Fallout find!

[Walsingham]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6759273.stm

 

Sadly, it seems you'd get a lot of mush.

[Xard]

Aww, what a pity :sad:

[mkreku]

Typical American. They just can't build stuff that lasts.

[Walsingham]

I suspect it was basic misunderstanding about how damp concrete gets.

[metadigital]

Sounds like humidity from the soil transferred into the air of the vault. A de-humidifier might have helped ... or a proper air seal. Concrete is very porous ... I remember a murder was discovered because the killer buried the body in cement, which became a part of a building. The crime was uncovered when someone tried to explain why a concrete pillar was blanketed in swarms of flies ...

[Calax]

the Twinkies ok?

[Jorian Drake]

Typical American. They just can't build stuff that lasts.

true

[theslug]

Typical American. They just can't build stuff that lasts.

typical swedes thinkings there are all cool becuase they have hot girlfriends and post on the internets

[Musopticon?]

[Xard]

Typical American. They just can't build stuff that lasts.

typical swedes thinkings there are all cool becuase they have hot girlfriends and post on the internets

 

Ouch

[Dark_Raven]

the Twinkies ok?

That and McDonalds french fries. They age very well.

[Enoch]

They should've buried a Volkswagen.

[dunniteowl]

50 years ago in Tulsa, Oklahoma? It isn't typical Americans, trust me, it's typical Sooners.

 

"Hey, Earl, we gots ta build ourselves one o' them there tam capsules. What should we otta put in 'er?"

 

"Whale, Billy Ray, we gotta put a car in't, an mebbe some wimmins stuff, ya know, lak a lipstick and some o' them snappy stockins. Cain ya think of anythang aylse?"

 

"Golly, Earl, if'n we're gon'ta put a whole car in thar, then, ya know, we prolly outta put a gas can in thar too. An you cain't put them ladies thangs in thar what you have to put it in a purse."

 

"How thick a ceement wall should we otta make fer it?"

 

"Whale. Ah guess a couple three, four inches otta do it. We don't want it too thick fer them fellers fitty yars from now, and mebbe you outta make some ar holes in't too, so it won't stink when them fellers come git that stuff outta thar and check it out."

 

Trust me, while not all people in America are that bad, nor even most of them in Oklahoma today, we're talking 50 years ago in a country that was still heady and drunk with the end of WWII and the growing fear and cynicism of the beginning of the Cold War. Oklahoma was "The West" still in many ways and technical excellence wasn't in making cement bunkers, it was in farming and oil drilling.

 

The most amusing part of this is that they actually expected a car, in an unprotected environment to come out looking good and free of moisture.

 

As far as a cache from Fallout, it would be reasonable to conclude that some of the caches would have mostly if not completely ruined goods in it for some reason and others with varying degrees of well kept, properly bagged and nitrogen filled chambers with important things like radios, weapons, ammunition and food stuffs in cans kept moisture and oxygen free to maintain preservation. Remember, Fallout is a future RPG where the technology was higher than that specific time capsule.

 

Ah, America, land of contradictions, bad diction, indescretion and secrets and some of the most advanced technology sitting right alongside some of the most backwards ideas, attitudes and beliefs. It really is a strange and wonderful place (using wonderful in the proper technical sense of being a place ful of wonder...)

 

Oh yeah, and some rusted old car in a concrete time capsule. But the maps, they were in good condition, at least they'd have the maps, even if they didn't have a car they could drive.

 

regards,

dunniteowl

[metadigital]

[Walsingham]

Gentlemen, let's tone down the bigotry regarding America. If they're so rubbish at building things how come they're the only country to have gone to the Moon?

 

And Dunniteowl, putting a can of gasoline in there isn't stupid. They probably expected us to be using atomics or something by now. Then we'd damn well NEED the gasoline.

[Aram]

I'm pretty sure our cars are supposed to be flying by now. We're slacking.

[Walsingham]

I'm pretty sure our cars are supposed to be flying by now. We're slacking.

 

It's your fault. You wouldn't let that scientist have your hand.

[metadigital]

We do have the Segway.

[Jorian Drake]

...as the other fallout thread was closed:

 

 

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.ph...;#entry10312450

 

 

 

 

 

lol, Fallout 3 with Oblivion-like dialogue tree...

[Tale]

I know a Tony Almeida from Steampowered.com. He's actually cogent, so either they're different guys or that is a complete and utter troll.

[Sand]

The more I hear about Fallout 3 the crapier it sounds.

[Tigranes]

That thread contains no information though. We don't know anything about FO3's dialogue system - it may be ES-style topic-based, back to the old tree-roots, ME-style, or something else. I don't like the pure aesthetics of the Oblivion style zoom-in, but that's all we know at the moment. I honestly don't know why Jorian linked that.

[Sand]

From what I read its going to have Oblivion style dialogue and all of it voiced. Probably with the same bad voice actors in the TES games. That is all they probably afford after paying Liam Neeson his paycheck.

Edited June 20, 2007 by Sand

[Atom523]

From what I read its going to have Oblivion style dialogue and all of it voiced. Probably with the same bad voice actors in the TES games. That is all they probably afford after paying Liam Neeson his paycheck.

 

Well they said it will have a similar dialog tree. That doesn't mean similar dialog. They probably assumed that more people know what the dialog is like in Oblivion and didn't want people to think that it was a standard RPG where people will simply say one thing when you approach them. At least that is how i interpret it, basically saying that you will have multiple responses to choose from when you speak to someone.

[Tigranes]

To be fair, the only difference between BG and Oblivion is that the character responses are written out, not topic'd.

 

Oh, and yeah, that you have multiple choices. That's pretty damn crucial and I really don't see Bethesda leaving that out for FO3.

Edited June 20, 2007 by Tigranes