hardcore. Utterly brutal. That damned gun better be worth it! I'm proud of you Di. I have seen the sun rise on the sandy beaches of Hawaii. I have seen the sun set on the coasts of Honshu. But neither dusk nor dawn compares the sumptuous beauty of the Geth Pulse Rifle. Nb - make sure you use it with maxed out inferno ammo, and you'll never have to ammo switch again.
HoonDing Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 "Using Geth technology?!" Tali disapproves (-50) Legion approves (+10) The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
mr insomniac Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 OMG. I've just gotten the Geth Pulse Rifle by completing the recruit Tali quest on Hardcore. Utterly brutal. That damned gun better be worth it! I'm proud of you Di. I have seen the sun rise on the sandy beaches of Hawaii. I have seen the sun set on the coasts of Honshu. But neither dusk nor dawn compares the sumptuous beauty of the Geth Pulse Rifle. Nb - make sure you use it with maxed out inferno ammo, and you'll never have to ammo switch again. +1 And the really cool thing is it's not a Shepard exclusive weapon, so any squaddie who can use an assault rifle can use the GPR. I took this job because I thought you were just a legend. Just a story. A story to scare little kids. But you're the real deal. The demon who dares to challenge God. So what the hell do you want? Don't seem to me like you're out to make this stinkin' world a better place. Why you gotta kill all my men? Why you gotta kill me? Nothing personal. It's just revenge.
Gromnir Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 OMG. I've just gotten the Geth Pulse Rifle by completing the recruit Tali quest on Hardcore. Utterly brutal. That damned gun better be worth it! I'm proud of you Di. I have seen the sun rise on the sandy beaches of Hawaii. I have seen the sun set on the coasts of Honshu. But neither dusk nor dawn compares the sumptuous beauty of the Geth Pulse Rifle. Nb - make sure you use it with maxed out inferno ammo, and you'll never have to ammo switch again. there is a problem with the geth rifle... if you has been using the vindicator. sure, the geth has loads o' ammo, but it does far less damage per shot; it takes longer to kill stuff using the geth rifle. after +10 hours using the vindicator, you gets comfortable with seeing foes die quickly. when you first switch to the geth rifle, it seems as if your soldier has sudden become teh suk 'cause you is emptying clips into foes, but they just ain't dying like they should. am not minding switching ammo. we will happily switch disruptor, warp and cold during the course o' a single battle... 'cause as a soldier we got no powhaz save for ammo and adrenaline burst anyways. what we does mind is seeing a paltry pack o' varen shrugging off our geth pulse shots like water falling from a duck's back. when Gromnir shoots stuff with the vindicator, it dies. we not get the same warm fuzzy feeling o' certain ownage when using the geth pulse. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
cronicler Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Someone had asked this a few pages back, Mordin is a bit bugged so even if you do everything right, he might die in the last fight. As far as I know the only thing that stops this bug is sending him as escort with the crew. IG. We kick ass and not even take names.
Maria Caliban Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 From what I've heard, Moridin is not bugged. The issue is that Moridin is a whimp and if you have him try to 'hold the line' he needs to have a loyal 'heavies' (Garrus, Grunt, or Zaaed) with him when he does so. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
Nepenthe Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 From what I've heard, Moridin is not bugged. The issue is that Moridin is a whimp and if you have him try to 'hold the line' he needs to have a loyal 'heavies' (Garrus, Grunt, or Zaaed) with him when he does so. This. It's working as planned. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Deraldin Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 From what I've heard, Moridin is not bugged. The issue is that Moridin is a whimp and if you have him try to 'hold the line' he needs to have a loyal 'heavies' (Garrus, Grunt, or Zaaed) with him when he does so. This. It's working as planned. Original Topic on the Bioboards about this subject: Suicide Mission Guide. Also; Hold the Line-Deaths Explained (Mordin's, Tali's, etc)
Azure79 Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I just send Mordin back with the crew. He seems like the best choice for it. Doctor and former spy, inflitrator, knows how to get things done unobtrusively, which I guess includes sneaking. My current playthrough is with an adept, so I'll be taking Miranda and Thane for their warp ability to the front line. I guess my hold the line team is safe.
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