HBO Game of Thrones Season 6!

[Ganrich]

 

 

Gendry have same status as Jon now soo.. he is still posibility

 

 

All who would confirm are dead though, those who can and are alive won't.

 

He doesnt have to be confirmed as King on Iron Throne, but he still is last Baratheon, so he can be used as ally

Another interesting fact is House Baratheon was started with Orys Baratheon. He was rumored to be the bastard brother of Aegon the Conqueror. He married the daughter of the last Durrandon who were also called the Storm Kings (who were the Lord's of Storm's End prior). It is possible that Gendry could reset House Baratheon by the story's end and have some symmetry.

[Nonek]

I also thought that the North might well be permanently removed from southern Westeros by the Children (or Bran) completing their ancient ritual, and the Freys thus having a measure of revenge enacted against them when they died amid their crumbling towers. Shows how far from the authors imaginings I usually am.

[majestic]

I always thought from the way that the books were handling the character that Cersei would live a long life, broken, miserable, probably mad and a pariah to every individual in Westeros. I may be mistaken however.

 

The books contain a clear prophecy (part of which made it to the show) of her having three children and all of them dying before she does, with a younger and more beautiful queen coming to cast her down - which now really seems to be Danaerys rather than Sansa or Margery, at least in the show - and her little brother eventually choking the life from her.

 

No, wait, the little brother part is a bit murky because it states the little brother. So it could be anyone's little brother, but assuming it is going to be Jaime isn't really that far of a stretch, seeing how in the books he already abandoned her and he teleported back to King's Landing just in time to witness how much she resembles someone he already stabbed in the back.

[HoonDing]

[Longknife]

D&D apparently confirmed 15 episodes "at max" remaining.

Honestly that seems a bit low. With that many remaining I wonder if the White Walkers won't win.

[Zoraptor]

Meh, the show is still good if you turn your brain off now and don't look for consistency, but outstripping the books has crippled the consistency. It isn't just the fast travel either, things like the Frey Pies, how does that entire sequence even work (see below)? To be frank, most of this season has felt like the showrunners trying to burn through pare down the cast list pretty arbitrarily and top the Red Wedding while shovelling people around with no thought to logic. We had the Martell Purge, the Bolton Purge*, the Frey Purge and the King's Landing Purge in a single season. Could add the Dothraki Purge as well, though they were at least wholly, er, disposable characters. If we do include them though then that's one purge every second episode. Without book comparison it's difficult to tell but I again suspect it's that non existent 5 year gap partly to blame, to be fair.

 

The consistency problem is also best epitomised by the extended Frey Pies sequence. Arya is stabbed in the gut, recovers via will to life and penicillin tea (no wait, that's Arrow jumping the shark) does parkour, escapes and gets to the Freys probably via fast travel again, kills off Walder's offspring (presumably not all of them since there are like 32 or something, and at least one is a baby in the books) then butchers them and bakes the pies without anybody noticing plus uses a superpower that so far as we knew she didn't actually have and never learnt then serves pies to Walder at the one time we ever (?) see him alone in the entire series. The whole thing is done primarily to be 'cool' and 'edgy' fanservice, to be brutally frank I'd expect that from a rebellious14 year old's fanfiction or worse, a _chan parody.

 

*least offensive, least 'lazy' and least purgey for the sake of it, though Ramsay was... not entirely credible as a character and the political situation in the north was grossly simplified. I hope Roose feeds Ramsay to his dogs in the books, he's a far more believable bad guy.

 

I am now interested if Jamie finally realise his sister is mad b*tch and turn back on her, maybe join Jon

 

He's the favourite to kill Cersei. But he's not going to join Jon- or Dany for that matter- and if he does the shark has not just been jumped, it's been hopped and skipped too. Leaving aside that he's a Lannister, had his demon spawn on the throne and had been boffing his sister he attacked Ned, killed lots of northmen and chucked Bran out a window, and murdered (ok, 'murdered') Dany's father. Fan favouritism seems to bestow magical powers in TV land, but not that magical.

 

Jaime's endgame is either death or (my favoured bet) Nightswatch, possibly as LC. Latter would certainly have the required Dramatic Irony.

[ShadySands]

D&D apparently confirmed 15 episodes "at max" remaining.

 

Honestly that seems a bit low. With that many remaining I wonder if the White Walkers won't win.

They won't wrap anything up and in the last episode we'll find out it was a dream all along

[Vaeliorin]

Nah, in the last episode Dunc will somehow inexplicably end up king.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(I'm kidding, of course. I've never seen the show, and only got about halfway through the first book before it made me start grabbing people by the collar, envisioning them as Martin, and shaking them while screaming "Pick a point of view and stick with it for more than 5 pages, goddammit!"

 

I do like the Dunc and Egg stories, though.)

Edited June 28, 2016 by Vaeliorin

[ShadySands]

I don't even know who that is

 

...as someone who has only seen the show and not read the books

[Vaeliorin]

I don't even know who that is

 

...as someone who has only seen the show and not read the books

Martin wrote several short stories starring a knight named Duncan and Aegon Targaryen, but I don't know how exactly they relate time-wise to the main books/show.

[Ganrich]

 

I don't even know who that is

 

...as someone who has only seen the show and not read the books

Martin wrote several short stories starring a knight named Duncan and Aegon Targaryen, but I don't know how exactly they relate time-wise to the main books/show.

It's about 70 years prior to Robert's rebellion. Dunc escorts Master Aemon and Brynden Rivers (the guy in the tree that was teaching Bran) to the wall in one iirc.

 

Edit: Just looked it up to be sure, and it is around 90 years before the War of the Five Kings in the books/show. Robert's Rebellion was 15ish years prior which means Dunk and Egg's stories occurred a little more than 70 years prior.

Edited June 29, 2016 by Ganrich

[Chilloutman]

I am now interested if Jamie finally realise his sister is mad b*tch and turn back on her, maybe join Jon

 

He's the favourite to kill Cersei. But he's not going to join Jon- or Dany for that matter- and if he does the shark has not just been jumped, it's been hopped and skipped too. Leaving aside that he's a Lannister, had his demon spawn on the throne and had been boffing his sister he attacked Ned, killed lots of northmen and chucked Bran out a window, and murdered (ok, 'murdered') Dany's father. Fan favouritism seems to bestow magical powers in TV land, but not that magical.

 

Jaime's endgame is either death or (my favoured bet) Nightswatch, possibly as LC. Latter would certainly have the required Dramatic Irony.

 

Yeah Jamie in Nightwatch is what I meant by joining Jon. At this point everyone killed someone in someones family. What bothers me more is that noone told Jon or Sansa that it was Little Finger who actually 'killed' old Stark. If I recall it was not that secret

[Oner]

The consistency problem is also best epitomised by the extended Frey Pies sequence. Arya is stabbed in the gut, recovers via will to life and penicillin tea (no wait, that's Arrow jumping the shark) does parkour, escapes and gets to the Freys probably via fast travel again, kills off Walder's offspring (presumably not all of them since there are like 32 or something, and at least one is a baby in the books) then butchers them and bakes the pies without anybody noticing plus uses a superpower that so far as we knew she didn't actually have and never learnt then serves pies to Walder at the one time we ever (?) see him alone in the entire series. The whole thing is done primarily to be 'cool' and 'edgy' fanservice, to be brutally frank I'd expect that from a rebellious14 year old's fanfiction or worse, a _chan parody.

I felt bad for poor Maisie, she's making the psycho face to convey some character every time she makes a kill, but people only notice how zomg badass Arya is.

[Maedhros]

Egg and Dunk would make for a great HBO miniseries after Game of Thrones is over.

[BruceVC]

Oh my hat the final episode was brilliant   

 

Cersei Lannister takes the cake as one of the most diabolical  villians IMO, I cannot believe she massacred everyone in that Alchemists Wildfire attack !!!

 

And the fate of that one women being left to the cruel sexual deprivations of the Mountain  ( that must be a fate worse than death )

 

But Daenerys Stormborn ( my favorite female character ) is coming to reclaim her throne  ....there will be a reckoning 

[Leferd]

The Dunk and Egg stories were recently collected into a really nice illustrated hardcover edition last year. Definitely recommend picking it up.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Seven-Kingdoms-Song-Fire/dp/0345533488/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467293729&sr=1-1&keywords=knight+of+the+seven+kingdoms

[Lexx]

What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something?

[Chilloutman]

What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something?

 

didnt get that as well

[Guard Dog]

The Dunk and Egg stories were recently collected into a really nice illustrated hardcover edition last year. Definitely recommend picking it up.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Seven-Kingdoms-Song-Fire/dp/0345533488/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467293729&sr=1-1&keywords=knight+of+the+seven+kingdoms

Thanks for the info... I didn't know this existed. And in two days it will be waiting for me at the Covington Post Office.

[Leferd]

 

 

The Dunk and Egg stories were recently collected into a really nice illustrated hardcover edition last year. Definitely recommend picking it up.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Seven-Kingdoms-Song-Fire/dp/0345533488/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467293729&sr=1-1&keywords=knight+of+the+seven+kingdoms

Thanks for the info... I didn't know this existed. And in two days it will be waiting for me at the Covington Post Office.

Nice!

 

Gary Gianni is a fantastic artist. His Conan work was really impressive, and he did a great job depicting Westeros.

 

Now, if only Martin and his publishers can commission Justin Sweet to do the same for ASOIAF...

[Oner]

What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something?

Supposedly that's the implication but well.. he just kind of grabbed her hand or something and started squeezing really hard I guess?

He's a zombie, what's he gonna do?

[Zoraptor]

If he's a traditional zombie then eating her brains would be appropriate, I guess?

 

But he's Zombie Gregor and it's GoT; you're pretty clearly meant to think he's going to do what Gregor's known for. At least it isn't as cheap a shock as many this season due to Gregor's history and nature being well established.

[WDeranged]

Yeah I totally got a rapey vibe during that scene, here's to zombie rape! 

[BruceVC]

Yeah I totally got a rapey vibe during that scene, here's to zombie rape! 

 

What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something?

Yes he did rape her....and the rape would have lasted  days 

 

But his character seems different to the books, in the TV series  he seems to have more sentience after he is resurrected 

 

So he would be capable of an erection in the series making this punishment by Cersei particularly vile and repugnant 

[Longknife]

WTF why are people thinking it was rape?

He doesn't speak, he doesn't seem to feel, he doesn't seem to think much. He's some sort of zombie abomination now, Cersei just got done basically torturing her, and then Cersei walks out of the room, we IMMEDIATELY hear screams, and you guys discern the guy in big heavy armor with (seemingly) no brain to his name must be raping her rather than torturing her?

 

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