Guard Dog Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 There is another good reason for Sanders to keep going. If Hillary ends up getting indicted (not likely but not impossible) he will be the lone horse in the race. Don't think that hasn't crossed his mind. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Chance of winning based on the current UK betting markets: The same betting markets that offered 5000:1 for Leicester winning the Premiere League 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Chance of winning based on the current UK betting markets:The same betting markets that offered 5000:1 for Leicester winning the Premiere League Heh! Even long shots can win, right? That's exactly why some people should take that 5,000 to 1! 1 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Chance of winning based on the current UK betting markets:The same betting markets that offered 5000:1 for Leicester winning the Premiere League Heh! Even long shots can win, right? That's exactly why some people should take that 5,000 to 1! Place a bet on the behalf of the forum on Joe Biden. If he wins, then use the money for the next Obsidian kickstarter. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Good sir, it is not legal in California to engage in gambling activities, and especially so if it relates to Presidential Elections. That is a federal offense! "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 http://www.hulu.com/watch/895509 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Good sir, it is not legal in California to engage in gambling activities, and especially so if it relates to Presidential Elections. That is a federal offense! In no sense did i suggest any engagement in any illegal activities, my good sir. I was only musing in hypothetical scenarios that only ruffians make their acquaintence to. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/27/donald-trump-rejects-false-song-globalism-nationalist-foreign-policy-speech-2/ “We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism,” the billionaire stressed. “Under a Trump Administration, no American citizen will ever again feel that their needs come second to the citizens of foreign countries.” Oh dear, the guy is going to have an assissination attempt on him in the near future. The assassin will be of course a mentally ill Cruz-supporter who thinks that Trump has betrayed God and the constitution for his views on transexuals in the bathroom. //edit: I do smell a slight calculated move to appeal to Bernie supporters there. Edited April 27, 2016 by Meshugger 2 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/27/donald-trump-rejects-false-song-globalism-nationalist-foreign-policy-speech-2/ “We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism,” the billionaire stressed. “Under a Trump Administration, no American citizen will ever again feel that their needs come second to the citizens of foreign countries.” Oh dear, the guy is going to have an assissination attempt on him in the near future. The assassin will be of course a mentally ill Cruz-supporter who thinks that Trump has betrayed God and the constitution for his views on transexuals in the bathroom. //edit: I do smell a slight calculated move to appeal to Bernie supporters there. Question is will Trump continue his fight against globalism with continuing to producing his company's goods in Mexico and China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/27/donald-trump-rejects-false-song-globalism-nationalist-foreign-policy-speech-2/ “We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism,” the billionaire stressed. “Under a Trump Administration, no American citizen will ever again feel that their needs come second to the citizens of foreign countries.” Oh dear, the guy is going to have an assissination attempt on him in the near future. The assassin will be of course a mentally ill Cruz-supporter who thinks that Trump has betrayed God and the constitution for his views on transexuals in the bathroom. //edit: I do smell a slight calculated move to appeal to Bernie supporters there. While my jury is out on whether Trump is sincere or not, I have zero doubt there will be some very serious attempts to off him if he is. This is one of a few reasons I'm hoping he doesn't pick an establishment VP. I hope he's smarter than Reagan was. Edited April 27, 2016 by Valsuelm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Someone needs to squeeze him on what 'rebuilding' the US military actually entails and what is broken with it right now that prevents it from doing its work. As for changing US policy to serve US interests, that seems like no change at all ? And caring about how people "feel" ? Trump's a SJW! D'oh missed the transcript link. Odd to read. But ok, was as expected the US military is too small, using B-52s, etc. That section on rivals is rather amusing as well. Cuba, Saudi Arabia Edited April 27, 2016 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/27/donald-trump-rejects-false-song-globalism-nationalist-foreign-policy-speech-2/ “We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism,” the billionaire stressed. “Under a Trump Administration, no American citizen will ever again feel that their needs come second to the citizens of foreign countries.” Oh dear, the guy is going to have an assissination attempt on him in the near future. The assassin will be of course a mentally ill Cruz-supporter who thinks that Trump has betrayed God and the constitution for his views on transexuals in the bathroom. //edit: I do smell a slight calculated move to appeal to Bernie supporters there. Question is will Trump continue his fight against globalism with continuing to producing his company's goods in Mexico and China? If he's sincere, yes. Trump's a businessman. Unfortunately due to NAFTA and some other 'free trade' agreements coupled with the taxes levied to support our massive 'welfare state' and a long list of costly regulations it's a no-brainer for many businesses (particularly manufacturing) to ship jobs to other countries. So much a no-brainer in many cases that it's either do that or die. I've spoken to a few folks at a couple different companies who were involved in the decision making process to close a plant in the US, and ship it overseas. While I've no doubt the proverbial heartless CEOs do exist aplenty, the folks I spoke with were torn in no small way at deciding to do what they did. They didn't want to send those jobs elsewhere, but to stay competitive in their business (or even in business at all) it was something that had to be done. I had one guy I sat next to on a flight who worked for a company that made fire extinguishers give me the math on the difference in cost to produce in China vs the cost to produce in California (where the company had been based for decades). This was years ago so I don't remember the exact numbers. but it was truly astounding how comparatively inexpensive it was to send parts to China to be assembled and then have the product shipped back to the U.S.. Another guy I know is the CEO of a more than 200 year old local company with an international presence that is the last in the U.S. to produce what they make. Their biggest competition is in China from companies that used to produce in the U.S., and his father (the former CEO) is often down in D.C. lobbying people in congress to change various 'free trade' policies so they can avoid closing their plant and moving operations overseas. They very much want to stay in the U.S. but I'm told that in the long run they may not be able to if current 'free trade' conditions persist. There's a lot of businessmen and businesses that are anti 'free trade', that ultimately end up shipping jobs overseas because of it. One of the greatest lies perpetrated on the people of various nations is that 'free trade' is good for them. Within a nation it certainly is, but internationally it has varying costs and benefits. It is not uncommon for the ultimate cons to far outweigh the pros, especially when one nation has a higher standard of living and greater labor costs than another. Historically and in modern times 'free trade' has generally only benefited the very upper class. The blue bloods, the robber barons, and oligarchs who have in modern times essentially bought and paid for most of the politicians at the national level of most if not all western nations. One thing I like about Trump, is he is one of the only people to ever run for President (or anything else on the national level) in the last few decades to even say 'free trade' is a problem, let alone the big one that it is. Most candidates have always bent down to worship the genitals of the 'free trade' oligarchs. It was the biggest problem I had with Ron Paul. A guy who I liked for his principles and philosophy, but who fell far short pragmatically on the two issues Trump has made the foundation of his platform: immigration and 'free trade'. Anyways, to sum up, good businessmen are going to do what is best for their business, whether they like it or not. Pragmatism rules the day in the business world. There are oodles of BS governmental rules, regulations, etc that benefit some business decisions and punish others. In short, the U.S. Federal government policies for many decades has created a business atmosphere where the smart business decision for many companies is to ship many jobs overseas. Just because they do so, doesn't mean they really wanted to, or agree with the government policies that created the situation that caused them to make the decision to send those jobs overseas. Edited April 27, 2016 by Valsuelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 TRUMP: Secondly, we have to rebuild our military and our economy. The Russians and Chinese have rapidly expanded their military capability, but look at what’s happened to us. Our nuclear weapons arsenal, our ultimate deterrent, has been allowed to atrophy and is desperately in need of modernization and renewal. And it has to happen immediately. Our active duty armed forces have shrunk from 2 million in 1991 to about 1.3 million today. The Navy has shrunk from over 500 ships to 272 ships during this same period of time. The Air Force is about one-third smaller than 1991. Pilots flying B-52s in combat missions today. These planes are older than virtually everybody in this room. Rebuilding the military does not necessarily mean increasing manpower to pre-1993 levels. You achieve the same ends by reducing the operational tempo and deployment commitments and at the same time same money for weapons development. If it were me rather than rebuilding a military designed to fight major WWII style battles I'd focus on streamlining and rapid reaction/high mobility forces augmented by increased unmanned, airborne and naval assets. Unless we see another world wide conflict I believe heavy infantry and armor are going the way of the Greek Phalanx. But where we do need to rebuild and see a change of vision is the intelligence services. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Huffpost Sanders supporter asks the FBI nicely to indict Hillary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Pilots are really flying B-52's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Yeah they are still around "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Yes, there are 70 something still in service Agiel would probably know better Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Pilots are really flying B-52's? Yup, been through many revisions and expected to be used for another 10-20 years I think. Age isn't everything, people still use AK-47s and 74s to good effect and other stuff is 'old' in the military space. Guess the 52s are somewhat costly to fly, though. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 In terms of lift vs payload capacity only the C5 Galaxy has it beat. And it's just a cargo plane. A really... really big one. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Ugly man announces ugly woman as his choice for VP Ugly woman says ugly man will say anything to get elected, before she literally sings her praise of him. True beauty or lack of it is on the inside, of course. Edited April 28, 2016 by Valsuelm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 In terms of lift vs payload capacity only the C5 Galaxy has it beat. And it's just a cargo plane. A really... really big one. They need to make a AC-5 gunship :D Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-love-why-kremlin-backs-trump-132620811.html?ref=gs You know any candidate has a serious problem around credibility when Putin supports them unreservedly, I was watching a news clip on CNN and they were interviewing people on the streets of Moscow. People were saying things like " we think Trump is a wise and bold leader " ....apparently Russia is the ONLY country where most people, outside the USA, see Trump in a favorable light "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-love-why-kremlin-backs-trump-132620811.html?ref=gs You know any candidate has a serious problem around credibility when Putin supports them unreservedly, I was watching a news clip on CNN and they were interviewing people on the streets of Moscow. People were saying things like " we think Trump is a wise and bold leader " ....apparently Russia is the ONLY country where most people, outside the USA, see Trump in a favorable light Completely meaningless argument unless you can provide reasons in themselves why anyone should take heed of what the people of Paris or Berlin thinks over what the people of the streets of Moscow say. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-love-why-kremlin-backs-trump-132620811.html?ref=gs You know any candidate has a serious problem around credibility when Putin supports them unreservedly, I was watching a news clip on CNN and they were interviewing people on the streets of Moscow. People were saying things like " we think Trump is a wise and bold leader " ....apparently Russia is the ONLY country where most people, outside the USA, see Trump in a favorable light Completely meaningless argument unless you can provide reasons in themselves why anyone should take heed of what the people of Paris or Berlin thinks over what the people of the streets of Moscow say. Not meaningless at all. Its actually quite simple because its about the reality of how well a certain leader has done in running a country overall Putin has a very high approval rating in Russia yet the Russian economy is in a recession and Putin has mismanaged economic growth....yet he is still popular So if the average Russian citizen thinks Putin is a great leader and they think Trump is a good leader they either don't understand or care about economic metrics and how they reflect on a leaders true success So in summary if your economy is in a recession this is a bad thing, it doesn't matter if you have a strong military or if you control the domestic media narrative and the citizens "think you great " or " its the fault of the West for our financial situation " This is about the economic reality of any country and how the citizens hold there leaders responsible for that economic reality "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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