AzathothXy Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 When you get the Holograms of Vrook and Vandar, Vrook basically says the Exile was only a mediocre jedi at best. Now, as you play the Exile grows by leaps and bounds in power. So... 1. Was Vrook just jealous of the Exiles leadership ability?(since Disciple claims Exile was the better teacher). 2. Just cluless? 3. Or by becoming a 'wound in the force' did that amplify his apower? Also does anyone else think that Exile and Nihilus have some kind of connection? Everybody describes the Exile beeing either directly or indirectly responsible for all the jedi deaths. Maybe they were bunkmates at Malachor or sumthin. Just a random thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I don't know if nihilus and exile new each other before TSL. as for him being a mediocre jedi vrook said he was as you said and even vandar said he was an average student of the force. I believe him being a wound in the force was what made exile a powerful person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 When you get the Holograms of Vrook and Vandar, Vrook basically says the Exile was only a mediocre jedi at best. Now, as you play the Exile grows by leaps and bounds in power. So... 1. Was Vrook just jealous of the Exiles leadership ability?(since Disciple claims Exile was the better teacher). 2. Just cluless? 3. Or by becoming a 'wound in the force' did that amplify his apower? Also does anyone else think that Exile and Nihilus have some kind of connection? Everybody describes the Exile beeing either directly or indirectly responsible for all the jedi deaths. Maybe they were bunkmates at Malachor or sumthin. Just a random thought. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Vrook was a bitter old man overflowing with Jealousy and Envy. He was so drunk for power that it obviously turned him to the dark side! If the other two Jedi Council members were not so blind and outta touch they would have realized this! Kalfear Disco and Dragons Avatar Enlarged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dervish Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hold on, there's a hologram with Vrook and Vandar in K2? I missed that, where do you find that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho_leo Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hold on, there's a hologram with Vrook and Vandar in K2? I missed that, where do you find that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In Dantooine, if you repair the droid by the Ebon Hawk. But I guess that since the Exile draws power from others, being surrounded by force sensitives would indeed make him more powerful. That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormcloud777 Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The force must be balanced. Lets say there are 1000 force points. 500 to dark side 500 to light side. equates to 1 point per jedi/dark jedi now then, if all the jedi are killed off but 1, the remaining jedi has 500 points vs 500 dark jedi with 1 pt ea. just my numerical theory, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Like Kreia says at the end Handmaiden will teach others of the Jedi who gave up the force but became stronger because of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kavar Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The force must be balanced. Lets say there are 1000 force points. 500 to dark side 500 to light side. equates to 1 point per jedi/dark jedi now then, if all the jedi are killed off but 1, the remaining jedi has 500 points vs 500 dark jedi with 1 pt ea. just my numerical theory, anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh I thought that the balance meant that there must be equal Light Side power and DS. Like Anakin brought balance to the force when killing off alot of Jedi so there were only Obi-Wan and Yoda (one medium and one powerful) on LS and on DS there were Vader and the Emperor (also one medium and one powerful) <- Anakin has brought balance to the force as according to the prophecy (w00t) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Master D Murda, I believed that was more of a metophorical statement... Perhaps she was referring to the fact that the Exile gained strength through the events AFTER his rip... Maybe not, I don't care... Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The force must be balanced. Lets say there are 1000 force points. 500 to dark side 500 to light side. equates to 1 point per jedi/dark jedi now then, if all the jedi are killed off but 1, the remaining jedi has 500 points vs 500 dark jedi with 1 pt ea. just my numerical theory, anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh I thought that the balance meant that there must be equal Light Side power and DS. Like Anakin brought balance to the force when killing off alot of Jedi so there were only Obi-Wan and Yoda (one medium and one powerful) on LS and on DS there were Vader and the Emperor (also one medium and one powerful) <- Anakin has brought balance to the force as according to the prophecy (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Balance is an iffy topic. It could mean NO Jedi/Sith for all we know. Or, it could be peace, or it could be war, or it could be entropy, or it could be apathy, or it could be Gizka, or it could be reruns of Gilligan's Island for all we know! Even the Masters in the movies had no clue what balance was, only that it was good, and could be brought via the Chosen One... Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Master D Murda, I believed that was more of a metophorical statement... Perhaps she was referring to the fact that the Exile gained strength through the events AFTER his rip... Maybe not, I don't care... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well the question was basically 'Why did the exile get more powerful?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor Qel Droma Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Master D Murda is right... Jaguars4ever is still alive. No word of a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Satasn Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Like Kreia says at the end Handmaiden will teach others of the Jedi who gave up the force but became stronger because of it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What up man, haven't seen you around in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Flatus Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 That recording on dantooine is garbled and with bits missing, so you can never be exactly sure of what they are saying. I think balance means light side only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Like Kreia says at the end Handmaiden will teach others of the Jedi who gave up the force but became stronger because of it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What up man, haven't seen you around in a long time <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My computer broke and I use my cousin's for a couple hours a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho_leo Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I think balance means light side only. If there was only the light side, there would be no balance at all. " It it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Damn Vrook, it was too bad he made it out of Kotor alive, and playing LS meant I had to forgive him, I'm glad Kreia cleaned up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Vrook is a embitter old man that is very evniness of Revan and Exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-47 MK II Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 There is no light side of the force it's just dark side pretending, and looking forward to laughing when it pulls out the rug from under the light side jedis' feet. It also looks forward to the time that LS jedis stand around looking sheepish at the waste of their lives thusfar and throught history. MY PHOTORECEPTORS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Jedis are naive and TOO traditional for their own good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 There was a consensus amongst the Jedi Masters that the Exile was a leader. (That normally equates to charisma in the real world, but that's another topic for another day.) So the wound/echo thingie that no-one seems to know the exact nature of has indeed made the Exile more powerful, but it is the leadership question that needs to be answered. After all, the Exile may have been an average joe jedi, but she was a superior leader, and jedi wanted to follow, even if they weren't her padawan. that's why Vrookie-babie got so peeved when the Exile went to Malachor ... Whether the "leadership" is derived from the wound, caused the wound or is co-incidental to the wound is never explained nor explored in the game. :cool: OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I think balance means light side only. If there was only the light side, there would be no balance at all. " It it Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haitoku Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I think balance means light side only. If there was only the light side, there would be no balance at all. " It it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Flatus Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I dont mean the jedi order=balance i mean light no dark side =balance. It depends on what was there originally - whether dark and light was always there or whether the dark came about by ppl corrupting the force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 There was a consensus amongst the Jedi Masters that the Exile was a leader. (That normally equates to charisma in the real world, but that's another topic for another day.) So the wound/echo thingie that no-one seems to know the exact nature of has indeed made the Exile more powerful, but it is the leadership question that needs to be answered. After all, the Exile may have been an average joe jedi, but she was a superior leader, and jedi wanted to follow, even if they weren't her padawan. that's why Vrookie-babie got so peeved when the Exile went to Malachor ... Whether the "leadership" is derived from the wound, caused the wound or is co-incidental to the wound is never explained nor explored in the game. :cool: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> she? her? bah!!!!! whats with this made up concept Exile was a she Kalfear Disco and Dragons Avatar Enlarged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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