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I could click on a female solider and she'd say her main story one-liner, then I'd click on a male soldier and he'd say the exact same thing, word for word, as the female soldier, but with a different voice.

 

I actually had it that I clicked on a male soldier and he said his main story one-liner, then I clicked on a female soldier and I got the same one-liner...in the exact same voice as the male soldier! :wacko:

 

That reminds me of Boiling Point, where a character conducted an entire conversation with a different voice actor for each line.

The Witcher had shades of this at times. Geralt would just randomly change voices between lines, but there only seemed to be the two.

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I could click on a female solider and she'd say her main story one-liner, then I'd click on a male soldier and he'd say the exact same thing, word for word, as the female soldier, but with a different voice.

 

I actually had it that I clicked on a male soldier and he said his main story one-liner, then I clicked on a female soldier and I got the same one-liner...in the exact same voice as the male soldier! :wacko:

 

That reminds me of Boiling Point, where a character conducted an entire conversation with a different voice actor for each line.

The Witcher had shades of this at times. Geralt would just randomly change voices between lines, but there only seemed to be the two.

 

 

Interesting. I never noticed that. So there were 2 different VA's who did the US version of Geralt?

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Getting back to the BoS topics, has anyone gotten the more open minded paladin in charge and seen any BoS patrols in the wastes afterward? I am not sure if that was just talk on his part once he takes over or it does happen and I just kept missing those patrols my first play though.

I think they never show up because they might engage in fights with any NCR they'd encounter otherwise, and wipe the NCR out (regardless of the Helios One shoehorn, the Brotherhood can't possibly lose a fight against the NCR in the actual game, save maybe several veteran rangers) which might break some quests.

 

It still would be great to see the BoS lay some smackdown on the NCR arseclowns. But that's a valid point. Having scattered fights of NCR and BoS troops could frag up some quests or at the very least make things overly difficult in some situations. Either case still a let down he mentions sending patrols out but none are ever seen :wacko:

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I used to feel the similar re:voices vs. written dialogue...clickity clickity.

 

But when I turned subtitles off I found I enjoyed listening to the npc's a lot more because there's no text to automatically draw my eye away from the voice. You can still click through them if you want (and sometimes I do, especially when you already know what they're going to say) but for the long npc 'speeches' at least, it really helped with immersion to listen vs. read quickly and click away.

 

Edit: 'nother topic...some ppl tested and Ferocious Loyalty appears to give companions a fairly big boost to their DR (not DT), as they were able to take a lot more hits from deathclaws before falling. Like, 12-15 vs. 2-4. This means if you dont mind keeping your health at 49% or lower all the time, you have constant super-buff companions. Awesome! And I thought FL was useless...

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Has anyone tried a melee/unarmed build, btw? My second playthrough is reaching lategame, and I'm thinking next one I might go a silent assassin/ninja type character, make use of those ninja perks. High luck, melee or unarmed, tag sneak. Just wondering which is more 'fun', or fun enough to stop me from just resorting to guns.

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I don't mind melee in isometric games but monsters are gross and icky and I don't like to be near them.

 

 

That and I'm too lazy to run up to them. Most fights I fire of a couple token potshots and let the given human companion do the bulk of it. That said, anyone used throwing spears to any real extent?

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That reminds me of Boiling Point, where a character conducted an entire conversation with a different voice actor for each line.

With a jaguar slowly hovering by in the background..

 

Boiling Point had the advantage of being so unpolished it was constantly hilarious though!

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Love and Hate!

 

 

.....I still find melee boring.

 

For this game that's prob the best melee weapon in it. They are pretty deadly for melee. However I could never bring myself to melee like yourself, as with my head shots and perk that gives me bonus to VATS, their brain is exploding before they can get in melee range to me. So I do find melee kind of boring. Melee may be more damaging then guns but tell that to all the exploding heads in front of me haha. I love in when those idiot raiders with melee weapons charge me.. its like freebie XP!

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Getting back to the BoS topics, has anyone gotten the more open minded paladin in charge and seen any BoS patrols in the wastes afterward? I am not sure if that was just talk on his part once he takes over or it does happen and I just kept missing those patrols my first play though.

I think they never show up because they might engage in fights with any NCR they'd encounter otherwise, and wipe the NCR out (regardless of the Helios One shoehorn, the Brotherhood can't possibly lose a fight against the NCR in the actual game, save maybe several veteran rangers) which might break some quests.

 

It still would be great to see the BoS lay some smackdown on the NCR arseclowns. But that's a valid point. Having scattered fights of NCR and BoS troops could frag up some quests or at the very least make things overly difficult in some situations. Either case still a let down he mentions sending patrols out but none are ever seen :p

I did flip out earlier tonight when I saw what I thought was a BoS power armor set at an NCR camp (It was an NCR heavy trooper). He looked like he could go toe to toe with a BoS soldier and give the guy a good fight.

 

Along these lines one thing that's been bugging me is that you hear all about how this faction hates that faction etc etc, but you only ever really see the one military action between the NCR and Legion. The Kahns are practically invisible, and almost everyone else is just a tiny part of the wasteland with only the NCR being the shown throughout the wastelands.

 

Also, I wish there was more interaction with the Legion. As it is you only really interact with them negatively until you get to the strip and then you can work for them, but the way that the NCR talks, it feels like they should have an entire section of the map that is technically their territory, which shows the benefits and drawbacks to the Legions way rather than the NCR way.

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I paused my main game because I realized I'd recreated my character from FO3 (what can I say, I :p lasers) and have been toying around with an unarmed character.

 

There was something rather hilarious about running in and punching a giant ant soldier.

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I have a feeling melee was designed around VATS, because in realtime it's too chaotic. You just run towards your opponent at full speed (so he doesn't shoot you to pieces before you even reach him) and then you click like a maniac on the attack button, all the while spinning around trying to see where your enemy has gone. Because of the first person perspective you end up so close to everything that you lose bearing and can't even see who you're fighting.

 

It usually ends abruptly with you still violently clicking away on your mouse and a slo-mo scene showing a shower of mutilated body parts spraying the landscape.

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Yes, but from what little I've tried, it seems that with melee you can't target limbs in VATS? Maybe it was just those times / low skill, but that seemed really stupid. I think I'll try unarmed, what with those neato tricks you pick up along the way, and of course I'm seeing Veronica's prowess with the Paladin Toaster. Super-high sneak + unarmed should be fun, and make the wasteland pretty tense even at lategame. Hopefully.

 

Speaking of which, the infamous bug-ridden Veronica quest has now ground to a standstill, which sucks because I want to get all the companion content over with and then play solo for the ninja playthrough. According to the wiki it's because

I got the rangefinder then Vault 22 data, then came to try and talk to Elder - I should only have got one.

Now they just stare and wont' talk to each other and the various fixes I've seen don't really address that. :p

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I wasn't aware Nexus had mods that aren't hentai! This isn't the nexus I have learned to know! My world is crumbling down on me!

 

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Yes, but from what little I've tried, it seems that with melee you can't target limbs in VATS? Maybe it was just those times / low skill, but that seemed really stupid. I think I'll try unarmed, what with those neato tricks you pick up along the way, and of course I'm seeing Veronica's prowess with the Paladin Toaster. Super-high sneak + unarmed should be fun, and make the wasteland pretty tense even at lategame. Hopefully.

 

You can't target limbs in VATS with Melee or Unarmed (you can still break bones if you hit a limb enough to do it though - I broke a giant ant's head).

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The Witcher had shades of this at times. Geralt would just randomly change voices between lines, but there only seemed to be the two.
Interesting. I never noticed that. So there were 2 different VA's who did the US version of Geralt?
I owned the UK version.
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I wasn't aware Nexus had mods that aren't hentai! This isn't the nexus I have learned to know! My world is crumbling down on me!

 

Nexus in name only!

 

LMAO!

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