Mamoulian War 1,967 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Gfted1 said: I kinda hit a wall wrt "mechanics". Is it Grim Dawn with the crazy ability tree? Gave up. Also every 4x game seems to overload me with choices. EDIT: Whats the game where the ability trees are like a zodiac? EDIT 2: Ok, maybe "zodiac" is a bad description. There are ~6 (7,8 ?) ability trees you can invest in and, iirc, they are shaped like animals? 6 hours ago, Hurlshot said: Skyrim? 5 hours ago, the_dog_days said: Path of Exile. Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age? Quote Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Shadowrun Hong Kong Extended Edition (in progress) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 22 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours Link to post Share on other sites
Katphood 2,101 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 You are all wrong. See! Quote Katphood on PSN, Steam & Xbox Live Link to post Share on other sites
Gfted1 5,930 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 hours ago, the_dog_days said: Path of Exile. Eureka! Thats it! Was bothering me that I couldnt remember. Quote "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Chilloutman said: for me its all about depth of mechanics. I just like more chess than checkers Then you will just Google for the ideal spec. Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
Rosbjerg 3,048 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) When designing a game, if you try to make your game 'fun' rather than 'engaging', you will often sacrifice meaning for accessibility. The equivalent of industrial fast food - all about the immediate experience over substance. It's why there's no such thing as 'real time strategy', as Gorth said - why MMOs are meaningless dopamine activators and why sequels are usually more popular, but ultimately fail to live up to the potential of the original idea -> ultimately destroying the franchise, as the series develops... Edited February 13, 2020 by Rosbjerg Quote Fortune favors the bald. Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is. Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
Melusina 220 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Owlcats devs will shoehorn themselves into another buggy launch with their new Pathfinder game. 1 Quote https://store.steampowered.com/curator/33102093/ - Picky Gamer Girl! Link to post Share on other sites
Skazz 1,936 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Malcador said: Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is. Command & Conquer: Red Alert Bonus round: Command & Conquer: Red Alert II Edited February 13, 2020 by Skazz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Skazz said: Command & Conquer: Red Alert Bonus round: Command & Conquer: Red Alert II Hah, but second time someone has mentioned there not being any such thing as 'real time strategy' game. So am not sure what would make one so, not as if current RTS games are pure tactics games. Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
Mamoulian War 1,967 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Malcador said: Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is. Dune II 2 Quote Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Shadowrun Hong Kong Extended Edition (in progress) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 22 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours Link to post Share on other sites
KaineParker 6,177 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, Malcador said: Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is. Divorce Court 2: Child Custody 1 3 Quote "I am the expert, asshat." - Hurlshot "I'm fine with humanity being wiped out" - majestic "I won't say what just in case KaineParker is reading" - Bartimaeus "Oh no! Is there super secret ending as well? I don’t care." - Wormerine Link to post Share on other sites
Melusina 220 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, KaineParker said: Divorce Court 2: Child Custody tru dat! Quote https://store.steampowered.com/curator/33102093/ - Picky Gamer Girl! Link to post Share on other sites
Skazz 1,936 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, KaineParker said: Divorce Court 2: Child Custody 17 minutes ago, Melusina said: tru dat! *tru dad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Skazz said: *tru dad That's the Maury DLC. 2 Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
Katphood 2,101 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Heroes of Annihilated Empires isn't a good RTS game, one could even argue that it is broken but you know what...I like it! Quote Katphood on PSN, Steam & Xbox Live Link to post Share on other sites
daven 823 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Demon's Souls is the best of the Souls games. But I suppose if someone thinks DS2 is the best that would be more unpopular. Most Mario games are pretty bland and uninteresting. WOTLK is the best WoW expansion. Grand Theft Auto is a boring series. Edited February 21, 2020 by daven Quote nowt Link to post Share on other sites
Mamoulian War 1,967 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, daven said: Demon's Souls is the best of the Souls games. But I suppose if someone thinks DS2 is the best that would be more unpopular. Most Mario games are pretty bland and uninteresting. WOTLK is the best WoW expansion. Grand Theft Auto is a boring series. I don't know why, but that WotLK statement is just rubbing me very wrong way Actually I know why. They butchered Naxxramas compared to the vanilla original so much, that our semi casual guild cleared it in 2 days I've never recovered from that disapointment and quit WoW for good Edited February 21, 2020 by Mamoulian War 1 Quote Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Shadowrun Hong Kong Extended Edition (in progress) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 22 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours Link to post Share on other sites
Skazz 1,936 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim is the best game ever created. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skarpen 663 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Skazz said: Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim is the best game ever created. How's that unpopular? Majesty is great. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 2:43 PM, daven said: WOTLK is the best WoW expansion. Seems to be a pretty popular opinion, would be otherwise if you said Pandaria (that was a fun expansion, though). TBC was the best for me, even if the world was so, so ugly. Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
daven 823 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Malcador said: Seems to be a pretty popular opinion, would be otherwise if you said Pandaria (that was a fun expansion, though). TBC was the best for me, even if the world was so, so ugly. Is it? I remember when it came out everyone said it had ruined the game TBC is the best blah blah blah. Wait that might be every expansion to the game tons of people said that crap. Quote nowt Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Well, now people do. I guess the WoTLK babies are now "veterans" so it's their turn to grouse about how great things were (and probably expound about the glories of classic and a vanilla they never were in :P ) 1 Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
majestic 2,268 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 WoTLK was pretty much the best WoW expansion. Class balance (except for the Death Knight at launch) was not as terrible as it was earlier or as bad as it went on to be in later expansions and the game systems were streamlined just enough to have a nice balance between complexity and accessibility. They also removed most of the ridiculousness of the raid roster requirements of Classic and TBC without killing the differences between classes, an issue that seemed to seep into the game with the bring the player not the class approach, something that worked so well in Cataclysm that raid guilds dumped Shamans completely and guilds class stacked worse than ever before. The biggest offender probably being the world first Nefarian kill in Black Wing Descent - half of the raid being made up by druids (and that's literally, Paragon had 12 druids on the kill). That the expansion's got a reputation of being easy is also down to the launch and funnily enough to realizing how easy Classic was when you wouldn't spend most of the game time fighting the game (that includes the logistics of raids being made up of 40 people) instead of the bosses. Blizzard thought they'd give fans Naxx back after it was relevant content only for such a small amount of time and tarnished the reputation of the expansion forever. Oh, on that note, even if you have to fight the game* AND the bosses the raids are demonstrably only a... shadow of veteran memories. BWL classic was clear 42 minutes after it went live. It made for a fun Cataclysm launch though. The same people who wanted a more difficult end game got what they wanted and then didn't stop complaining about it. Heh. *Well with certain differences, what with the game going live with the patch state of 1.12 - MC in particular was a lot easier in Classic because by 1.12 Blizzard fixed some of the more ridiculous talent trees and class problems. But that's minutiae, by far and large. There, I said my piece. Call me a Wrath Baby if you like. I don't give a rat's arse to be honest. 1 Quote We all have signed the pacts, we knew so well nothing was left We are being born at the sound of ends, and yes we still believe in beauty It used to be the pride of Man, now a flame put out by the cold in his hand Link to post Share on other sites
Hurlshot 8,163 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 majestic is a Wrath Baby. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,344 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, majestic said: hat the expansion's got a reputation of being easy is also down to the launch and funnily enough to realizing how easy Classic was Yep, was fun to troll Classic people pretending the game required anything more than time and endurance rather than any skill. I miss vanilla for the way the world was, but that can never be done by an expansion due to the fact it would be an expansion. I never really raided that much, so class balance and stuff I am not aware of. Not trying to say WoTLK was bad or anything, I liked TBC better by not by much. 1 1 Quote Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
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