Ukraine Conflict - Das Himmelfahrtskommando

[Lexx]

Smart. I wonder if this will work out.

[Chilloutman]

would it mean we would be buying barrel of oil for barrel of rubles?

[Malcador]

8 hours ago, BruceVC said:

I dont know, I really respect people who are prepared to leave the safety and comfort of a first world country and travel to another country to fight tyranny and warmongering of someone like Putin. He is prepared to die for this cause. We can admire that a little 

Not really, he almost seems like the stereotype of a soldier that likes killing. Did like his quote that he won't be "treated like a conscript", heh

Useful and all, but I am not going to care all that much if he dies.

[Elerond]

16 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Smart. I wonder if this will work out.

For short term it may help prevent ruble from crashing, but it means that Russia loses it main source of foreign currency, which would mean that their economy has higher risk to crash if they in any point lose their energy export. 

It also increase volatility of their foreign trade as they have less foreign currency to use in case ruble's value drops in some point.

[Chilloutman]

Anatoly Chubais left his post as Special Envoy of the President of Russian Federation for Relations with International Organizations and left Russia and no-one saw Shojgu for like 2 weeks. Maybe cards are starting to fall?

Edited March 23, 2022 by Chilloutman

[Darkpriest]

I wonder if people will be crying that these bio males are mistreated or that the martial law should be extended to cover also young, childless women to stay and support war effort. (in the spirit of equal rights) 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-blocks-trans-women-refugees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

 

[Hurlshort]

18 minutes ago, Darkpriest said:

I wonder if people will be crying that these bio males are mistreated or that the martial law should be extended to cover also young, childless women to stay and support war effort. (in the spirit of equal rights) 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-blocks-trans-women-refugees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

 

I don't understand why it doesn't cover childless women. I mean, if it is an all hands on deck emergency, why is it just the men? My wife is a better shot than I am.

If it is about families, why aren't single dads exempt? 

[Mamoulian War]

Another big blow to Russian "special operations"

Allegedly their biggest tank manufacturer, who is also a biggest tank manufacturer in the world, has become victim of western "special economic operations" and had to stop manufacturing tanks, due to lack of tech parts required to build them.

https://defence--ua-com.translate.goog/news/jedinij_u_rf_virobnik_tankiv_uralvagonzavod_zupiniv_robotu_cherez_brak_komplektujuchih-6556.html?fbclid=IwAR09GfZH-VnHWXiTGEgQQaDHXhxAseotNG46Tg8NrZpZvRY14Gtlfwwdw7s&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Azdeus]

7 hours ago, Darkpriest said:

I wonder if people will be crying that these bio males are mistreated or that the martial law should be extended to cover also young, childless women to stay and support war effort. (in the spirit of equal rights) 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-blocks-trans-women-refugees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

It's not really the time to go and full on criticize at the moment, since they're at war and the law is in place. It'll come though.

7 hours ago, Hurlsnot said:

I don't understand why it doesn't cover childless women. I mean, if it is an all hands on deck emergency, why is it just the men? My wife is a better shot than I am.

If it is about families, why aren't single dads exempt? 

If you're a Swedish citizen, or if you are a resident in Sweden ( @Pidesco In case you don't know this ), between 16 and 70, it's your duty to take part of our total defence if war comes. Conscription for Swedish citizens 18-48. Not matter your gender identity.

[xzar_monty]

4 hours ago, Azdeus said:

If you're a Swedish citizen, or if you are a resident in Sweden ( @Pidesco In case you don't know this ), between 16 and 70, it's your duty to take part of our total defence if war comes. Conscription for Swedish citizens 18-48. Not matter your gender identity.

This is a rather abrupt change from Sweden's very recent military policy, which essentially didn't exist. Good for Sweden, though.

A Swedish friend of mine pointed out that Sweden has been extraordinarily naive in military (and some other) matters. At least part of it is probably due to the fact that for Sweden, WW2 was not a war but a business opportunity: no fighting, but an awful lot of iron sold to the nazis for extremely good money. This helped create a culture of complacency.

[Gorth]

Sweden is probably still expecting Denmark to invade them some day, for a repeat of the Stockholm Bloodbath. Denmark has conscription too (at least they had when I was a young Dane). I got picked for civil defense duty, not the military. Most likely enemy we were going to face were East German and Polish armies.

 

As for the current war, not sure there is a lot to negotiate about at the moment, as I doubt Putin himself knows what he wants... since he obviously can't have what he originally wanted and doesn't seem to have a plan b

 

[pmp10]

16 hours ago, Hurlsnot said:

why is it just the men?

Reproductive replaceability. 

1 hour ago, Gorth said:

As for the current war, not sure there is a lot to negotiate about at the moment, as I doubt Putin himself knows what he wants... since he obviously can't have what he originally wanted and doesn't seem to have a plan b

Pretty sure we are at plan C by now but that doesn't mean he has no objectives.
Even if Ukraine cannot be subjugated on this occasion there is always the long run. 

Take Chechnia for example.
They have won their first war with Russia and it still did them little good in the end.

[Darkpriest]

As for Russian economic isolation

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/16/nation/no-its-not-world-against-russia-fact-its-far-it-why-lot-nations-arent-board-with-economic-sanctions/

[Azdeus]

6 hours ago, xzar_monty said:

This is a rather abrupt change from Sweden's very recent military policy, which essentially didn't exist. Good for Sweden, though.

A Swedish friend of mine pointed out that Sweden has been extraordinarily naive in military (and some other) matters. At least part of it is probably due to the fact that for Sweden, WW2 was not a war but a business opportunity: no fighting, but an awful lot of iron sold to the nazis for extremely good money. This helped create a culture of complacency.

The Swedish total defence has been that way since 1995. We stopped mandatory conscription in 2008 and replaced it with volounteer military training instead, but you still have to fill in some forms on your 18th birthday so that they can call on you for total defence.

I don't disagree about your friends assessment, the reason being that our politicians are monumentally retarded.

[xzar_monty]

1 hour ago, Azdeus said:

I don't disagree about your friends assessment, the reason being that our politicians are monumentally retarded.

But given the state of democracy in Sweden, the blame does not lie entirely on the politicians. After all, all of them were voted in, and the elections were fair.

I am not trying to be clever or cruel, by the way.

[Lexx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEqYRH-_n0

This "unsinkable" ship just got destroyed. Very likely thanks to this video, which is showing exactly where that ship is sitting and what they are doing.

Hilarious how incompetent every single branch of the russian side is.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Lexx

[Darkpriest]

11 minutes ago, Lexx said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEqYRH-_n0

This "unsinkable" ship just got destroyed. Very likely thanks to this video, which is showing exactly where that ship is sitting and what they are doing.

Hilarious how incompetent every single branch of the russian side is.

This event? 

 

[Lexx]

Yeah. The other ships seems to be damaged as well.

[Malcador]

 

 

[xzar_monty]

52 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Hilarious how incompetent every single branch of the russian side is.

I am not going to go that far, but you might enjoy this: the Russian patriarch Kirill created quite a furore after he was seen wearing an extremely expensive luxury watch. So, the watch was airbrushed out of the photo... but its reflection on the table was not. Like, how amateurish can you get in your attempt to cheat?

More here, including both photos: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/world/europe/in-russia-a-watch-vanishes-up-orthodox-leaders-sleeve.html

[Lexx]

Yeah, I remember this. Fun times.

[kanisatha]

23 hours ago, Chilloutman said:

Anatoly Chubais left his post as Special Envoy of the President of Russian Federation for Relations with International Organizations and left Russia and no-one saw Shojgu for like 2 weeks. Maybe cards are starting to fall?

There are also credible reports the head of the FSB is under arrest and other top FSB personnel are in hiding and/or attempting to get out of the country.

[kanisatha]

21 hours ago, Hurlsnot said:

I don't understand why it doesn't cover childless women. I mean, if it is an all hands on deck emergency, why is it just the men? My wife is a better shot than I am.

If it is about families, why aren't single dads exempt? 

Completely agree about women. If it's equality, then it ought to be true equality, not "equality" where you get to serve in all military positions but get lower physical and other standards to satisfy and don't have to sign up for Selective Service. Keeping my fingers crossed that the Supreme Court will agree.

[kanisatha]

1 hour ago, Lexx said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEqYRH-_n0

This "unsinkable" ship just got destroyed. Very likely thanks to this video, which is showing exactly where that ship is sitting and what they are doing.

Hilarious how incompetent every single branch of the russian side is.

Hilarious for sure, but also very concerning, because it makes Putin more and more dangerous as he could lash out even more out of his desperation. The massive Russian casualty numbers just cannot be hidden or denied anymore. At least 15,000 dead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/24/putins-invasion-of-ukraine-is-his-biggest-mistake-and-weakens-russia.html

[Darkpriest]

Something for more tactics focused ppl. 

And some citizens militia or as they call it in UA, territorial defense units (as you can see by behavior ) 

 

Edited March 24, 2022 by Darkpriest