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[melkathi]

They didn't manage to make me care about either setting

[Mamoulian War]

22 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Heres an interesting comparison and question , PoE vs Pathfinder universe?

And if you prefer one over the other what would be the reason?  I havent played either but I have PoE 1 and Pathfinder 1 (Kingmaker ) on Steam and I am leaning towards Pathfinder 1 as my first choice ( I feel a little guilty  saying that on the Obsidian forum )

I love Pathfinder setting more, but I have only finished PoE1 so far And enjoyed it a lot. I have Kingamker scheduled in the next few months.

[Wormerine]

Further scoop on StarWars games in the making. Seems like Respawn is "overseeing" other StarWars projects.
1) There is already roumors sequel to rather decent Respawn's own Fallen Order

2) There is Star Wars FPS lead by one of the creators of Force Unleashed, Empire at War and original SW: Battlefronts

3) and previously mentioned ex-Firaxis turn based tactics studios, Bit Reactor  is working on Star Wars strategy game.

[Wormerine]

Some things which make me feel unleasy - like Endlen Ring being the easiest of Softworks games? With the difficulty of their titles being greatly exaggerated I somewhat worry it will be a duller experience. That was a worry some people (including myself) had seeing gameplay demos. 

[uuuhhii]

pathfinder setting absolutely exist to serve the table top need on every level

the whole pathfinder society thing was one of the worst part of the entire setting

only exist for actual pfs

avistan neatly cut into small roughly square shaped pieces for all the popular trope

the worst offender would be linnorm king ice witch mammoth lord three square

most things barely change even though 20 team of high level murder hobo kill their way through so many high level places leaving a few hundreds of 15 to 20 level body behind

things like taldor are still monarchy cheliax losing a small conor piece are barely noticable

but the whole graveland thing was pretty drastic and a great move to end 1e and start 2e

all very functional for a table top setting

[bugarup]

Pathfinder has the same problem for me as every Bethesda open world RPG - the setting fells like a theme park, not a coherent world, also if dictionary entry for word "derivative" needs an illustration, they should look no further than Pathfinder. I find Obsidian's settings both more original and more believable, with a little side effect of it being hard to be mean to characters there, whereas Pathfinder's world and characters make me want to go full Nerat on them. 

[melkathi]

The problem I have with fancy settings is that they have done all this work, so now need to spend a lot of effort telling you what it is. But I just need want to play the game.

[MrBrown]

2 hours ago, BruceVC said:

Heres an interesting comparison and question , PoE vs Pathfinder universe?

And if you prefer one over the other what would be the reason?  I havent played either but I have PoE 1 and Pathfinder 1 (Kingmaker ) on Steam and I am leaning towards Pathfinder 1 as my first choice ( I feel a little guilty  saying that on the Obsidian forum )

They are quite different, PF exists for PnP, while PoE exists for the story of the computer games.

I wouldn't say that's the main difference of the two games though, PoE is more easy to learn, while Kingmaker is like D&D lets use all the books hell.

[kanisatha]

1 hour ago, bugarup said:

Pathfinder has the same problem for me as every Bethesda open world RPG - the setting fells like a theme park, not a coherent world, also if dictionary entry for word "derivative" needs an illustration, they should look no further than Pathfinder. I find Obsidian's settings both more original and more believable, with a little side effect of it being hard to be mean to characters there, whereas Pathfinder's world and characters make me want to go full Nerat on them. 

@BruceVC, @bugarupsays it pretty well here. This is how I largely feel as well. Furthermore, I would say that because of how the Pf games are made, which is to say they are directly made from Pf TT game modules, you get only a micro-level exposure to the Pf world (Golarion), unlike the PoE games which give you a much better immersion into the world (Eora) overall.

[Bartimaeus]

7 hours ago, Wormerine said:

Some things which make me feel unleasy - like Endlen Ring being the easiest of Softworks games? With the difficulty of their titles being greatly exaggerated I somewhat worry it will be a duller experience. That was a worry some people (including myself) had seeing gameplay demos. 

The fact that it's open world was already a huge red flag for me. I expect the game to be fine-ish, but not really be my thing a la Sekiro*.

*But in a totally different way from Sekiro, which eliminated all the interesting enemy encounter design of Souls games in favor of going all out on bosses and mini-bosses (...many of which effectively fought the same way, so that wasn't really ideal to me, especially because many of my "fond" memories of Soulsborne games are the innumerable ways the world and non-boss enemy design could screw you over, which was just...not really a thing in Sekiro). Sekiro also bizarrely got rid of a lot of incentive to explore since there was no gear or interesting items to ever pick up, so that's one way Elden Ring can immediately become more appealing.

6 hours ago, melkathi said:

The problem I have with fancy settings is that they have done all this work, so now need to spend a lot of effort telling you what it is. But I just need want to play the game.

You didn't like getting smashed with ten thousand different pieces of world lore in the first half hour of PoE?

Edited January 26, 2022 by Bartimaeus

[melkathi]

 

meh

[Chairchucker]

I heard Phoenix Point was not very good so even though I own it (I backed it on Fig or whatever) I haven't played it. So I doubt the DLC will change my mind.

[Hurlshort]

9 hours ago, Chairchucker said:

I heard Phoenix Point was not very good so even though I own it (I backed it on Fig or whatever) I haven't played it. So I doubt the DLC will change my mind.

Phoenix Point is good, and some of the DLC has really improved the game experience. I'm not a fan of vehicles, so this one doesn't strike my fancy. 

But the game is definitely worth a spin, particularly if you like the Xcom style of games. It has more of a slow strategy game approach than the fast progression of the newer Xcom games, but I'd say try it out if you own it.

[melkathi]

I think the vehicle DLC is the one truly pointless one, as vehicles are a cute gimmick but nothing more. They are expensive, gain no XP and awesome skills, and they are too big to maneuver a lot of maps. There is little incentive to have them beside very specific missions.

[Hurlshort]

49 minutes ago, melkathi said:

I think the vehicle DLC is the one truly pointless one, as vehicles are a cute gimmick but nothing more. They are expensive, gain no XP and awesome skills, and they are too big to maneuver a lot of maps. There is little incentive to have them beside very specific missions.

It does seem to introduce a new Mad Max style faction, so that's something. Not that the game lacks factions, mind you, but I guess this could replace the rather lackluster raiders that you encounter in a few places. 

But honestly I'd rather them give some depth to the Pandorans. At this point you will spend more time dealing with human factions than combatting the global threat.

[melkathi]

That was always a problem with the game and possibly what alienates the most people, making them pick up more on other problems. People were far more prepared to forgive xcom it's problems and a major thing that game didn't do was break the promise of being an xcom game: a game about fighting an alien threat.

[Chairchucker]

OK screw it I'll install this and be v. mad at you all when I don't enjoy it

[melkathi]

Remember to sell food to havens for other resources. You always have enough food.

[Humanoid]

Two Point Campus is a day one Game Pass title, 17th of May, noice. Getting it for "free" certainly softens the blow of their somewhat questionable DLC approach.

[the_dog_days]

The highly anticipated sequel to the 2021 masterpiece: 

 

[melkathi]

In the important news segment:

Troubleshooter Devs have started work on a cosmetic costume pack dlc.  Due to increasing community pressure they may even charge for it to fund work on the content dlc.

[Amentep]

On 1/26/2022 at 7:41 AM, BruceVC said:

( I feel a little guilty  saying that on the Obsidian forum )

On 1/26/2022 at 8:51 AM, bugarup said:

the setting fells like a theme park, not a coherent world, 

I thought that was The Forgotten Realms... 

[Malcador]

 

[Wormerine]

 

[Chilloutman]

Seen them all. Always kinda makes me sad that you can't play character like him in RPGs.