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If your parents raised two kids without complaining I'd believe they were masochistic.

KP I imagine you were a good son. Especially now and looking after your mom

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

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Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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If your parents raised two kids without complaining I'd believe they were masochistic.

KP I imagine you were a good son. Especially now and looking after your mom

 

That its irrelevant it doesn't matter how good you were as a son, once you understand that you have an obligation to a lifeform other than yourself and that it means compromising and sacrificing without hope of a recompense. Then you know how much they gave up and how much they had to change just to raise you.

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I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

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"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

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We have kids that are watching the Internet, and they want to be masterminds. And then you wonder why we lose all these kids, they want to be masterminds; they're young, they're impressionable, they want to join ISIS.

 

And we have our anchors—I think I've got 'em mostly stopped, have you noticed that, they don't say it as much—but they say, the 'young mastermind', oh he's brilliant. I don't think he's got a high IQ. In Paris, I called him the guy with the dirty, filthy hat. 'K? Not a smart guy, a dummy. A mastermind? Bing bing bing, starts shooting everybody.

 

The press has to be responsible; they're not being responsible. We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people who really understand what's happening and maybe, in some ways, closing that Internet up in some ways.

 

Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people, we have a lot of foolish people. We've got to maybe do something with the Internet because they're recruiting by the thousands, they're leaving our country, and then when they come back, we take them back.

 

'Where were you?' 'I was fighting for ISIS.' 'Oh, come on back. Go home, enjoy yourself.' When they leave our country and they go to fight or go to ISIS, they never can come back.

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/trump-closing-the-internet-up-in-some-way/?tw=dd

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Trump probably means he wants to stop terrorist recruiting on the internet. Here's a guy who really wants to censor the internet, and he can do it too:

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/08/google-chairman-wants-hate-speech-spell-checker-to-filter-internet/

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As I have said many times, the best way to ensure a Democrat and Clinton presidential victory is for Trump to become the Republican candidate

 

Trump has successfully ostracized moderates and alienated minorities.

 

His rhetoric doesn't seem to concern the current Republican supporters because he has a 20 point lead compared to the next Republican candidate

 

So I guess we need to wait for the elections before people realize offensive comments about minority groups just aren't acceptable anymore in US politics 

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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It would be funny if you were wrong. Look at changes in EU. Especially France with rcent regional elections.

 

Trump winning might be a real deal in a society that had enough of retarded PC/SJ in every single aspect of life

It wouldn't be funny, I would be very disappointed if Trump became the next president of the US because of exactly the reasons you mentioned 

 

He has a complete disregard for being "PC " or for the concepts of human rights and yes what you call SJ issues

 

So for 4 years the world and the USA would be stuck with someone who has very little interest in the world being a more equitable and fair place

 

So yes this is something that should be a concern to all of us. But it won't be the end of the world ...just an issue 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Trump vs Hillary? It's like asking which butt cheek do you want the shot in. One one side you have a billionaire beholden to none (not even a sense of decency) and feels free to say anything the pops in his head. I can't imagine how that might go in world politics. On the other a millionaire with no sense of morals, who has told so many lies she no longer even remembers what's true, respects nothing, and looks at her fellow citizens with a condescending arrogance that is exceeded only by the current President.

 

The thought that one of those two could become President makes me want to buy more guns, more ammunition, and more preserved food.    

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Well to be fair, neither Bush or Obama has caused any doom so far, just dumb things.

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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One bad President won't bring down the country. But if you string 3-4 of them together...

"While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before"

Thomas Sowell

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One bad President won't bring down the country. But if you string 3-4 of them together...

We've strung more than that and the only consequences have been stagnant wages and increasing surveillance. Oh wait those aren't good things...

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands

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With regard to Hillary, she is the only one who is actually talking about confiscating firearms. I wonder if she truly believes we'll just meekly hand them over when the time comes? Does she truly comprehend what the outcome of that would be?

"While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before"

Thomas Sowell

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Gun buyback programs aren't quite the same as gun confiscation.  Per the usual, NRA freaks out.   :p

 

edit: there are 2 guns for every 3 people in this country.  A gun ban isn't just a legislative non-starter, it is completely unfeasible.  

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How much more unfeasible than tackling the underlying issues that actually cause gun violence? I'd wager probably not that much more. Not that that prevents people from ignoring the latter while continuing to harp on in regards to the former. :p

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Yes this is all over the international media....Gfted1 when Trump makes comments like he did how do you feel? I'm battling to understand why you guys aren't more annoyed and or concerned ?

 

I know I tend to perhaps overact to these types of comments but surly someone on this forum from the USA must be a little ......exasperated ?

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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With regard to Hillary, she is the only one who is actually talking about confiscating firearms. I wonder if she truly believes we'll just meekly hand them over when the time comes? Does she truly comprehend what the outcome of that would be?

GD.....I have never understood why you think there will come a day when the Federal government will resort to killing Americans to enforce this type of law, which I doubt will ever be implemented due all the resistance from influential groups like NRA

 

I know you have explained this to me before but do you really think this is something possible .....and I wonder what other US members on these forums think about a possible future where the Feds resort to arresting and or killing American citizens for not complying with a law that wanted to confiscate firearms ?

 

Also I can understand now why you probably dislike Hillary so much...when she makes these types of comments...she must be the antithesis of your acceptable politician :biggrin:  

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Nah Bruce. The world is changing. A lot and i mean A LOT of people see the more and more rigid PC and SJ rules, forced tolerance but only one way etc. as an ugly abomination that rose from fairly nice ideology. But then again even communism and national socialism were fairly decent ideologies which mutated into something horrible.

 

You need to draw a line between acquiringnequal right and opportunities vs. Fighting for more privilages because "reasons".

 

This is why ultra right wing parties win in CEE. This is why EU sees a rise in the same vein of politics, with France almost becoming another state under suuch influence. I see no reason why USA should walk a vastly different path.

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Yes this is all over the international media....Gfted1 when Trump makes comments like he did how do you feel? I'm battling to understand why you guys aren't more annoyed and or concerned ?

 

I know I tend to perhaps overact to these types of comments but surly someone on this forum from the USA must be a little ......exasperated ?

Dear White Devil,

 

In the interests of forum harmony and lest I peg your Histronic Meter over 9000 again, I must respectfully decline to engage you in conversation.

 

Yours truly,

 

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With regard to Hillary, she is the only one who is actually talking about confiscating firearms. I wonder if she truly believes we'll just meekly hand them over when the time comes? Does she truly comprehend what the outcome of that would be?

It worked in Yurop and other freedoom hating parts of the world.

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Yes this is all over the international media....Gfted1 when Trump makes comments like he did how do you feel? I'm battling to understand why you guys aren't more annoyed and or concerned ?

 

I know I tend to perhaps overact to these types of comments but surly someone on this forum from the USA must be a little ......exasperated ?

 

How do we feel? If I ever took him seriously as a candidate I guess I'd feel pretty bad. Or I wouldn't care (which is worse). But since I've always thought we was a buffoon I guess I'd say I'm not surprised.

"While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before"

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