Politics 2017 part II

[Ben No.3]

Doubly ironic considering who they're letting into their country.

 

Interesting analyses: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/real-message-behind-audis-super-bowl-ad-isnt-exactly-uplifting-one/

This made me laugh quite a lot. And I thought I over interpreted things.

 

The author seems pissed that they in the end go into an expensive Audi and drive away. He sees this as representative of the upper class and they're tight grip on the lower class.

 

Had this been simply a video clip, he would be right. But this is an ad, and thus I find it perfectly reasonable for Audi to show off. And I mean you have to give it to them, the car does look great. But again.... no message aside from "we make good looking cars BUY OUR STUFF PLEASE".

 

The over interpretation of this ad also suffers from a logical error: if Audi beliefs that the upper class should always have the edge over the lower class, then why would they use that as an advertisement strategy? I'm no PR expert, but this does seem like a big middle finger towards many potential soon-to-be customers. So I don't see why they'd actually try to convey that message in an ad.

 

The author of this article seems to be te kind of person who also would think that hard right winged billionaires who lie in bed with Wall Street would be a tremendous representative for the working class. It doesn't make all to much sense when you think about it.

[BruceVC]

 

Doubly ironic considering who they're letting into their country.

 

Interesting analyses: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/real-message-behind-audis-super-bowl-ad-isnt-exactly-uplifting-one/

This made me laugh quite a lot. And I thought I over interpreted things.

 

The author seems pissed that they in the end go into an expensive Audi and drive away. He sees this as representative of the upper class and they're tight grip on the lower class.

 

Had this been simply a video clip, he would be right. But this is an ad, and thus I find it perfectly reasonable for Audi to show off. And I mean you have to give it to them, the car does look great. But again.... no message aside from "we make good looking cars BUY OUR STUFF PLEASE".

 

The over interpretation of this ad also suffers from a logical error: if Audi beliefs that the upper class should always have the edge over the lower class, then why would they use that as an advertisement strategy? I'm no PR expert, but this does seem like a big middle finger towards many potential soon-to-be customers. So I don't see why they'd actually try to convey that message in an ad.

 

The author of this article seems to be te kind of person who also would think that hard right winged billionaires who lie in bed with Wall Street would be a tremendous representative for the working class. It doesn't make all to much sense when you think about it.

 

Bennie please summarize your view on what you think should be the most effective system of government, do you believe in Socialism or Communism?

 

Can you give me an example of a country you think the West should emulate around ideology if at all ?

[Ben No.3]

Is there anything Trump can't do? https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/256426

Not grabbing women by the pu$$y?

Edited February 5, 2017 by Ben No.3

[Meshugger]

 

 

Doubly ironic considering who they're letting into their country.

 

Interesting analyses: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/real-message-behind-audis-super-bowl-ad-isnt-exactly-uplifting-one/

This made me laugh quite a lot. And I thought I over interpreted things.

 

The author seems pissed that they in the end go into an expensive Audi and drive away. He sees this as representative of the upper class and they're tight grip on the lower class.

 

Had this been simply a video clip, he would be right. But this is an ad, and thus I find it perfectly reasonable for Audi to show off. And I mean you have to give it to them, the car does look great. But again.... no message aside from "we make good looking cars BUY OUR STUFF PLEASE".

 

The over interpretation of this ad also suffers from a logical error: if Audi beliefs that the upper class should always have the edge over the lower class, then why would they use that as an advertisement strategy? I'm no PR expert, but this does seem like a big middle finger towards many potential soon-to-be customers. So I don't see why they'd actually try to convey that message in an ad.

 

The author of this article seems to be te kind of person who also would think that hard right winged billionaires who lie in bed with Wall Street would be a tremendous representative for the working class. It doesn't make all to much sense when you think about it.

 

Bennie please summarize your view on what you think should be the most effective system of government, do you believe in Socialism or Communism?

 

Can you give me an example of a country you think the West should emulate around ideology if at all ?

 

 

I think that he is secretly a Trump supporter, because as a true marxist, he wants to grab them by the p***y  seize the means of (re)production.

[Ben No.3]

 

 

Doubly ironic considering who they're letting into their country.

 

Interesting analyses: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/real-message-behind-audis-super-bowl-ad-isnt-exactly-uplifting-one/

This made me laugh quite a lot. And I thought I over interpreted things.

 

The author seems pissed that they in the end go into an expensive Audi and drive away. He sees this as representative of the upper class and they're tight grip on the lower class.

 

Had this been simply a video clip, he would be right. But this is an ad, and thus I find it perfectly reasonable for Audi to show off. And I mean you have to give it to them, the car does look great. But again.... no message aside from "we make good looking cars BUY OUR STUFF PLEASE".

 

The over interpretation of this ad also suffers from a logical error: if Audi beliefs that the upper class should always have the edge over the lower class, then why would they use that as an advertisement strategy? I'm no PR expert, but this does seem like a big middle finger towards many potential soon-to-be customers. So I don't see why they'd actually try to convey that message in an ad.

 

The author of this article seems to be te kind of person who also would think that hard right winged billionaires who lie in bed with Wall Street would be a tremendous representative for the working class. It doesn't make all to much sense when you think about it.

Bennie please summarize your view on what you think should be the most effective system of government, do you believe in Socialism or Communism?

 

Can you give me an example of a country you think the West should emulate around ideology if at all ?

Well I'd say I'm a socialist. As for what country we should emulate... well non. That's not the point... ideally, we take te best of everything. Finnish' education system, Switzerland's system of direct democracy, the US' limitations on the number of years the president can be in office, Germany's parliamentary system...

 

The most effective government is one that is completely transparent and that can be put out of power by the people anytime. I'm a fan of close to complete release of all information on governmental action, and I'm a big fan of referendums, including such ones that can put te executive out of power. You see where I'm heading at?

 

Do I believe in communism? As an utopian ideal, it is appealing. As with all utopias, it suffers from reality.

 

Talking about political realities, I think the point is to take a socialist system and correct its problems with capitalist elements. So keep a free market, but regulate it heavily, give all people free education, health insurance and a guaranteed basic unconditional income, democracy at te workplace, no inherent wealth, no owners of land, shared cars inside of cities (as opposed to private ownership), governmental participation in central markets, ....

 

I've also come to adopt many ecological standpoints.

[Wrath of Dagon]

 

Doubly ironic considering who they're letting into their country.

 

Interesting analyses: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/real-message-behind-audis-super-bowl-ad-isnt-exactly-uplifting-one/

This made me laugh quite a lot. And I thought I over interpreted things.

 

The author seems pissed that they in the end go into an expensive Audi and drive away. He sees this as representative of the upper class and they're tight grip on the lower class.

 

Had this been simply a video clip, he would be right. But this is an ad, and thus I find it perfectly reasonable for Audi to show off. And I mean you have to give it to them, the car does look great. But again.... no message aside from "we make good looking cars BUY OUR STUFF PLEASE".

 

The over interpretation of this ad also suffers from a logical error: if Audi beliefs that the upper class should always have the edge over the lower class, then why would they use that as an advertisement strategy? I'm no PR expert, but this does seem like a big middle finger towards many potential soon-to-be customers. So I don't see why they'd actually try to convey that message in an ad.

 

The author of this article seems to be te kind of person who also would think that hard right winged billionaires who lie in bed with Wall Street would be a tremendous representative for the working class. It doesn't make all to much sense when you think about it.

 

Do you think it's normal to portray children in a children's competition as if they just got off the set of Deliverance? Audi makes a product for the wealthy, and the message of the commercial is that the wealthy deserve the best because they're superior to the "others". The author is complaining about them getting into an expensive Audi because they seem to have completely forgotten about the soap box racer, which shows the whole story of the commercial was complete BS.

[redneckdevil]

Why do we care about the commercials though?

[Hurlshort]

I'm not a huge fan of the Baldwin Trump, but Melissa McCarthy as the press secretary is probably the best thing I've seen out of SNL in years.

 

[Bartimaeus]

I can't imagine how bad Baldwin Trump must've been if this was the good one...

[Wrath of Dagon]

Why do we care about the commercials though?

Why do we care about anything? It's propaganda tens of millions of people will see.

 

Google redefines fascism: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/

 

These are not liberal rioters, at least I wouldn't call them that. Liberals used to share the fundamental American values of free speech, rule of law, and democracy. These are leftist fascist thugs.

 

Edit: Lol, "march for science" http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/444589/left-wingism-overtakes-march-science

 

Milo should thank the rioters, he's going to speak at Berkeley again, and his book is now #1 on Amazon.

Edited February 5, 2017 by Wrath of Dagon

[Malcador]

Have seen that definition of fascism long ago though.

 

Also what a shock to see some right winger whining about politicized science (or just protesting in general, I guess)

[Hurlshort]

 

Milo should thank the rioters, he's going to speak at Berkeley again, and his book is now #1 on Amazon.

 

 

Wait, are you under the impression that it isn't his intention to incite this these types of reactions? This is his best case scenario. 

[Wrath of Dagon]

Sure, he wants the left to show what they really are, and profits in the mean time. Edit: More on that here: http://nypost.com/2017/02/02/burning-down-berkeleys-love-of-free-speech/

 

A primer on weaponized empathy: http://thedeclination.com/more-examples-of-weaponized-empathy/

Edited February 5, 2017 by Wrath of Dagon

[Malcador]

 

Milo should thank the rioters, he's going to speak at Berkeley again, and his book is now #1 on Amazon.

 

Wait, are you under the impression that it isn't his intention to incite this these types of reactions? This is his best case scenario.

 

Yeah, it is a good racket both his fans and opponents are suckers. Provoking people works wonders...well, until someone from the latter necklaces you or something like that

[Hurlshort]

I can't imagine how bad Baldwin Trump must've been if this was the good one...

 

Huh. Well I know humor can be subjective, but I'm a bit surprised that wasn't worth at least a chuckle for you. I mean, they nailed the makeup, CNN is wearing a diaper, she pulls out a super soaker. Honestly I thought it was pretty spot on.  

[BruceVC]

http://www.10news.com/newsy/trump-signs-executive-orders-that-loosen-financial-regulations

 

 

I have been taking a completely objective view on Trump and will post both good and bad things he does, it can be hard at  times to see positive but there are several cases of very positive things the Trump presidency has done

 

He is removing some of the restrictive aspects of Dodd-Frank, not a complete repeal but there are examples of smaller banks not being able to get financial recognition  and this impacting there ability to provide loans 

 

Bernie Sanders is furious and thinks Trump is a fraud as he is now aligning and surrounding himself with very successful businessmen, he says Trump campaigned on  " taking on Wall Street " but that was just populism and should not be taken seriously 

Edited February 5, 2017 by BruceVC

[BruceVC]

 

I can't imagine how bad Baldwin Trump must've been if this was the good one...

 

Huh. Well I know humor can be subjective, but I'm a bit surprised that wasn't worth at least a chuckle for you. I mean, they nailed the makeup, CNN is wearing a diaper, she pulls out a super soaker. Honestly I thought it was pretty spot on.  

 

I cannot believe anyone wouldn't find that funny, SNL is so accurate with the overall parody 

 

And if you watch Spicer you will see the similarities 

[Hurlshort]

I mean, just look at the makeup job:

 

 Sean Spicer

 

 Melissa McCarthy as Sean Spicer

 

 Melissa McCarthy

 

Got to at least give props for that transformation.

[213374U]

Google redefines fascism: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/

 

Ugh. Who writes this tripe? Seriously, no.

 

Hitler was pro-big business, he privatised large chunks of the German economy, even more so than his surrounding economic liberal neighbors, and did his utmost to work closely -as opposed to nationalising or taking them over- with the large industrial conglomerates of the time (look up MEFO). Without the backing of wealthy patrons, he wouldn't have been able to finance his 1933 electoral campaigns to the extent he did. Read up on how the DNVP (and Alfred Hugenberg's media in particular) were basically Hitler's springboard into mainstream political success. But I guess that folks like Hjalmar Schacht, and groups like Stahlhelm and the whole DNVP were also actually leftists in disguise, because retarded contemporaneous American "pundits" need to rewrite history to accomodate their poorly crafted "no true rightist" sophisms.

 

He was also pro-military big time, having a big boner about Prussian authoritarianism and military culture, and held extreme nationalist and ethnic views that bordered on the insane, what with the Thule theories about Hyperborea subtly permeating all the nonsense about "Aryans". Totally left-wing ideology, checking all the boxes here, right?

 

But yes, he pushed for the Autobahnen and VW projects, so he was evidently a socialist. Nevermind that his goal behind that was to get the German economy back in fighting shape so he could undo the damage that jews and "cultural bolsheviks" had done to the Reich during WWI, as per Dolschstosslegende.

 

And of course he called his party "socialist" so Half-Life 3 confirmed!!1

 

Now. Did his policies have an ostensibly different effect to those of Uncle Joe next door? To the average citizen, probably not, as within a decade, both countries were totalitarian hellholes. But that's because both sought to create an all-encompassing state that was inseparable from the national culture, and in that light, any policies they may have adopted or paid lip service to were simply a means to an end, absolute power.

 

As Mussolini put it: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

Edited February 5, 2017 by 213374U

[BruceVC]

Sure, he wants the left to show what they really are, and profits in the mean time. Edit: More on that here: http://nypost.com/2017/02/02/burning-down-berkeleys-love-of-free-speech/

 

A primer on weaponized empathy: http://thedeclination.com/more-examples-of-weaponized-empathy/

WOD what is the appeal with Milo from  a Breitbart and member perspective? What do people like about him, is it how he attacks the left or something else?

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

Doubly ironic considering who they're letting into their country.

 

Interesting analyses: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/02/real-message-behind-audis-super-bowl-ad-isnt-exactly-uplifting-one/

This made me laugh quite a lot. And I thought I over interpreted things.

 

The author seems pissed that they in the end go into an expensive Audi and drive away. He sees this as representative of the upper class and they're tight grip on the lower class.

 

Had this been simply a video clip, he would be right. But this is an ad, and thus I find it perfectly reasonable for Audi to show off. And I mean you have to give it to them, the car does look great. But again.... no message aside from "we make good looking cars BUY OUR STUFF PLEASE".

 

The over interpretation of this ad also suffers from a logical error: if Audi beliefs that the upper class should always have the edge over the lower class, then why would they use that as an advertisement strategy? I'm no PR expert, but this does seem like a big middle finger towards many potential soon-to-be customers. So I don't see why they'd actually try to convey that message in an ad.

 

The author of this article seems to be te kind of person who also would think that hard right winged billionaires who lie in bed with Wall Street would be a tremendous representative for the working class. It doesn't make all to much sense when you think about it.

Bennie please summarize your view on what you think should be the most effective system of government, do you believe in Socialism or Communism?

 

Can you give me an example of a country you think the West should emulate around ideology if at all ?

Well I'd say I'm a socialist. As for what country we should emulate... well non. That's not the point... ideally, we take te best of everything. Finnish' education system, Switzerland's system of direct democracy, the US' limitations on the number of years the president can be in office, Germany's parliamentary system...

 

The most effective government is one that is completely transparent and that can be put out of power by the people anytime. I'm a fan of close to complete release of all information on governmental action, and I'm a big fan of referendums, including such ones that can put te executive out of power. You see where I'm heading at?

 

Do I believe in communism? As an utopian ideal, it is appealing. As with all utopias, it suffers from reality.

 

Talking about political realities, I think the point is to take a socialist system and correct its problems with capitalist elements. So keep a free market, but regulate it heavily, give all people free education, health insurance and a guaranteed basic unconditional income, democracy at te workplace, no inherent wealth, no owners of land, shared cars inside of cities (as opposed to private ownership), governmental participation in central markets, ....

 

I've also come to adopt many ecological standpoints.

 

Bennie you make some points I agree with and I can see the potential. If i was the final decision maker around architectural design on your ideology I would only change one or two things but before I comment what is the unemployment rate and tax rate in your system?

 

It is relevant to the objectives 

[Zoraptor]

 

Google redefines fascism: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/

 

 

But yes, he pushed for the Autobahnen and VW projects

 

 

Heh, and the VW project was basically a giant Ponzi scheme, since barely a single volk got his wagen out of all their contributions and the factories ended up producing tanks instead of cars.

 

FTR, my copy of the Concise Oxford Dictionary, published 1976, defines fascism as "..system of extreme right wing or authoritarian views". Clearly corrupted by SJWs, 41 years ago.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

The eternal jewsjw never stops.

[Volourn]

"WOD what is the appeal with Milo from  a Breitbart and member perspective? What do people like about him, is it how he attacks the left or something else?"

 

He largely tells the truth which the Left hates. Even better, he happens to be gay so the fact that he is anti SJW makes SJW Nazis get even more butthurt and they show their hatefulness even more. You know, like that article, talking about the other gay Republican, where the SJW Nazi writing it claiming that one isn't gay if they have sex with men but 'being gay' is about 'feels and stuff' simply because Leftards  just can't  understand that minorities -0 be it gay people like Milo or black Republicans like Carson - who don't drink their SJW Nazi brainwashing juice so they say hateful things about them or try to 'magically' erased their 'blackness' or their 'gayness' because in a mind of a lIbtard if you don't thinka  certain way you aren't real.

 

Don't get me wrong. Rightards are also prone to stupid asanine stuff too. But, thankfully, when Rightards do something beyond the pale they are rightly call out but not Lefttards.

 

Short version: He makes people cry and I like that.

Edited February 5, 2017 by Volourn

[BruceVC]

"WOD what is the appeal with Milo from  a Breitbart and member perspective? What do people like about him, is it how he attacks the left or something else?"

 

He largely tells the truth which the Left hates. Even better, he happens to be gay so the fact that he is anti SJW makes SJW Nazis get even more butthurt and they show their hatefulness even more. You know, like that article, talking about the other gay Republican, where the SJW Nazi writing it claiming that one isn't gay if they have sex with men but 'being gay' is about 'feels and stuff' simply because Leftards  just can't  understand that minorities -0 be it gay people like Milo or black Republicans like Carson - who don't drink their SJW Nazi brainwashing juice so they say hateful things about them or try to 'magically' erased their 'blackness' or their 'gayness' because in a mind of a lIbtard if you don't thinka  certain way you aren't real.

 

Don't get me wrong. Rightards are also prone to stupid asanine stuff too. But, thankfully, when Rightards do something beyond the pale they are rightly call out but not Lefttards.

 

Short version: He makes people cry and I like that.

What does Milo think about the rights or discrimination towards the LGBT community? Does he ever comment