Sarex

Thank you for the detailed answer. I'm very happy with the info you provided. That's pretty much what I hoped for from the classes.

All of Asia experienced a drop, India was hit the hardest. This started rolling before Crimea.

I'm saying that your claims are ridiculous, grannies holding guns and fighting? And I'm sure we had some zealots, but so did you, in every war you have zealots. But you want people to believe, that Serbs went and killed their own people to force them out of Croatia. It sure as hell ain't that either. It's obvious to anyone, that Operation Storm had everything to do with the ethnic cleansing of Serbs. The simple fact that you refuse to provide any link for that statement all this time shows that you lied about it or that you simply cannot find any information to corroborate it and so were lied to. Be aware that I asked for any link you could find, that includes wiki. I never claimed that we jailed anyone, while you claim 2400 Croats were convicted. Show proof! That kind of thing should be easy to find, if true. I addressed Milosevics statement. You showed no video evidence. I didn't deny Vukovar. YNA was not in Croatia after it declare independence, you showed no proof to indicate otherwise. Eloquent to say the least. edit: While searching for you "convicted" Croats found this article, http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/29/world/europe/netherlands-balkans-sentencing

The safest way I've seen delidding done, was with a vise, a block of wood and a hammer. Bare in mind that you should use a proper vise.

Hey, if it turns out like that, you won't find anyone happier then me. Go Paladins!

The primary role of Fighters in BG and IWD was damage, now it's tanking and taunting. Damage isn't their primary role. I never said they weren't going to do any damage, but compared to the Fighters in BG/IWD they simply don't fill the same role. That is why I said it's tricky to compare. Hey I'm pretty sure this isn't a thing they said. They said that rogues and rangers are the best damage dealers, that's all. Seconded, so hard... People don't seem to realize the nature of comparison: If you build a Rogue or Ranger, then any other character will do lower damage, relative to the amount of single-target damage potential the Ranger or Rogue will have. You could still build a Ranger that's like, as supporty and non-damagey of a Ranger as you can get, and a... I dunno, Paladin, who's as focused on damage as he can possibly be, and that Paladin is going to outdamage that Ranger. If you roll one of every single character, and build them to be as damagey as possible, your Ranger and Rogue are going to be at the top of the charts. Doesn't mean everyone else is at the bottom of the charts, or that they don't do any damage in regard to being capable of felling enemies. That's precisely it. Rangers and Rogues now fill the role of the BG/IWD Fighter. While Paladins may do the same damage as the fighter, that isn't saying much because the Fighter him self doesn't do the damage he did in BG/IWD. If we then translate that to "will the Paladin do the same amount of damage as the current damage dealing classes in PoE (Rogue/Ranger)" then the answer is no.

We talked about this indepth in other threads, this is the info we know so far. I never said it was 100% confirmed, but it was implied a couple of times by Sawyer when we talked about it. Fighters are tanks with taunt, Barbarians are AoE, and Paladins are buffers.

Tricky question to answer. The thing we don't know is were the other classes are damage wise. What we found out so far is that only rogues and ranges do any real damage. The fighters are tanks and I guess the Paladin is a support aura class. So yes while they may do the same damage as fighters, that again may not tell us much because so far as we know damage isn't the primary role of the fighter. That is the only thing I really dislike so far about the classes. I'm fine with rogues being spike damage dealers, but I would have liked for the fighters/barbarians/paladins to have a more consistent damage output, that is higher then rogues regular attacks.

Man the claims you make, armed grannies and zealots? Really?! Not always but damn near every time. You can't find anything either, can you? So much for those 2400 convicted Croats. Because you were Catholic and we were Orthodox. Show me were you read about that shield of Europe thing, or at least what country called you that? Wait..so did you just accept the fact that we were fighting the JNA? As in - there were JNA forces in Croatia? Are you changing your tune now? Earlier you were claiming that there was no JNA presence in Croatia and we were only fighting civilians the whole time Sorry to burst your bubble, but the JNA was there the whole time. In large numbers. And it didn't help them. At all. Are you slow? When did I say that YNA wasn't in the war, did you even read what I wrote all this time? YNA wasn't in Croatia, after it was recognized as being independent, but it was in Bosnia. So no I'm not changing anything, it's just your comprehension skills are not up to the task it seems. My claim still stands. So no, YNA and their zealot grannies were not in Croatia and no, Croatia didn't singlehandedly win the war, in fact it's contribution was only the ethnic cleansing that took place at the end of it. I see you have degenerated to pictures now. I fear you will be using crayons next.

Let the armor butt-hurt commence!

Are you even listening to your self? OK, so you dismissed two of the links with "credible" excuses, and when you couldn't find a fault with the third one, you dismiss it just because. Damn dude, you really are brainwashed.

Well ww2 era guns must be heavy armaments for the mighty Croatian Army. And here I was thinking, you are going to prove your claims by showing those videos. Occam's razor. I see you still avoid showing proof for your claims. I did try to find some source to corroborate your claim, couldn't find anything. A person would think that you would be all to happy to show proof for you claims, instead you think calling me lazy is gonna prove anything. What invasions? Shield of what. Are you serious? The only reasons for which they didn't attack you was because they had heavy losses from their conflict with us. If you count small raids from the Ottoman empire as a war, then sure be proud. Oh right you had a battle, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krbava_Field. Again do you really think you did anything during the war? If you count burning villages and chasing away civilians, then yes your mighty Croatian army sent us home crying. Be real, had not the West intervened you wouldn't have stood a snowballs chance in hell of doing anything, let alone defeating the YNA (Especially if the main and the largest force joined the war). The only reason the conflict started was because your country had guarantees from the west that if you started a war they would come.

If they did physical copies, yes. But they are still going to have to pay those fees + pay Paradox for its work. As far as I understood, they teamed up so Paradox would handle the marketing aspect of the game, not so much the distribution, which now days is simple to do, on account there being Steam, GoG and other clones.

They are going to take a cut from every copy sold which means less money for Obsidian, which means they need to sell more games. Unless they made a contract whit a fixed amount of money, which I doubt.

Damn, I really thought they were gonna self publish. Well this puts even more pressure on the game to succeed.

What goes around, comes around.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/20ppjx/simcity_update_10_coming_out_today_including/

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/03/18/a-new-rollercoaster-tycoon-pc-game-is-in-production-say-atari/ YAY

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26630062

That doesn't matter when you are fighting poorly armed civilians. The biggest support of the west was the deterrent to Serbia to use any real force. I guess you were. Like you were imagining those videos of our generals telling lies and other things you mention. That is the pattern thus far with you. Over a thousand civilian casualties and 200 thousand exiled in a week during operation Storm are disagreeing with you. Oh you are denying just that, small potatoes... You keep mentioning that number, could you provide a source for that? Doesn't have to be in English. Battle of Marica is not celebrated but it is thought, as for the Battle of Kosovo it is an important part of our history. It was the "last stand" against the Ottoman empire and it is worth celebrating because the brave Serbs who fought in it knew before hand that it was a losing battle and in spite of it still stood their ground. The battle was a draw, despite of larger numbers on the Ottoman side, but unlike them we couldn't replenish our troops, so in the long run they won. Worth mentioning is that their Sultan was killed in the battle. You mention 2 battles, for one of which you were right. But our history is so much more then that. From the Byzantine Empire to the Ottoman empire, to WW1 in which we had the first 2 Allied victories in the most famous battles of WW1, to WW2 where our people protested the Nazis in spite of knowing that we couldn't stand up to them (Not to mention that we delayed Hitlers invasion of Russia by 2 months, which enabled the Russians to survive until the Siberian winter caught the Germans and in term gave them time to prepare for their counter-offensive which won the war). We have a history that any country can be proud of, we always stood our ground, even when the odds were against us, even when the bad choice was the smart one for us. What can your country say about it's history?

Why are you talking? Where did I deny them? These last few pages it has all been him denying the Croatian atrocities.

And that is where Tudjman's transcripts come in to play. They outright confirm, how much support Croatia had from the west. Not to mention that there were interviews with CIA agents who confirm that there was logistic and equipment support to Croats and the Muslim. No mention of Josip Boljkovac? Denying what, YNA operated in SFRJ. When Croatia declared independence they moved back. It was the same deal in Bosnia. Milosevic order all the Serb soldiers from the mainland to come back home. The only soldiers left in Bosnia were Bosnian-Serbs and the only people in Croatia were the Croatian-Serbs (ie. the Army of Krajina). So you say, facts are that we still have over 700 missing persons added to those 324. No, but how does that have anything to do with the intentions of the Croatian Army? You pretty much confirm their intentions. Ah so the story evolves. *************************************************************** Pretty sad you skipped mentioning the defeats we celebrate as victories. I was really looking forward to that.

Oh really the other way around, you don't say. Go read what Josip Boljkovac said. Tudjman wanted the war he attacked first because both he and Milosevic knew that Croatia had the support of the west. Doesn't change the fact that it was still SFRJ and that there where as much Serbian citizens in the city at the time, the army was doing it's job. There was no YNA in Croatia when it was recognized as independent. Anything before that was in the sphere of influence of YNA, because it was still SFRJ. When they acquitted Naser Oric, they showed how big of a sham the Hag was. There was enough evidence to condemn them, it just didn't matter. Oh? Please do tell. I can't wait to hear this. Over 1000, not 1000. Oh so the good forces of Croatia were coming with open arms to keep the Serbs in Croatia safe... So Croats killed Croats in the war. Well I'm glad we got that figured out. All the examples you made, are dictators solidifying their rule. What reason did Milosevic have to kill Serbs in Croatia.

So you start burning our villages and attacking our citizens and we coming to defend are the aggressors. Funny how that works. I didn't say no Serbian soldiers in Croatia, I said no YNA in Croatia. The Krajine army was by your own sources in full retreat and not engaging the Croats. As for Vukovar. Well Vukovar was a Serbian city, how can we attack our own city? Vukovar was in the time of war, spring-winter 1991., a part of SFRJ. SFRJ existed till 1992. If the war in Vukovar was from 1992. (Croatian Independence) then it would be YNA aggression in Croatia. ... I find it bad that there wasn't any verdict at all. Because we knew the trials were going to be a sham, as was/is the case. Not for your people they weren't. Anyone in the Balkans yes, but when the whole western world started their war against us, of course we couldn't win. Our history is full of us beating the odds, what can you say about yours? But they weren't winning, which is the point. I am using your sources, you are making stuff up. Where in Milosevic's quotes did he say that? Where was it ordered and enforced? People were scared of the Croatian Army and they ran. Your own sources confirm that. Over 1000 civilians deaths confirm that they were right in their fears. Over 1000 deaths confirms that they weren't inflating anything. Again it makes no sense to force people to leave unless you fear for their safety. Without proof that is just slander. But hey, that is pretty much your MO thus far.