Deraldin

Considering it's not the first time he's done it, you'd think it wouldn't be as much of a surprise this time. I suppose he was a month early this time. Only 17 months and September instead of 18 months and October.

You can get credit for them no matter what now. If you complete quests in someone else's game that are farther ahead of where you are, the game will ask if you want to skip those quests when you catch up in your game.

The problem you have with all of your examples, with the exception of the indie bundles is that you are using examples of a single entity providing the ability to use their own service in multiple ways. Being able to watch netflix on any device you choose is not equivalent to being able to buy a game on GoG and then download it on Steam. In the first instance you have one company that see money and provides you the ability to use a service. In the second instance you have two providers of that service. Only one of them is getting your money, but from the description provided by the OP he wants service from both of them. This is much more understandable and it sounds like this is the way that they are leaning. The boxed copy is separate from the digital download copy. There was some discussion about this in another thread earlier with Guildmaster about whether or not the boxed copy would use Steamworks, however even if it does, you can still use your download version to pick it up from GoG for your DRM free copy. Perfect platform agnosticism is a nice goal that I don't think we are quite there in terms of the broader market. The MP3 example is not an equivalent situation. When you create an MP3 file, the MP3 is not what determines whether or not you can play the song on your mac or linux box. That functionality is provided by your media player which may or may not run on all OS's.

Lidstrom comes out of retirement to play in the SEL!

Yup, Tomb of Horrors. Didn't that thing have a sphere of annihilation right near the beginning? Instant death, no resistance, no save, just dead. Damn you Monte!

You explained magical happy land. You're saying "Hey CDProjekt, I bought this game through Steam. Valve has some money, but you should let me download it because I'd really like a DRM free version." As I've explained multiple times now, I don't care whether it's GOG or Obsidian find some where else, even use a torrent tracker, that doesn't matter. Even if they charged for the bandwidth use, who cares, it's not like you need to download the entire game if you already have one version, you have the vast majority of content. I'd really like to know what people think you're getting for "free" and how it's such a big deal. Why do you need to be able to download it from multiple sources? That's not the point. I've already explained why I'd like a Steam version and a DRM-free version. Then please state it again, because I'm not sure I understand what your point is.

You explained magical happy land. You're saying "Hey CDProjekt, I bought this game through Steam. Valve has some money, but you should let me download it because I'd really like a DRM free version." As I've explained multiple times now, I don't care whether it's GOG or Obsidian find some where else, even use a torrent tracker, that doesn't matter. Even if they charged for the bandwidth use, who cares, it's not like you need to download the entire game if you already have one version, you have the vast majority of content. I'd really like to know what people think you're getting for "free" and how it's such a big deal. Why do you need to be able to download it from multiple sources?

You're saying that they have to provide their servers to you, so that you can download a game that you bought somewhere else, that they aren't seeing any money from.

This should not have taken 30 posts to show up.

I see there is mention of multiple resolutions and multi-monitor sizes for the wallpaper but nothing about aspect ratios. Can we get 16:10 sizes? Practically everything is 16:9 these days, but I have a couple 16:10 monitors that are a pain to find proper sized images for.

That may be your perspective, but it's not one that everyone subscribes to. Having the system automatically patch your games so that they are always ready to go when you are is a benefit to some people. I can't say that it alone would persuade someone to choose Steam, but I have seen it brought up before in discussions about why people like Steam

Can't speak for your second question, but it looks like they haven't yet determined just how the box version will work just yet.

I'll choose the 'DRM option' because I really like the Steam platform. When it's done downloading it's ready to play, I can uninstall and install with a few simple clicks and my friends are on Steam as well - which makes MP games easier. Ah, awesome. Thank you. Exactly what I was wanting to hear. Easy management of updates is another possible reason.

There should be an option on the kickstarter page to "manage your pledge" or something to that effect which will allow you to increase the amount.

Kickstarter backers as a group seem to be very anti-DRM in all it's forms, moreso than most other groups and they categorize Steam in that group where others might make an exception for it because of the benefits it provides.

I think legal trouble is the least of their worries. It's more likely they don't want to damage any possible business relationship they might have in the future.

Why would you guys want beta access for a game like this anyway? Hurray I get to play the game in a bug filled state and spoil myself on all the story aspects before release!

I want to play AP, I have played NWN2 and F:NV and loved them both You mentioned its dirt cheap. Where can I buy it, on Steam? It's $20 on steam right now, but it's been as low as $2 in steam sales.

I don't believe it has been announced, but I would expect Obsidian to use their own Onyx engine.

I've been passing the time until Borderlands 2 with this as well. So far I've only managed to beat the game once, but it's pretty easy to get sucked into it since it doesn't take very long to run through.

Who's this Llyranor imposter? What happened to Nick_i_am? >_>

The most recent version of the lair is technically still up, but other than a "this place is dead" nothing has happened in months. Only a few people came back and joined, but not enough to sustain a community. And dammit Humanoid and your member ID # crap! Sadly I stuck around Interplay for a few extra months before making the migration over here so I didn't get one of those really low numbers.

Awesome news!

Yeah, he sang the songs for the Lonesome Drifter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0zyqiNzMBk