Political Twelve Monkeys

[Malcador]

Yeah, it's just your prick neighbours instead

[Guard Dog]

That actually wasn't a homeowner's association. It was the city of Miami Shores. Of course, from personal experience I think even less of homeowner's associations. Now there is petty tyranny for you. My fist house was in a suburb of Fort Lauderdale called Margate. It was, like most south Florida developments under the rule of a particularly nazi-esque association. The vice president of this thing was a 70 year old moral busybody who got his exercise every morning by walking around the community with a clip board and a camera looking for violations to cite people for. I was driving to work late one morning when I saw that fat, bald SOB on his knees in someone's yard measuring the height of grass with a ruler. I seriously considered running him over. I'm quite sure no one would have seen anything.

 

But for all that a homeowners association is something you freely join when you buy property in the community. You know going in that buying that house means joining the agreement of homeowners to live by a certain set of rules. The city on the other hand exerting such heavy handed control over a private residence in which the public has no ownership interest should be alarming. I've said it before the five justices who sided with the City of New London in the Kelo case should have been dragged from the courthouse at the end of a rope and hanged in the street. That decision changed forever the relationship between private property and municipal authority.

[Agiel]

[Gfted1]

Run him out of town!

[injurai]

HOA's usually existed to maintain the value of homes in the neighborhood. If you don't have the wealth to do your part in maintaining everyone's hard investments then it's strongly suggested you get out.

 

I think the basic premise is fine on some level, but it get's murky because people can get really ****ing petty. Especially from people who stay at home or work from home, they become little socialite vigilantes. If someone has kids and works full time, they're roll in society is more important than some childless or empty nesting stay at home, and certainly deserve some slack. Usually if an HOA is really laying on the bull**** you can go to your local news and break the story. HOA's usually have more power if your doing something wrong, as opposed to not meeting the basics.

[Hurlshort]

I like the idea of having access to an HOA pool, because pool maintenance is a hassle. But other than that they are a pain. 

[Maedhros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ei11WhPCDI

[Guard Dog]

To all of you folks who are worry about the idiots President (insert any name here) is putting into positions of power should consider something. If we took away all of the governments power and left it just enough to fulfill it's basic functions you would not have to lie awake at night worrying what those idiots are up to. Just sayin'

[Volourn]

Home Owner Associations are just another excuse and way for humans to act like Nazis and enslave others while lording their power and status. EVIL.

[smjjames]

To all of you folks who are worry about the idiots President (insert any name here) is putting into positions of power should consider something. If we took away all of the governments power and left it just enough to fulfill it's basic functions you would not have to lie awake at night worrying what those idiots are up to. Just sayin'

I suspect that fulfilling basic functions and allowing things to work requires a lot more people than you think.

 

I wonder when someone will attempt that kind of downsizing on the Federal and State level. Possibly down to county and big city level too.

 

As for the HOA thing, I don't have any personal experience with those.

Edited November 14, 2017 by smjjames

[Malcador]

To all of you folks who are worry about the idiots President (insert any name here) is putting into positions of power should consider something. If we took away all of the governments power and left it just enough to fulfill it's basic functions you would not have to lie awake at night worrying what those idiots are up to. Just sayin'

 

In some cases, say EPA, its absence will still have people up an night worrying about a different set of idiots.  People only act to help the common good with a gun to their heads.

[Guard Dog]

Just to repeat, the story was not about HOA hubris. It was about a city making what is essentially landscape decoration decisions on a private residence what was not in poor repair, behind on it's taxes, or in any violation of building code. In short there was absolutely no reason for the city to intrude on that private residence and tell them how to decorate the yard they pay for. The court to say that a great deal of deference must be given to an elected government should terrify us. What can't they do then?

 

Hell will freeze solid before I ever live within a city limit again.

[smjjames]

Even small town governments can be jerkwads when it comes to regulations.

[Guard Dog]

"Government, even in it's best state is but a necessary evil. In it's worst state an intolerable one."

Edited November 14, 2017 by Guard Dog

[injurai]

Shame government isn't like sex.

[HoonDing]

 

its great when youa re at the top

[Guard Dog]

[smjjames]

Interesting that they have the clergy (looks like Roman Catholic) in there since you don't usually think of the clergy as being part of the capitalist system. This is long before the rise of televangelism though.

 

Edit: Not getting what you're face palming at with the polar bear facepalm pic Guard Dog.

Edited November 14, 2017 by smjjames

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Interesting that they have the clergy (looks like Roman Catholic) in there since you don't usually think of the clergy as being part of the capitalist system.

Look at the caption next to the clergy.

Edited November 14, 2017 by KaineParker

[Hurlshort]

I'd guess the face palming is at the silly communist propaganda.

[smjjames]

 

Interesting that they have the clergy (looks like Roman Catholic) in there since you don't usually think of the clergy as being part of the capitalist system.

Look at the caption next to the clergy.

I saw that, just thought corporations would be more fitting. Though these days, televangelists would fit right in there.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

Interesting that they have the clergy (looks like Roman Catholic) in there since you don't usually think of the clergy as being part of the capitalist system.

Look at the caption next to the clergy.

I saw that, just thought corporations would be more fitting. Though these days, televangelists would fit right in there.

Corporations are already at the top. These days Kardashians or reality TV would take that spot.

[smjjames]

You know, shouldnt the rich people partying be switched with the soldiers? Because it's usually the poor people that "we shoot at" rather than both the rich and poor.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

In terms of size yeah.

[Guard Dog]

 

Ufff... the turn this conversation has taken.

 

If you will all excuse me I'm going to go watch the sun set from the porch of the home I built and sip a glass of fine nine year old bourbon and contemplate the wonderful life I get to lead because I live and work in a relatively free and mostly capitalist country