The Immortal Thread

[ShadySands]

Now I want to watch the Man From Earth again

[Bartimaeus]

If you are a religious or spiritual person in any way then you probably believe you will one day see your loved ones who have passed away again. You can forget that if you're immortal.

 

What? Why? If you're of an Abrahamic religion, you believe that God will either return to Earth or end all things in some manner or another anyways. Regardless of your immortality, I think God should win here and he renders judgement unto you as he does all others. If you're Hindu or Buddhist, you'd just be allowed to keep living your one life instead of living out many different ones. I can't think of many specific faiths where you believe you really lose if you're immortal.

Edited August 15, 2016 by Bartimaeus

[ShadySands]

I never thought about it like that but I didn't really try to think of it from a religious perspective

[Gfted1]

I wouldnt want to be a poor immortal. That would suck.

[HoonDing]

That makes me think of how Alias ended.

 

 

 

The main bad guy achieved immortality.

Then promptly was buried alive under a mountain with no way to dig himself free.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-XJyk6qIos

 

 

lawd

 

Glad I stopped watching after two seasons.

[Raithe]

 

lawd

 

 

Glad I stopped watching after two seasons.

 

 

To be fair, while there was a lot of silliness in that series it did have some quite good moments. Sloane's arc was really well done for how it went from villain to redemption and back to villain again (and the reasoning behind it all).

[Heijoushin]

Guys, all I can see is: read the book "End Specialist" by Drew Magary. Best take on immortality I've ever read.

[ManifestedISO]

Geology, man. I would give anything to watch the continents drift.

[Meshugger]

Immortality would remove one of the most necessary components of what makes us human so the better question would be "Why wouldn't you like to be human?".

[ShadySands]

We're hipsters

[Gromnir]

Immortality would remove one of the most necessary components of what makes us human so the better question would be "Why wouldn't you like to be human?".

depends on our options. being human is swell and all, but if we could be a telepathic god-puma with opposable thumbs and the ability to transform discarded plastic into end-cut prime rib, we would give serious thought to discarding our humanity.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Bartimaeus]

Immortality would remove one of the most necessary components of what makes us human so the better question would be "Why wouldn't you like to be human?".

 

My first answer was, "So I don't die." But then I realized, all other things die - or at least can die - too, and so your premise is wrong to begin with.

[Guard Dog]

 

If you are a religious or spiritual person in any way then you probably believe you will one day see your loved ones who have passed away again. You can forget that if you're immortal.

 

What? Why? If you're of an Abrahamic religion, you believe that God will either return to Earth or end all things in some manner or another anyways. Regardless of your immortality, I think God should win here and he renders judgement unto you as he does all others. If you're Hindu or Buddhist, you'd just be allowed to keep living your one life instead of living out many different ones. I can't think of many specific faiths where you believe you really lose if you're immortal.

 

The answer to that is in the Gospel of John, 18:36

[Gromnir]

 

 

If you are a religious or spiritual person in any way then you probably believe you will one day see your loved ones who have passed away again. You can forget that if you're immortal.

 

What? Why? If you're of an Abrahamic religion, you believe that God will either return to Earth or end all things in some manner or another anyways. Regardless of your immortality, I think God should win here and he renders judgement unto you as he does all others. If you're Hindu or Buddhist, you'd just be allowed to keep living your one life instead of living out many different ones. I can't think of many specific faiths where you believe you really lose if you're immortal.

 

The answer to that is in the Gospel of John, 18:36

 

am suspecting that the verse in question is not about becoming a telepathic god-puma.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Guard Dog]

 

 

 

If you are a religious or spiritual person in any way then you probably believe you will one day see your loved ones who have passed away again. You can forget that if you're immortal.

 

What? Why? If you're of an Abrahamic religion, you believe that God will either return to Earth or end all things in some manner or another anyways. Regardless of your immortality, I think God should win here and he renders judgement unto you as he does all others. If you're Hindu or Buddhist, you'd just be allowed to keep living your one life instead of living out many different ones. I can't think of many specific faiths where you believe you really lose if you're immortal.

 

The answer to that is in the Gospel of John, 18:36

 

am suspecting that the verse in question is not about becoming a telepathic god-puma.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

  No but I'd like to read that one!

[ShadySands]

 

 

If you are a religious or spiritual person in any way then you probably believe you will one day see your loved ones who have passed away again. You can forget that if you're immortal.

 

What? Why? If you're of an Abrahamic religion, you believe that God will either return to Earth or end all things in some manner or another anyways. Regardless of your immortality, I think God should win here and he renders judgement unto you as he does all others. If you're Hindu or Buddhist, you'd just be allowed to keep living your one life instead of living out many different ones. I can't think of many specific faiths where you believe you really lose if you're immortal.

 

The answer to that is in the Gospel of John, 18:36

 

It's been at least 20 years since I've read the bible so please forgive me but I'm not following

Edited August 16, 2016 by ShadySands

[Guard Dog]

 

 

 

If you are a religious or spiritual person in any way then you probably believe you will one day see your loved ones who have passed away again. You can forget that if you're immortal.

 

What? Why? If you're of an Abrahamic religion, you believe that God will either return to Earth or end all things in some manner or another anyways. Regardless of your immortality, I think God should win here and he renders judgement unto you as he does all others. If you're Hindu or Buddhist, you'd just be allowed to keep living your one life instead of living out many different ones. I can't think of many specific faiths where you believe you really lose if you're immortal.

 

The answer to that is in the Gospel of John, 18:36

 

It's been at least 20 years since I've read the bible so please forgive me but I'm not following

 

"My Kingdom is not of this world". I was answering Barti's assertion that according the some interpretations of Christianity (and the other 2/3 of the big three I believe) the "world" will be remade into the kingdom of heaven at some point. Therefore if you are immortal you'll be around to see it happen. I don't subscribe to that notion myself. I believe that heaven and "the universe" are two separate things that do not conjoin at any point. Staying in one consequently means never entering the other.

 

Which was what I was saying originally.

[ShadySands]

I'm just not sure if you wouldn't just be counted among those living at such a time of a rapture/second coming type event

 

We need a rules lawyer for this

Edited August 16, 2016 by ShadySands

[Guard Dog]

Well, I like KP's notion of immortality being a Highlander-esque sword fight playoff. Unless you suck at sword fighting. Then you wouldn't be around long.

 

My luck though I'd probably slip off a doggone ladder while trimming the trees with a chain saw and cut my own head off. 

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Well, I like KP's notion of immortality being a Highlander-esque sword fight playoff. Unless you suck at sword fighting. Then you wouldn't be around long.

 

My luck though I'd probably slip off a doggone ladder while trimming the trees with a chain saw and cut my own head off.

 

I'll use my SKS to slow them down and chop their heads off when they're wounded so I don't need sword skills. Although I suppose I'd absorb them after a while.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Immortality would remove one of the most necessary components of what makes us human so the better question would be "Why wouldn't you like to be human?".

 

"Who wouldn't hollow out their humanity to become a transcendent god-monster" is probably an even better question, Gromnir's tongue-in-cheek interpretation aside.

Edited August 16, 2016 by aluminiumtrioxid

[Guard Dog]

 

Well, I like KP's notion of immortality being a Highlander-esque sword fight playoff. Unless you suck at sword fighting. Then you wouldn't be around long.

 

My luck though I'd probably slip off a doggone ladder while trimming the trees with a chain saw and cut my own head off.

I'll use my SKS to slow them down and chop their heads off when they're wounded so I don't need sword skills. Although I suppose I'd absorb them after a while.

 

  Following me around on tree-trimming day, waiting for nature to take it's course won't teach you a thing about fluid mechanics, soil chemistry or how to design a wireless network!

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

Well, I like KP's notion of immortality being a Highlander-esque sword fight playoff. Unless you suck at sword fighting. Then you wouldn't be around long.

 

My luck though I'd probably slip off a doggone ladder while trimming the trees with a chain saw and cut my own head off.

 

I'll use my SKS to slow them down and chop their heads off when they're wounded so I don't need sword skills. Although I suppose I'd absorb them after a while.

  Following me around on tree-trimming day, waiting for nature to take it's course won't teach you a thing about fluid mechanics, soil chemistry or how to design a wireless network!

Absorbing your lightning will.

[Hurlshort]

This reminds me of an episode of Highlander where a kid had become immortal, but he had been using people's sympathy for centuries to manipulate people into fighting for him, and then he would kill them when they were vulnerable.

[Meshugger]

 

Immortality would remove one of the most necessary components of what makes us human so the better question would be "Why wouldn't you like to be human?".

 

"Who wouldn't hollow out their humanity to become a transcendent god-monster" is probably an even better question, Gromnir's tongue-in-cheek interpretation aside.

 

 

That got me thinking a bit.

 

Lets say for arguments sake that it is achieved. First, we would have to stop reproducing since no one can die, but that's not possible because people like sex and not everyone fancies abortions. It will be diminished to a degree, sure, but not entirely. Then since there is no death or health problems really, and the healthcare industry will fall apart. After that people will not bother to work since they cannot starve to death either so the economy will fall apart too. Classical notions of love will also evaporate because no need for a man to protect his woman with his life and the woman will not have babies. Culture will stagnate as there will be no restlesness to achieve something before you die. Wars and violence in a classical sense will disappear as no one can get hurt or die. People will entertain themselves with their god-powers until there's nothing left to do but explore space and we become intergalactical locusts that do nothing but expand until the end of time, eradicating everything in its path. When everything is discovered and known we become bored again and realize that perhaps we need to come together and create the best entertainment ever known. So all man, all knowledge and all technology come together, conduct what needs to be done and says:

 

"Let there be light!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"ok, ok, i got inspired by Asimov, sue me"

Edited August 16, 2016 by Meshugger