Orogun01 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I'm curious who the lead plaintiff would be. EA's stock is 99% owned by financial corporations and placed into things like RRSP mutual funds and so forth. Part of me has a hard time believing any of them would be a part of a class suit like this (I don't even know if a company can join a class action suit), but I could be wrong? Well corporations are now considered people so maybe they can be part in a suit. Sill they probably need a court representative, although I'm not sure if the right to face one's accuser extend to corporations as a whole or whether they need to disclose the names of board members. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. Edited December 22, 2013 by Nepenthe 1 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. Well, you weren't around so we had to do with what was available. I know of Citizens United granting them the same rights as individuals, had you something else in mind. Come on now man! Do some lawyering or else us amateurs are going to keep speculating. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I'm curious who the lead plaintiff would be. EA's stock is 99% owned by financial corporations and placed into things like RRSP mutual funds and so forth. Part of me has a hard time believing any of them would be a part of a class suit like this (I don't even know if a company can join a class action suit), but I could be wrong? The thing that seems weird to me is that they're suing on behalf of shareholders the entity in which the shareholders have shares. So if they win the shareholders... get paid their own money, in effect, plus devalue their own shares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Well I have now lost all my optimism regarding the legal system...**** them rich folk! Next thing you know you'll be pirating games for the sake of communism. Stop this at once! If it were't for rich people, there wouldn't be any order, progress and civilization! Rich people care about you, they pay you their money, etc. Now is the time to abolish democracy and replace it with our aristocratic cabal of philosopher kings. I can tell it, the time is now nigh!...... .... ... .. . Sorry, wrong forum. Please ignore that. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. Well, you weren't around so we had to do with what was available.I know of Citizens United granting them the same rights as individuals, had you something else in mind. Come on now man! Do some lawyering or else us amateurs are going to keep speculating. Look up legal personality. I cba to look into the specifics of class actions, especially as this appears to be based on lex specialis. Hopefully one of my American colleagues will know more about the particulars, of there are some limitations in the act. Short version, a corporation is (and has been for a long time) a person in the eyes of the court, hence retarded decisions like giving them absurd "rights" based on it, too. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even. Hardly, it's a necessity. You couldn't sue a corporation that fails to deliver if it didn't have legal personality. 2 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK222 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (I'm surprised to see some people here so concerned about EA's stockholders) I am a stock holder in EA Surprising isn't it? Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (I'm surprised to see some people here so concerned about EA's stockholders) I am a stock holder in EA Surprising isn't it? Shhh, you'll blow your cover. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. Well, you weren't around so we had to do with what was available.I know of Citizens United granting them the same rights as individuals, had you something else in mind. Come on now man! Do some lawyering or else us amateurs are going to keep speculating. Look up legal personality. I cba to look into the specifics of class actions, especially as this appears to be based on lex specialis. Hopefully one of my American colleagues will know more about the particulars, of there are some limitations in the act. Short version, a corporation is (and has been for a long time) a person in the eyes of the court, hence retarded decisions like giving them absurd "rights" based on it, too. Ok, I just finished some brushing up on the subject and you were right. It's apparently been going on (at least in the US) from as early as 1938. Also there has been precedent of corporations suing each other, so in my amateur opinion this will likely go to court unless they settle. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serrano Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Free FTL expansion out soon, new race, ship configs and weapons being added Edited December 22, 2013 by Serrano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Saw this link on RPS, about trying to get Kingdom Come financed http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog&entry=blog_031&lang=en To me it's a great idea, I've wanted a historical RPG forever, although as someone said to them it probably wouldn't do well in America, since no one cares about history. They should start by coming up with a better name though. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The name is brilliant. "Kingdom Come: Deliverance- it'll make you squeal like a pig"! Best tagline since John Romero was at iD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Saw this link on RPS, about trying to get Kingdom Come financed http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog&entry=blog_031&lang=en To me it's a great idea, I've wanted a historical RPG forever, although as someone said to them it probably wouldn't do well in America, since no one cares about history. They should start by coming up with a better name though. I hope they nerf the English longbowman. 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even. Hardly, it's a necessity. You couldn't sue a corporation that fails to deliver if it didn't have legal personality. Exactly. Then you sue the CEO, chairman of the board or whatnot. Meaning the one that bares the top responsibility instead. Make the paradigm switch to the very individuals that make the decisions of the corporations behalf. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Please stop the amateur lawyering, it's painful. Corporations having legal personality is nothing "new", let's leave it at that. True, but it is immoral. Repulsive even. Hardly, it's a necessity. You couldn't sue a corporation that fails to deliver if it didn't have legal personality. Exactly. Then you sue the CEO, chairman of the board or whatnot. Meaning the one that bares the top responsibility instead. Make the paradigm switch to the very individuals that make the decisions of the corporations behalf. I believe that's exactly the reason corporations were created, to insulate those involved in the business from criminal or financial liability. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManifestedISO Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I see code pink has mentality members all over the world. All Stop. On Screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The name is brilliant. "Kingdom Come: Deliverance- it'll make you squeal like a pig"! Best tagline since John Romero was at iD. Heh, I forgot about that. I believe that's exactly the reason corporations were created, to insulate those involved in the business from criminal or financial liability.Well, financial liability, not so much criminal. 1 "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK222 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I see code pink has mentality members all over the world. Those damn commies. Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bester Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The name is brilliant. "Kingdom Come: Deliverance- It's the kind of name I'd expect to be used for a porn film. Two sex references in one name, both clear as day. IE Mod for Pillars of Eternity: link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I believe that's exactly the reason corporations were created, to insulate those involved in the business from criminal or financial liability.Well, financial liability, not so much criminal. Exactly, especially in systems without bankruptcy for "natural persons" (like Finland), you'd have no entrepreneurship due to the extra risks involved. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Heh. Something I've noticed is that Amazon UK has been slowly increasing the price of AC: Black Flag over the past week or so. Every few days they've been adding another 50pence or so. Now it's up to £31.99. Wonder if there's any specific reason for that. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Heh. Something I've noticed is that Amazon UK has been slowly increasing the price of AC: Black Flag over the past week or so. Every few days they've been adding another 50pence or so. Now it's up to £31.99. Wonder if there's any specific reason for that. Increased demand over Christmas? I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeOcelot Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I've seen the price go up incrementally as the stock goes down. They have said in the past they use algorithms to automatically adjust prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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