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10 hours ago, Gfted1 said:

I kinda hit a wall wrt "mechanics". Is it Grim Dawn with the crazy ability tree? Gave up. Also every 4x game seems to overload me with choices. :( 

 

EDIT: Whats the game where the ability trees are like a zodiac?

EDIT 2: Ok, maybe "zodiac" is a bad description. There are ~6 (7,8 ?) ability trees you can invest in and, iirc, they are shaped like animals?

 

6 hours ago, Hurlshot said:

Skyrim?

 

5 hours ago, the_dog_days said:

 

Path of Exile.

 
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age? 😛

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18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

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14 hours ago, Chilloutman said:

for me its all about depth of mechanics. I just like more chess than checkers

Then you will just Google for the ideal spec.  😛

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When designing a game, if you try to make your game 'fun' rather than 'engaging', you will often sacrifice meaning for accessibility. The equivalent of industrial fast food - all about the immediate experience over substance.

It's why there's no such thing as 'real time strategy', as Gorth said - why MMOs are meaningless dopamine activators and why sequels are usually more popular, but ultimately fail to live up to the potential of the original idea -> ultimately destroying the franchise, as the series develops...

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Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is.

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18 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is.

Command & Conquer: Red Alert

Bonus round: Command & Conquer: Red Alert II

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31 minutes ago, Skazz said:

Command & Conquer: Red Alert

Bonus round: Command & Conquer: Red Alert II

Hah, but second time someone has mentioned there not being any such thing as 'real time strategy' game.  So am not sure what would make one so, not as if current RTS games are pure tactics games.

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46 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is.

Dune II 😛

 

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2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

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59 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Wonder what you people would think a proper RTS is.

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13 minutes ago, Skazz said:

*tru dad

 

That's the Maury DLC.

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Demon's Souls is the best of the Souls games. But I suppose if someone thinks DS2 is the best that would be more unpopular.

Most Mario games are pretty bland and uninteresting. 

WOTLK is the best WoW expansion.

Grand Theft Auto is a boring series.

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1 hour ago, daven said:

Demon's Souls is the best of the Souls games. But I suppose if someone thinks DS2 is the best that would be more unpopular.

Most Mario games are pretty bland and uninteresting. 

WOTLK is the best WoW expansion.

Grand Theft Auto is a boring series.

I don't know why, but that WotLK statement is just rubbing me very wrong way 😕

Actually I know why. They butchered Naxxramas compared to the vanilla original so much, that our semi casual guild cleared it in 2 days 😢

I've never recovered from that disapointment and quit WoW for good 😞

 

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1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

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On 2/21/2020 at 2:43 PM, daven said:

WOTLK is the best WoW expansion.

Seems to be a pretty popular opinion, would be otherwise if you said Pandaria (that was a fun expansion, though).  TBC was the best for me, even if the world was so, so ugly.

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3 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Seems to be a pretty popular opinion, would be otherwise if you said Pandaria (that was a fun expansion, though).  TBC was the best for me, even if the world was so, so ugly.

Is it? I remember when it came out everyone said it had ruined the game TBC is the best blah blah blah. Wait that might be every expansion to the game tons of people said that crap.

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Well, now people do.  I guess the WoTLK babies are now "veterans" so it's their turn to grouse about how great things were (and probably expound about the glories of classic and a vanilla they never were in  :P )

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WoTLK was pretty much the best WoW expansion. Class balance (except for the Death Knight at launch) was not as terrible as it was earlier or as bad as it went on to be in later expansions and the game systems were streamlined just enough to have a nice balance between complexity and accessibility. They also removed most of the ridiculousness of the raid roster requirements of Classic and TBC without killing the differences between classes, an issue that seemed to seep into the game with the bring the player not the class approach, something that worked so well in Cataclysm that raid guilds dumped Shamans completely and guilds class stacked worse than ever before. The biggest offender probably being the world first Nefarian kill in Black Wing Descent - half of the raid being made up by druids (and that's literally, Paragon had 12 druids on the kill).

That the expansion's got a reputation of being easy is also down to the launch and funnily enough to realizing how easy Classic was when you wouldn't spend most of the game time fighting the game (that includes the logistics of raids being made up of 40 people) instead of the bosses. Blizzard thought they'd give fans Naxx back after it was relevant content only for such a small amount of time and tarnished the reputation of the expansion forever.

Oh, on that note, even if you have to fight the game* AND the bosses the raids are demonstrably only a... shadow of veteran memories. BWL classic was clear 42 minutes after it went live.

It made for a fun Cataclysm launch though. The same people who wanted a more difficult end game got what they wanted and then didn't stop complaining about it. Heh.

*Well with certain differences, what with the game going live with the patch state of 1.12 - MC in particular was a lot easier in Classic because by 1.12 Blizzard fixed some of the more ridiculous talent trees and class problems. But that's minutiae, by far and large.

There,  I said my piece. Call me a Wrath Baby if you like. I don't give a rat's arse to be honest. :p

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15 hours ago, majestic said:

hat the expansion's got a reputation of being easy is also down to the launch and funnily enough to realizing how easy Classic was

Yep, was fun to troll Classic people pretending the game required anything more than time and endurance rather than any skill.  I miss vanilla for the way the world was, but that can never be done by an expansion due to the fact it would be an expansion.   I never really raided that much, so class balance and stuff I am not aware of.  Not trying to say WoTLK was bad or anything, I liked TBC better by not by much. 

 

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