Gfted1 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I think only Quebec is hardcore French, even going so far as to make French the official language for business and street signs. Also, every once in a while they try to break free of Canada and become their own country which is always good for a few lulz. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 However, the writing has always been typically crap. Compared to? When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) Not England-lite? They speak French(among other languages) there and eat croissants, no? I thought the entire country is bilingual. Like Belgium, with the difference that it actually works. Edited June 11, 2009 by virumor The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 However, the writing has always been typically crap. Compared to? When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead. I'm not sure about "most" companies, but their writing isn't all bad. Just a bigger percent of it than we'd like to. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 However, the writing has always been typically crap. Compared to? When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead. Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 "Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 And, if I am ignorant about someone he's not that good or important. Sorry. Your own ignorance doesn't say anything about someone else's quality or importance. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 However, the writing has always been typically crap. Compared to? When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead. Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The Longest Journey was awesome, don't diss the R-man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) It's perhaps for the best that Bethesda's writing is horrible, otherwise BioWare might have been put out of business long ago. That said, Michael Kirkbride was a good Bethesda writer. He cooked up a large amount of lore and wrote a lot of in-game books. Same goes for Julian LeFay, who practically invented the Elder Scrolls. EDIT: And indeed, TLJ was great. It's practically the Planescape: Torment of adventure games. Edited June 11, 2009 by virumor The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 However, the writing has always been typically crap. Compared to? When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead. Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Well, yeah, of course it's nothing but an opinion. Wasn't that what you were asking for when you replied "compared to"? I thought you were comparing games to movies and books. Not other games. As for JRPGs, I sure as hell have enjoyed a few, but it was never, ever for the writing. Of course, dodgy translations may be to blame for that. I loved the Zelda games. Haven't played on since Ocarina of time though. The Longest Journey was awesome, don't diss the R-man! I stand corrected...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Zelda is hardly a RPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Well, yeah, of course it's nothing but an opinion. Wasn't that what you were asking for when you replied "compared to"? I thought you were comparing games to movies and books. Not other games. As for JRPGs, I sure as hell have enjoyed a few, but it was never, ever for the writing. Of course, dodgy translations may be to blame for that. I loved the Zelda games. Haven't played on since Ocarina of time though. The Longest Journey was awesome, don't diss the R-man! I stand corrected...... Well, personally, I feel that comparing the vast majority of game writing to well written books and films isn't even worth doing at this point. The art of writing for games is just still too undeveloped, I guess. Zelda games are generally awesome and all but they are not RPGs. Besides, the writing in the Zelda games was just a very basic background to get the gameplay going. The writing in those games was just functional, and best if ignored. Finally, regarding The Longest Journey, I don't think it was a particularly good game, in the sense that its core gameplay mechanics just weren't very good. What I think The Longest Journey did well was the writing, as its character development was comparatively rich and engaging and its plot development did a very good job of keeping the player engaged. I think TLJ is one of only a handful of games where the writing managed to make its characters feel like real people and not just a collection of standard archetypes. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Finally, regarding The Longest Journey, I don't think it was a particularly good game, in the sense that its core gameplay mechanics just weren't very good. What do you mean? You don't like point & click? Anyway, as highly regarded as TLJ is, Broken Sword 1 > TLJ in every aspect. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Bioware's writing is frequently pretty good, just not that original. But it's usually at least functional, most of Mass Effect excluded. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Writing alone doesn't really do much for me these days anymore. It's the whole acting, the whole performance of a NPC that counts. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Yes, you can't judge video game writing in isolation, it's not like a book. To me you need good quest design to support good writing, otherwise it's kind of pointless. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junai Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 The blood doesn't bother me as much as the bloody slow loading.. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I tend to take this guy seriously since he's a big KOTOR fan. :lol: "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 As for JRPGs, I sure as hell have enjoyed a few, but it was never, ever for the writing. Of course, dodgy translations may be to blame for that. You can bet your ass that most of the blame is on the bad translations... Not saying that's the case for all JRPGs... It's same like other games, some have **** story some have excellent story, but most of them are just rippoffs of classic books Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 examples? just so I can track down the books myself to read. Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 every book where are rebels fighting against big unknown dark evil Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Somebody should make a crpg where you get to the play the unknown dark evil instead of a dweeby hero type. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Somebody should make a crpg where you get to the play the unknown dark evil instead of a dweeby hero type. MotB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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