Morgoth Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Looks pretty awesome. I always enjoyed Starbreeze products. Never played the old Syndicate games, so I'll just treat this as a new IP (same with XCOM). Oh yeah, and please spare us all the whining this time please? Let's keep the discussion to the reboot, and for what it is, namely a SHOOTER Shooter shooter shooter.... Rain makes everything better.
Nepenthe Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) Meh, on one hand I'm sorta happy about getting more cyberpunk, OTOH I don't get these reanimated franchises - if you are trying to kiss up to the old crowd, why make it fundamentally different in gameplay? Or is it to cater to the gaming hipster crowd, the ones who go around claiming how DXHR is vastly inferior to the original, because it's worse in the imaginary ways of x, y and z (that quite ably demonstrate that the person talking about the game has never played it). Maybe EA is cynical enough to assume that they won't even remember that Syndicate wasn't an FPS. Edited September 11, 2011 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Morgoth Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 I've seen worse reanimations. I mean, Starbreeze making a shooter? They make a game within the genre of their expertise? How could they? Blawablawah... etc. No seriously, it makes sense. 'Cause it will guarantee lots of heaty discussions and b-hurt, thus contributing to the mouth-to-mouth marketing. Rain makes everything better.
Mamoulian War Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 *Sighs*... And people still claim that japanese games lack innovation... If the innovation means that 9 out of 10 games released is stupid FPS, then I do not want any innovation in gaming industry... it gets more and more boring... Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Morgoth Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) You might disagree, but I see more innovation nowadays in shooters/action games than I see with, say RPGs. The great thing about shooters/action games is that they're so...mallable. Mix in RPG elements, make it semi-open world (Fallout 3 anyone?), put in conversation wheels and what not, people are still gonna love it because at it's core, it's visceral combat and great immersive (I know people hate that word) atmosphere. What's not to love? You can present a world much better within that genre than, say a top-down strategy game. Even Bioware realised that a long time ago, and see how they're thriving. Hope it isn't too late for Obsidian to realise this FACT. Well, Fallout NV should have opened their eyes. Edited September 11, 2011 by Morgoth Rain makes everything better.
Gorth Posted September 11, 2011 Author Posted September 11, 2011 Oh yeah, and please spare us all the whining this time please? Let's keep the discussion to the reboot, and for what it is, namely a SHOOTER Shooter shooter shooter.... Just wondering what it could add to the table that shooters haven't added before? “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Morgoth Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Well I read somewhere it's not just a linear FPS, but more akin to GTA. So you got a huge city to explore. Well, we should find out next week when the Swedish Gamereactor mag reveals the game. Rain makes everything better.
Lexx Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 I find it funny how some people cry about Syndicate getting FPS'ed, but for Fallout it was ok. "Wuu wuu Syndicate gets raped, wuu wuu!" - "Well, but the same happened with Fallout too." - "But Fallout is different, it worked very good in first person!" Oh well. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Nepenthe Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 "But Fallout is different, it worked very good in first person!" It did? You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Undecaf Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Starbreeze's Syndicate - New Info Leaked (via NeoGAF) *Groan* Sometimes the dead are just better left dead. The world really doesn't need more generic FPS games. Indeed. Especially not old classics re-imagined as such. Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys."
Malcador Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Starbreeze's Syndicate - New Info Leaked (via NeoGAF) Hm...wonder what old series they'll revive next ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Undecaf Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) Starbreeze's Syndicate - New Info Leaked (via NeoGAF) Hm...wonder what old series they'll revive next ? You should say "reanimate" instead of "revive". Edited September 11, 2011 by Undecaf Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys."
Purkake Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Starbreeze's Syndicate - New Info Leaked (via NeoGAF) I, for one, look forward to the "visceral FPS experience", seemed to work pretty well with Deus Ex.
Malcador Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 What exactly DOES that mean, anyway. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Nepenthe Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 What exactly DOES that mean, anyway. Bulletstorm. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Calax Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 http://kotaku.com/5839086/tax-breaks-for-g...-their-fairness That is both scary and amusing at the same time. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
HoonDing Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Ex-Twitcher 2 producer Tomasz Gop working on RPG with Deck 13 set for release in 2013 Hopefully, it will be Venetica 2. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Morgoth Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Deck 13? Venetica? Who needs another Adventure game that is being sold to us as an RPG? Rain makes everything better.
Nepenthe Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 EA Nordic (apparently accidentally) released this: http://www.syndicate.ea.com/ Still nothing there, but apparently coming Q1 2012. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Morgoth Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 coming Q1 2012. I soo bet it's gonna be March. Like ME3. Or XCOM. Or Max Payne 3. Why not add Syndicate to that? Rain makes everything better.
Slowtrain Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Looks pretty awesome. I always enjoyed Starbreeze products. Never played the old Syndicate games, so I'll just treat this as a new IP (same with XCOM). Oh yeah, and please spare us all the whining this time please? Let's keep the discussion to the reboot, and for what it is, namely a SHOOTER Shooter shooter shooter.... *shrug* If a company buys up an old IP, releases a new version of the IP with the exact same name and completely different gameplay they deserve whatever flack they get. They could just as easily make up a new IP for the new gameplay but instead consciously try to cash in on the cred of a previous IP. It's a money-grab nothing more. Certainly a company's right as IP owner, but still a d-bag move for those whole liked the IP because of the original gameplay. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Morgoth Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Sorry to inform you Slowtrain, but the game business ain't about entitlement and "serving the fanbase" today anymore. EA can do with it's IP whatever they want. See it on the bright side, at least Peter Molyneux isn't working on it. Rain makes everything better.
Nepenthe Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 coming Q1 2012. I soo bet it's gonna be March. Like ME3. Or XCOM. Or Max Payne 3. Why not add Syndicate to that? EA isn't going to have ME3 and Syndicate going head-to-head, they'd be crazy to do it with two big released in general, and these two in particular. Mid-late April. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Slowtrain Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Sorry to inform you Slowtrain, but the game business ain't about entitlement and "serving the fanbase" today anymore. EA can do with it's IP whatever they want. No argument there. But it's also completely understandable why fans of the original gameplay would get annoyed and slag off the company. Hopefully though The New XCOM (in specific) will be a good game in its own right and it won't matter what it's called. In the end that's what its all about. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Majek Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Sorry to inform you Slowtrain, but the game business ain't about entitlement and "serving the fanbase" today anymore. EA can do with it's IP whatever they want. See it on the bright side, at least Peter Molyneux isn't working on it. Why is that the bright side? 1.13 killed off Ja2.
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