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I'm curious who the lead plaintiff would be.

 

EA's stock is 99% owned by financial corporations and placed into things like RRSP mutual funds and so forth. Part of me has a hard time believing any of them would be a part of a class suit like this (I don't even know if a company can join a class action suit), but I could be wrong?

Well corporations are now considered people so maybe they can be part in a suit. Sill they probably need a court representative, although I'm not sure if the right to face one's accuser extend to corporations as a whole or whether they need to disclose the names of board members.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

 

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

 

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

Well, you weren't around so we had to do with what was available.

 

I know of Citizens United granting them the same rights as individuals, had you something else in mind. Come on now man! Do some lawyering or else us amateurs are going to keep speculating.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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I'm curious who the lead plaintiff would be.

 

EA's stock is 99% owned by financial corporations and placed into things like RRSP mutual funds and so forth. Part of me has a hard time believing any of them would be a part of a class suit like this (I don't even know if a company can join a class action suit), but I could be wrong?

The thing that seems weird to me is that they're suing on behalf of shareholders the entity in which the shareholders have shares. So if they win the shareholders... get paid their own money, in effect, plus devalue their own shares?

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Well I have now lost all my optimism regarding the legal system...**** them rich folk!

Next thing you know you'll be pirating games for the sake of communism. Stop this at once! If it were't for rich people, there wouldn't be any order, progress and civilization! Rich people care about you, they pay you their money, etc.

 

 

Now is the time to abolish democracy and replace it with our aristocratic cabal of philosopher kings. I can tell it, the time is now nigh!......

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

 

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

 

True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even.

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

 

Well, you weren't around so we had to do with what was available.

I know of Citizens United granting them the same rights as individuals, had you something else in mind. Come on now man! Do some lawyering or else us amateurs are going to keep speculating.

Look up legal personality. I cba to look into the specifics of class actions, especially as this appears to be based on lex specialis. Hopefully one of my American colleagues will know more about the particulars, of there are some limitations in the act.

 

Short version, a corporation is (and has been for a long time) a person in the eyes of the court, hence retarded decisions like giving them absurd "rights" based on it, too.

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

 

 

True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even.

Hardly, it's a necessity. You couldn't sue a corporation that fails to deliver if it didn't have legal personality.

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(I'm surprised to see some people here so concerned about EA's stockholders)

 

 

I am a stock holder in EA

 

 

Surprising isn't it?

 

Shhh, you'll blow your cover.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

Well, you weren't around so we had to do with what was available.

I know of Citizens United granting them the same rights as individuals, had you something else in mind. Come on now man! Do some lawyering or else us amateurs are going to keep speculating.

Look up legal personality. I cba to look into the specifics of class actions, especially as this appears to be based on lex specialis. Hopefully one of my American colleagues will know more about the particulars, of there are some limitations in the act.

 

Short version, a corporation is (and has been for a long time) a person in the eyes of the court, hence retarded decisions like giving them absurd "rights" based on it, too.

 

Ok, I just finished some brushing up on the subject and you were right. It's apparently been going on (at least in the US) from as early as 1938.

Also there has been precedent of corporations suing each other, so in my amateur opinion this will likely go to court unless they settle.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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Saw this link on RPS, about trying to get Kingdom Come financed http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog&entry=blog_031&lang=en To me it's a great idea, I've wanted a historical RPG forever, although as someone said to them it probably wouldn't do well in America, since no one cares about history. They should start by coming up with a better name though.

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Saw this link on RPS, about trying to get Kingdom Come financed http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog&entry=blog_031&lang=en To me it's a great idea, I've wanted a historical RPG forever, although as someone said to them it probably wouldn't do well in America, since no one cares about history. They should start by coming up with a better name though.

I hope they nerf the English longbowman.

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

 

True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even.

Hardly, it's a necessity. You couldn't sue a corporation that fails to deliver if it didn't have legal personality.

 

 

Exactly. Then you sue the CEO, chairman of the board or whatnot. Meaning the one that bares the top responsibility instead. Make the paradigm switch to the very individuals that make the decisions of the corporations behalf.

"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

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Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful.

Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that.

True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even.

Hardly, it's a necessity. You couldn't sue a corporation that fails to deliver if it didn't have legal personality.

Exactly. Then you sue the CEO, chairman of the board or whatnot. Meaning the one that bares the top responsibility instead. Make the paradigm switch to the very individuals that make the decisions of the corporations behalf.

I believe that's exactly the reason corporations were created, to insulate those involved in the business from criminal or financial liability.

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The name is brilliant.

 

"Kingdom Come: Deliverance- it'll make you squeal like a pig"! Best tagline since John Romero was at iD.

Heh, I forgot about that.

 

 

I believe that's exactly the reason corporations were created, to insulate those involved in the business from criminal or financial liability.

Well, financial liability, not so much criminal.
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I believe that's exactly the reason corporations were created, to insulate those involved in the business from criminal or financial liability.

Well, financial liability, not so much criminal.

Exactly, especially in systems without bankruptcy for "natural persons" (like Finland), you'd have no entrepreneurship due to the extra risks involved.

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Heh. Something I've noticed is that Amazon UK has been slowly increasing the price of AC: Black Flag over the past week or so. Every few days they've been adding another 50pence or so. Now it's up to £31.99. Wonder if there's any specific reason for that.

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Heh. Something I've noticed is that Amazon UK has been slowly increasing the price of AC: Black Flag over the past week or so. Every few days they've been adding another 50pence or so. Now it's up to £31.99. Wonder if there's any specific reason for that.

Increased demand over Christmas? 

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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