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Latest Avellone DRAMA - accuses Obsidian HR of harassment, regrets signing NDA


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Edited by Infinitron, 14 November 2017 - 02:08 AM.


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Point me to the tweet where he does accuse Obsidian?
Avellone worked for other companies than Obsidian throughout the years you know.



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Point me to the tweet where he does accuse Obsidian?
Avellone worked for other companies than Obsidian throughout the years you know.

 

http://www.mobygames...loperId,182285/

 

Chris Parker's wife.



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Speechless. Not cool.


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I wish Avellone would just tell the whole story. He complains about the owners and management, but at the same time he was both. I feel like I'm missing a crucial point and so I don't know if I believe him or not.


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I wish Avellone would just tell the whole story. He complains about the owners and management, but at the same time he was both. I feel like I'm missing a crucial point and so I don't know if I believe him or not.

 

I think it's a matter of perspective for him. He comes across as a guy that really has trouble with authority, even when he is the one with it. Nothing wrong with that, not everybody is a good fit with a corporate type structure, but he does seem to lack awareness about it. Of course, this is all speculation, but there simply hasn't been anything egregious that he has brought up, instead it has just been hints and slights.


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Which probably makes it even worse. Folks now imagine their own stories, and we know how much folks like to imagine.

 

PS: I god damn hate twitter and the way they present text. In the screencaps above I first thought I had to read from bottom to top, then I noticed that no, I have to read from middle to bottom and then the top. How the heck do people not go crazy with this?


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There's a huge chip on his shoulder, that's for sure, but I just don't want to know about this, and still I can't resist reading on. It's like watching a car crash. I'm disgusted at myself.


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Speechless. Not cool.


Why? If he was a women there would be people with torches by their headquarters.
Apart from double standards here we know that Avellone was mistreated by Obsidian and was constantly undermined by JAS and his inferiority complex.

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Point me to the tweet where he does accuse Obsidian?
Avellone worked for other companies than Obsidian throughout the years you know.

 

http://www.mobygames...loperId,182285/

 

Chris Parker's wife.

 

 

Might be, might be other company. From my personal experience a lot of HR in companies (especially smaller ones) were and are handled by spouses or family of the owners.
He doesn't mention the name.


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Speechless. Not cool.


Why? If he was a women there would be people with torches by their headquarters.
Apart from double standards here we know that Avellone was mistreated by Obsidian and was constantly undermined by JAS and his inferiority complex.

 

 

lol what? How do you know any of this?

Edited by Celeras, 14 November 2017 - 10:08 AM.


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lol what? How do you know any of this?

 

 

People who didn't like Pillars of Eternity often assume that Chris Avellone left Obsidian for the same reasons they didn't like Pillars of Eternity.


Edited by Infinitron, 14 November 2017 - 10:28 AM.

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I wish Avellone would just tell the whole story. He complains about the owners and management, but at the same time he was both. I feel like I'm missing a crucial point and so I don't know if I believe him or not.

 

I find it a bit bewildering that an industry veteran like MCA keeps dropping these childish, passive aggressive comments - and he seems to really enjoy teasing his fans who all want to know what really happened with the fact that he knows and can't - or won't - tell (maybe both).

 

Well that's okay, I did that too.

 

Back in fifth grade.


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When a woman falls to the darkside, you'd better be at the other end of the galaxy.



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When a woman falls to the darkside, you'd better be at the other end of the galaxy.

 

Did a new trailer for TLJ come out?



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lol what? How do you know any of this?

 

 

People who didn't like Pillars of Eternity often assume that Chris Avellone left Obsidian for the same reasons they didn't like Pillars of Eternity.

 

 

That still doesn't explain his opinion that Chris was mistreated or undermined...



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Wasn't Avellone part owner/founder of Obsidian?  The way he talks, it sounds like it's coming from some lowly assistant who was treated poorly by every manager he worked under.


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I wish Avellone would just tell the whole story. He complains about the owners and management, but at the same time he was both. I feel like I'm missing a crucial point and so I don't know if I believe him or not.

 

 

Wasn't Avellone part owner/founder of Obsidian?  The way he talks, it sounds like it's coming from some lowly assistant who was treated poorly by every manager he worked under.

 

 

Scratch my last post in this discussion. You guys are on to something.



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Yes he was an owner and theoretically at least creative manager as well. Said it last time that this stuff came up but ChrisA is not coming across well at all with the passive aggressive stuff and some of what he has said strongly implies a lot of it was his fault, reading between the lines. Only one friend left at a 150+ person company? The old adage about **** applies; if you meet one occasionally it's probably them, if you meet them all the time it's probably you. The passive aggressive stuff is exactly what will make otherwise reasonable people roll their eyes and ignore you because you're being obnoxious, even if you do have a point originally.

 

 

That still doesn't explain his opinion that Chris was mistreated or undermined...

 

 

The 'theory' is that Chris left due to clashes with JESawyer, who turned PoE into a bland overbalanced bore fest instead of the vibrant unique awesome that it would have been had Chris been doing it. It's a more prevalent theory on the 'Codex where Infinitron mostly posts and where holy war is waged over the status of PoE as a good/ bad game that makes the 30 Years War look like a sit down picnic.


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