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Doubt it, going against genetics is hard, but hey I'm not immortal so I can't really say to the contrary. And that is ok, but don't expect companies to hurt their profits and pander to the minorities, don't expect people to write roles they have no interest in or know nothing about and most of all don't force your social justice on anyone.

Just so you know I will not let go of those 2400 convicted Croats. That was a pretty big lie on your part. As for the evidence it has been submitted the trial is still ongoing. By the words of your own former Minister who was in office during the war, Tudjman was the one to instigate armed conflict. How is that BS? Do you think that YNA was fighting unarmed civilians? It was an all out battle in Vukovar. You make it out to seem like YNA came and attacked civilians which is nothing further from the truth. The Croats were armed and ready for a conflict, the Serbs weren't, thus YNA came and protected them. Only the Ukrainians weren't burning hundreds of Crimean villages and killing the Russian population indiscriminately. Want proof? Watch the movie I linked to Bruce. There are video records of those villages in it.

I do think it correlates. To have a gay main character in a game, you have to identify him as such, in good games a character identifies him self through actions and dialog. By doing that you lose your connection to the player(if they are straight). Games are wish fulfillment devices and as such (with a gay main character) will fail their purpose with anyone but the gay players. Volourn's examples are stupid and a bait which I took. He compares apples and oranges, or sexual orientation with physical appearances and real with the fantasy. It's wish fulfillment, everyone (almost everyone) want's to be immortal, no one wants to be gay. It's as simple as that.

So by your example, because I don't watch gay porn and it doesn't excite me, I hate gays? edit: To expand, both are a type of media, one is used for sexual stimulation, the other is used for "intellectual" stimulation. By your logic if the media fails to fulfill it's purpose because of your reactions to the characters within, then, by your logic, we must hate those characters and what they represent.

Because the majority of the player base is not gay and thus they could not see them selves in the protagonist, thus I say alienated. Making games is all about hitting numbers, especially in the non RPG genre, it's all about identifying with the majority of your audience. But if you are fishing for my personal opinion on the gays, then sure I'll tell you that too. I am of an opinion that everyone should live and let live, I am also of an opinion that being gay is not natural and that it goes against the genetic prime directive of mankind, to survive ie. reproduce. If you look at it from a biological standpoint, they are parasites (I am up for a discussion on this topic too, but I think that it would be more suited for the off-topic part of the forum). Now this is not meant to be an insult and I believe that they have rights equal to that of any other person (though I am undecided on the topic of adoption), but this is the opinion I stand by and am willing to discuss.

In games where the protagonist is a blank slate, making him fully customizable is not difficult. But in a game in which the main character has an identity and the story is set, it's much more difficult. So is it worth it to have a worse game, just to be able pander to people of all colors and minorities. Not to mention that having the main character be gay would probably alienate the majority of the player base.

-still no link for those 2400 (even though you copy/pasted the entire wiki below) -Operation Storm would tell me that it was a planed operation. The exodus of 200 000 people and the death of over 1000 during Operation Storm, would tell me that those 2 are connected. So planned ethnic cleansing. ******************************************************************** Woah there, take it easy with the copy/paste, you wouldn't want to hurt your fingers. By the admition of your own former minister Josip Boljkovac(during the war), Tudjman was the one who instigated the armed conflicts(you ignored this the first time I said it). So in fact all that you quoted from wiki shows what happened, but with key pieces of information cut out. If you bothered to read the source articles, you would see that the picture is not as one sided as you paint it. Let's not even get started with the legality of the voting that happened before the war.

Aren't those just screen captures from the trailer?

I think it's all black and white in his head. He must think that it's either Russia is bad or Russia is good. In fact I think many people in this thread have that problem.

I think people feel the need to fight for/against something, because it makes them feel like they are doing something that matters, but the problem is that the only thing they are able to do is try and enact change in the pathetically insignificant problems that in the grand ****-hole of things that are wrong in this world, don't even matter. I mean they are not Bill Gates who is trying to exterminate malaria, so they settle for making minorities not feel left out when playing games. Which is not a bad thing, but it irks me to no end when they make it out to be a grand crusade that will save the world.

The point I don't seem to get is that if video-game violence doesn't have an effect on the the player, how is anything that he is "fighting" for going to affect him. I get that everyone has their own battle to fight, but how about you focus on the big stuff instead of making people like gays or w/e else. edit: Further more, you have to be able to portray those kind of characters without them sounding like stereotypes, a white man who doesn't have black/yellow/red/pink/magenta (I am a racist ****) friends or doesn't have contact with their culture isn't going to be able to portray them well. So this more about letting more people from different cultures in to the industry, for which he is definitely barking up the wrong tree.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/03/24/why-manveer-heirs-attack-on-stereotypes-in-games-was-the-most-important-moment-of-gdc-2014/

PoE is going more to the BG/IWD series gameplay wise, and more to the BG/PS:T story wise. That was the first thing they said.

Yep, plus this year the "All-Star" (anything but(another story)) is being held in Paris and the next championship is being held in Korea.

Imagine if they teamed up with EA(Bioware). The butthurt alone would have been worth it.

This can be said to many people in this thread.

-Maybe half of it. -They don't talk about it like you have seen it. -Yeah you said 2400, might as well said 4000. I can't find anything on those convicted Croats and you won't show any proof. So yes you are lying. I never claimed we convicted anyone, while you still claim 2400 Croats were convicted. -200 000 thousand Serbs exiled over 1000 dead, all during operation storm. You are confusing something. During that time the country was SFRY and YNA was doing was doing it's job of keeping stability in it's own country. If civilians start arming them self and harming others then of course the army is going to come and keep peace. You are making this out to seem as YNA was killing unarmed civilians, when they were in fact fighting the first Croatian and Muslim paramilitary troops. You are also confusing something else, I did not get my information from the media. I got my information from the people who fought in the war and the people who were exiled from their homes. So try and dismiss what I say all you want, it's not me who is making up ridiculous stories.

I disliked the new Anders immensely in DA2. Where in DA:A he was witty and on some occasions funny, in DA2 too I was all to happy to end him.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Season_3_World_Championship http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/19/5121688/league-of-legends-season-3-world-championship-finals-viewers

I'm not saying every granny was armed with a gun. But the people in RSK were - in general - armed to the teeth and very nationalistic and feverious. You weren't there so you wouldn't know, now would you? The exodus of the Serbs is no Ethnic cleansing. It does not fit the definition. there was no force employed from the CA, there was no grand plan. Rage as much as you want, but the world agrees with me. During this whole debate I provided 10 times more links than you. And the wiki link was a few pages back. I say again - the wiki and the world view agree with me. Indeed. That's because you haven't. You didn't address anything, and least of all his statement. Everyone except from you and your media pretty much agrees the JNA was in Croatia (including your president). And I sure as hell won't bother to prove known and factual stuff that you can easily look into yourself. -The whole world doesn't agree with you, only the loudest part of it does. -Are you claiming that you were there? -If you lied about those 4000 Croats being convicted what else did you lie about. -If you read the response where I translated the statement from Milosevic you quoted, you can see that I addressed it. Every "proof" you provided I answered. While your only answer for mine were that they are Serbian nationalist propaganda. Just ignore him, he is fishing for attention. He does this sort of thing all the time, he pops in a thread and goes "I can't believe you are still discussing this, you are so boring".

No, I'm pretty sure I was saying that a blank-slate protagonist can be the best vehicle for an RPG story, since 1) you're not being corralled into roleplaying a dev-created personality that you may not relate to, and 2) there are a billion different ways to tell a good story in a video game and most of those ways work best if the protagonist(s) that the player is controlling do not come already frontloaded with narrative baggage. This is the first thing you said that i definitely disagree with. PS:T, KotOR2, MotB all are better in the story department than BGs, IWDs, and ToEEs out there. While the dev-created character or not leaves me indifferent, as both ways can work (KOTOR2 was pre defined, PS:T was predefined but with the amnesia they allowed you to roleplay however you wanted, MOTB was Player created), point 2) i'm definitely against. Stories in video games work best when they come with "narrative baggage", and are more of an introspective journey. I dislike the blank slate protagonist and it harms the story quality. MotB sidesteps this problem by allowing a blank slate protagonist, but then frontloads you with narrative baggage(just not your own) and having find the history of your contition(the past just isn't your own) and i thing is a good compromise. I would like more games using this device. http://www.cracked.com/video_18662_the-horrifying-secret-the-matrix-reveals-about-humanity.html

Dota 2 doesn't have it beat on the venue or the prize pool. Not to mention the LCS, where the players have wages. I haven't played Dota2 so I can't say if it is better or not, but I do follow the esport scene and there Riot is the leader of the pack. Credit should be given where credit us due. Your phrasing, in the initial post, makes it seem that Dota 2 was the one which pushed moba in to the esport scene, when mostly it was doing follow up to Riot.

I think it's unfair to say that DotA 2 added to the scope of esport as far as moba is concerned. Riot started with LoL before Dota2 and is still on a much bigger scale, esport and player wise.

Pretty much everything the UK answered was already told in this thread and if you look you can find a counter response to every paragraph.

Thank you for the detailed answer. I'm very happy with the info you provided. That's pretty much what I hoped for from the classes.