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I thought the trailer looked fantastic (the Sacred Ashes one), it's just too bad that the game in no way resembles what was shown there.

 

Oh, and one of the female characters (the one who turns into a purple spider) resembles a famous porn star! Uh, one of my friends told me that, I wouldn't know.

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Cool man, I didn't know there was a LOTR RPG in the making!

 

Oh, and one of the female characters (the one who turns into a purple spider) resembles a famous porn star! Uh, one of my friends told me that, I wouldn't know.

 

Very dark, mature and gritty. Now, if the character really was a porn star, then it'd get interesting. :ermm:

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She looks quite similar to Sasha Grey imo. Which makes sense given the nature of the character, she is a real one of a kind whore. But I like that kind of enduring quality. :ermm:

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The 'Ashes' trailer looks great, there's no getting away from that.

 

I don't think it's meant to do anything more than show off that it's an epic, vanilla fantasy party-based game with lots of fighting in it*. In that respect it's very efficacious.

 

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* The Urk Hai dude looking extremely buff but taken out by one arrow - it's a bit Indiana Jones and the guy with the scimitar if you remember the scene.

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No party member is "mandatory" for keeping in your active party, save for a few small plot specific moments.

 

You just can't tell every party member to not follow you. So they'll stay in camp if you don't want them in your group.

 

 

Morrigan is definitely NOT the one. I thought she might be but I saw a friend of mine tell her to pike off relatively early in the game.

 

 

* The Urk Hai dude looking extremely buff but taken out by one arrow - it's a bit Indiana Jones and the guy with the scimitar if you remember the scene.

 

Trailers always have enemies being dispatched at a much quicker rate than in the actual game.

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Has that trailer some hypnotic properties, or did everyone go insane when I wasn't looking?

 

What's so bad about it?

 

For starters, it doesn't have Marilyn whatisname caterwauling in the background mixed with scenes of pixellated boobies and unconvincing blood fountains.

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Has that trailer some hypnotic properties, or did everyone go insane when I wasn't looking?

What's so bad about it?

Every second is cliche (there's a difference between cliche and badly done too cliche), the characters are cliche (they may have more personality in-game, but what we got here were some defining characterestics, which, presented this way, made the characters seem shallow), the whole thing feels like a bad Advent Children clone (OH HEY, WE'RE HIGH BUDGET B****, LOOK HOW COOL 'N' AWESOME WE ARE), and to crown it all, it made a WRPG look like a JRPG, which is the worst thing a trailer can do.
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Has that trailer some hypnotic properties, or did everyone go insane when I wasn't looking?

What's so bad about it?

Every second is cliche (there's a difference between cliche and badly done too cliche), the characters are cliche (they may have more personality in-game, but what we got here were some defining characterestics, which, presented this way, made the characters seem shallow), the whole thing feels like a bad Advent Children clone (OH HEY, WE'RE HIGH BUDGET B****, LOOK HOW COOL 'N' AWESOME WE ARE), and to crown it all, it made a WRPG look like a JRPG, which is the worst thing a trailer can do.

 

I dunno, I understand where you're coming from on one hand, but on the other its a teaser trailer designed to entice people, so naturally it'd be chock cool of "LOOK HOW COOL 'N' AWESOME WE ARE".

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I dunno, I understand where you're coming from on one hand, but on the other its a teaser trailer designed to entice people, so naturally it'd be chock cool of "LOOK HOW COOL 'N' AWESOME WE ARE".
I'd agree with that if DA's keywords would be 'cool' and 'awesome' instead 'dark' and 'epic'.
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Yeah, I take the point and can see why Oner thinks it's a bit cliched, but then again it's a difficult genre in which to be genuinely original. It's vanilla sub-Tolkein fantasy guys, what else do they have to work with? Characters armed with senitent pieces of tropical fruit? A trailer that concentrates on the inventory system?

 

Personally, I don't think a spell whereby you turn an enemy into a walking IED is a cliche, I think it's pretty darn cool. Yeah, the red-haired chick = Legolas with a bit of Crouching Tiger... about it, but hey those are cool character tropes - who wouldn't want to be like them in a game character? Stenn is the Terminator with dreadlocks - er, that's pretty cool from where I'm sat too.

 

I find myself in the deeply ironic position of defending Bioware marketing, but sometimes you can be a bit too clever with this stuff for your own good. This trailer was polished, with high production values and exciting combat... it sends a deeply positive message about the development goals of the people who made the game. Whether the reality of those goals are met remains to be seen, but for me that trailer was pretty much on the money.

 

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I was wondering why the orcs looked like they came from Wacraft 2's cinematics.

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Yeah, I take the point and can see why Oner thinks it's a bit cliched, but then again it's a difficult genre in which to be genuinely original. It's vanilla sub-Tolkein fantasy guys, what else do they have to work with? Characters armed with senitent pieces of tropical fruit? A trailer that concentrates on the inventory system?

 

Personally, I don't think a spell whereby you turn an enemy into a walking IED is a cliche, I think it's pretty darn cool. Yeah, the red-haired chick = Legolas with a bit of Crouching Tiger... about it, but hey those are cool character tropes - who wouldn't want to be like them in a game character? Stenn is the Terminator with dreadlocks - er, that's pretty cool from where I'm sat too.

 

I find myself in the deeply ironic position of defending Bioware marketing, but sometimes you can be a bit too clever with this stuff for your own good. This trailer was polished, with high production values and exciting combat... it sends a deeply positive message about the development goals of the people who made the game. Whether the reality of those goals are met remains to be seen, but for me that trailer was pretty much on the money.

 

Cheers

MC

 

My guess is that the creativity lies in details you're unlikely to observe in a trailer. Original doesn't need to mean "bizarre." It can be a matter of seeing ordinary things through new eyes.

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Yeah, I take the point and can see why Oner thinks it's a bit cliched, but then again it's a difficult genre in which to be genuinely original. It's vanilla sub-Tolkein fantasy guys, what else do they have to work with? Characters armed with senitent pieces of tropical fruit? A trailer that concentrates on the inventory system?
It's more like too many cliches presented badly. I mentioned the PC-deflects-axe part earlier, that wasn't new either, but was done well and I liked it.

 

My guess is that the creativity lies in details you're unlikely to observe in a trailer.
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I dunno, I understand where you're coming from on one hand, but on the other its a teaser trailer designed to entice people, so naturally it'd be chock cool of "LOOK HOW COOL 'N' AWESOME WE ARE".
I'd agree with that if DA's keywords would be 'cool' and 'awesome' instead 'dark' and 'epic'.

 

Maybe they're going for cool dark awesome epic?

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I dunno, I understand where you're coming from on one hand, but on the other its a teaser trailer designed to entice people, so naturally it'd be chock cool of "LOOK HOW COOL 'N' AWESOME WE ARE".
I'd agree with that if DA's keywords would be 'cool' and 'awesome' instead 'dark' and 'epic'.

Maybe they're going for cool dark awesome epic?

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