Sarex

Wut?!? O_o

You do know that the war in Kosovo began before the bombings and that the only reason for the bombings was to force our land forces to move back from Kosovo? You were losing the proxy land war and weren't willing to commit your self to a land war. So try to demean Serbs all you want, the fact remains that you couldn't do jack-**** on the ground. Are you for real? Did you really think I meant invisible to the naked eye? LoL... What does that have to do with anything? OK, you have better planes now, what does that have to with us shooting down non stealth planes? Also worth mentioning, since you went there, those planes have a limited shelf life and cost extreme amounts of money to make. What incursion? What are you talking about? We were already in Kosovo, we were winning, even despite the air support from NATO. Then in 1999 you started bombing us, first our military objects (which didn't accomplish anything because we moved everything that mattered), it's only when you started going for our countries infrastructure, ie. soft targets, power plant, power mains and water plants did we eventually give up. Why go in to a discussion about Kosovo when you obviously don't know anything about the conflict?

Anyone with two peanuts in their head knows that they will use it for more then that.

So basically your argument is: "I'm right and you are wrong". 1) Well you certainly didn't have a problem with dismissing what I said. Yeah I'm lazy because I don't search for your sources too, just admit that you couldn't find them... 2)And I claim that it's because Operation Storm. Which is more likely I'll let others decide. 3)That is only about half the Serbs who left. 4)Well we certainly don't claim over 11000, maybe 1100. Well, we had over 1100 people missing, they still haven't showed up, so we presume them dead. But certainly not as much as it is in the interest of Croatia to lie. The trial is under way, people who are interested can see what proof we offer and what proof Croatia offers. I don't seem to be able to find it, would you kindly provide me with the links? Wikipedia is anything but neutral as it mostly relies on the western sources. My sources are as valid as yours, unless you have the proof to show otherwise. Oh please Croatia barely saw any of the conflict, while I have family from Bosnia that went through the thick of it. Oh yeah we only saw the bombs drop on the news... You showed how little you know even about the most basic of information. I haven't denied the wrongs the Serbian side has done, but you are still defending even the most obvious wrongs Croatia has committed. Oh yeah, you have trialed everyone but the people who matter. While we had our biggest political figures during the war jailed, and never found guilty. We shot down 2 of the invisible planes with the third unconfirmed, do you find it that strange that we shot down "regular planes" too. The only reason it even came to bombing Serbia is because America couldn't force our soldiers from Kosovo, ie. they were losing.

Ok, now I'm really weirded out. How do Obys post keep appearing out of nowhere. For an example when I first posted in this thread, no Oby post, when I came backe to check it out again, he has a second post in the thread. Are the mods approving his post so they have a delay or what? Well, it's more like some people here are going: "Omg, Russia is so corrupt, they censor everything. Putin is so evil.". Then by proxy the rest of the countries are just as corrupt and "evil". I guess what, I am trying to say is, clean up your own back yard before complaining about your neighbors.

But clearly you are telling the truth. Right? If it's easy find them. So they deported 200 thousand Serbs from their homes and jobs, to make Croatia look bad? Then I have a question, why don't those 200 thousand Serbs come back to their homes now? The war is over there should be no problems, right? The transcripts also prove that Operation Storm was sanctioned and supported by the west. Why would they then go and in their own court incriminate them selves? Yeah, people are supposed to believe that CA just went for a stroll to stretch their legs and 1000 dead and 200 thousand banished are just a coincidence. Show me some source or proof for those removed non-Serbs from Croatia. So 324 are dead by your sources and the remaining 700 don't exist? Or did they go on a vacation and forgot to come back? LoL. Wikipedia. LoL Also let's get something clear, my sources are people who were in the war and people who were banished from their homes, those are the people I trust and they have no reason to lie. The links I provide are for the benefit of others who don't know what happened.

Are you guys for real, because I'm laughing my ass off. Did you forget about Snowden and what he said about the NSA censorship of the internet. For ****s sake even the UK is getting its paws on youtube and can now censor anything it deems worthy. Yeah Putin is not a nice guy. No one here is claiming that, but lets get something clear, neither are the rest of the worlds superpowers.

Show me those videos you keep mentioning. You don't know how ridiculous you sound. Why would RSK order such things? Why would I answer strawmans, that have 0 bases in what happened in the real world? Yeah, clearly. Because you provided sources and spoke sensibly in these last few pages. You don't know how ridiculous your claim about operation Storm sounds. In Zagreb.

It's funny that you think America reported their real losses in Afghanistan or Iraq. I know about their reports in Vietnam, where they lost hundreds of airplanes and claimed to have lost only a couple of dozen. And where did I post a source that claimed 300 shot down planes during NATO bombing, in fact were did I CLAIM that? You didn't even read the links I posted...

Can you really be that simple? If an army is coming, you run away from it. The 1000 who didn't run obviously payed for it. Anyone who reads it can clearly see what was the intent of Operation Storm. You obviously haven't read it, as can be seen from you previous post. You just repeat like a parrot what the west said. Did I not just say that I have been to Croatia? Talked to a few Croats, never about the war but I talked to them like a normal person would.

Oh, mine are questionable? Then by all means show me yours... Yes they were. That you claim that 200 thousand Serbs left of their own free will and that 1000 civilians killed in a week is anything but a genocide is ridiculous. Do you really know so little? We used them yesterday in our opening statement in Hag, the trial has just begun... Excuse me if I don't believe you. They are holding a grudge, but not anything like the Croats are doing. We have no problems in Bosnia...

We lost 30 planes in the Bosnian war, that was the majority of our air force. The enemy had hundreds. There was no competing with the whole world in the war. as can be seen from the results(it was simply a game of numbers). But we didn't just roll over when they told us to, especially with Kosovo and the NATO bombings.

http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24839

Pretty much this and as far as I remember there was an optimal party composition, that you needed to take. Or just take a bard and spam songs. XD

http://www.cracked.com/video_18662_the-horrifying-secret-the-matrix-reveals-about-humanity.html

Huh just checked for some news, and found new info. http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-x99-chipset-wellsburg-details-leaked-ddr4/#ixzz2vb1Yymxk

I bought a Seasonic x660 in anticipation of a new build, I have a Vertex 4 ssd which is currently on a sata2 mb (it should preform a lot better on sata3) and an old Antec Sonata III case, which I can't afford to replace in my current budget (I don't want to go cheap on a case). I should have a little over 1000 euros by the end of the year. So 500-550 euros on a CPU, 250-300 on a MB(Though I would like to go all out and get the Asus Rampage V), around 100 for RAM (I don't plan to go all out for RAM, because as you said it will not offer much early on) and the rest on a decent cooling solution (the new noctua nh-d14 successor is looking nice). edit: Now that I think about it, I would need a new case, the lga 2011 boards are mostly EATX, which would not fit in my case. Hmmmm a **** in my plan. Maybe it's time to go supper Jew. XD

Well I'm only changing mobo/CPU and ram. My budget for that is around 1000 euros. I have a 560 Ti which is still doing work, though I would replace it next year. Pretty much, I guess we will have to wait and see. If they go with some insane prices I will go with the Haswell refresh or Broadwell if it comes out and probably get a new graphics card too.

Yeah, I will be using it for gaming and rendering (3dsmax, softimage, artlantis and similar stuff). But it's mostly future proofing, I bought this rig over 5 years ago and it served me well, processor wise, to this day. What I want now is to get in on the 8-core and DDR-4 so I can leave it alone for another 5 years. It all depends if the prices are feasible for me, mainly the processor cost and the ram cost. And I don't really like that the non E variants from intel are using paste instead of solder.

Yeah it all over r/leagueoflegends.

http://www.historija.ba/d/323-zapocela-vojna-intervencija-nato-a-u-bih/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_O%27Grady#Shootdown Shot down planes during NATO bombings. http://www.scribd.com/doc/25309063/Spisak-Oborenih-NATO-Letilica http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2000/tim2000-5-1.html http://jrv127.tripod.com/nato.html As for the French troops, well one of the "members" testified in Hag with a voice modulator and a hidden face how we held them as hostages. Do you even know what a strawman argument means? They left because the Croatian army chased them away during operation Storm. Yeah 1000 dead civilians in a week is chump change... As for the transcripts, we are using them in Hag in our countersuit again the Croatian people. So tell me again how they don't provide any real evidence. Oh go and tell those Serbian friends what you told me, if you dare. See if they remain your friends. Do you wonder why the bus didn't stop? Because there was an incident in the previous years where Serbian students were attacked.

I'm coming from a Q6600 and really want to make the upgrade to the latest tech, but that 1k variant is beyond my reach.

OK, if you are so adamant about it, then link me a video of the generals saying those thing. There were victories, we did shoot down multiple jet fighters, I just told you these things. We also shot down 2 F-117a during the NATO bombings. So I repeat my question 200 thousand Serbs just left because they were bored? What about the 1000 civilians killed? Don't twist the quote, well maybe I did translate it very well, what the quote meant is that the Serbs in Croatia don't recover not Serbs in general. Do you want me to quote the rest of the transcripts from Tudjman, because you obviously haven't read them when you claim these things. Because that simply isn't true, Croats work here, Croatian products are on our shelves, no Croatians cars are burned and it would be news. While when I went on a school trip to Italy the bus wouldn't stop in Zagreb because they feared we would get assaulted. Spread all the lies you want, I have proof to back up my stories.

What do you guys think, will Haswell-E have a 600 dollar 8-core version or will it be reserved for the 1k one?

So much for your information, you don't even remember what you watched. It was not US troops it was a French KFOR division in Lukavica and we shot down a Mirage captured the pilots and a F16, the pilot escaped. As for operation Storm, you should be ashamed of your self. That is the single biggest lie you said so far. What did Tudjman say in the Croatian high command meting in Brioni(31st of july 1995.), right before Operation Storm? He said "We should give the Serbs a hit that they won't recover from". Are you even listening your self? Serbs left their homes to run because they were told to do so, not because of the Croatian army coming for them? Want me pull up Croatian news, about the Serbs who were mistreated in Croatia recently? For **** sake, even a Croatian ex-officer had his car wrecked in Split because it had Belgrade number plates.