Guard Dog Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I’ve got a well into the natural aquifer. The water is close to perfect. Alkaline enough to taste good but not enough to be “hard” 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Guard Dog said: I’ve got a well into the natural aquifer. The water is close to perfect. Alkaline enough to taste good but not enough to be “hard” I've got problems drinking normal tap water, it just tastes "wrong" to me. Ok, during the summer months the water tends to taste.. mucky? I guess I'd call it. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Azdeus said: I've got problems drinking normal tap water, it just tastes "wrong" to me. Ok, during the summer months the water tends to taste.. mucky? I guess I'd call it. You might need to put a sediment filter in line. The water may have too many suspended solids "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Guard Dog said: You might need to put a sediment filter in line. The water may have too many suspended solids Probably, I've got a filter similar to this, but the funny thing is that the water is always clear, even if I let it sit for a good day or so there won't be any sediments at the bottom. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Azdeus said: Probably, I've got a filter similar to this, but the funny thing is that the water is always clear, even if I let it sit for a good day or so there won't be any sediments at the bottom. Depends on what the sediment is. Lime deposits are neutrally buoyant for example. Iron deposits can leave you with clear water but scale residue once it evaporates. These kinds of suspended solids are not harmful in the quantities you are likely to have coming from a natural water source. But they definitely affect quality. A 100 micron filter would likely eliminate 95% of suspended and fix the taste. so long as your water is not too acidic. If it IS acidic that is what you need to fix. You could test the PH pretty easily. anything below 7.2 or above 8.4 is not going to taste good. If the water is too "soft" or too "hard" a water softener will fix that. The fact that you only notice the difference in the summer leads me to believe it's environmental rather than chemical. For example in the summer the ground isn't frozen so rainfall causes collected metals, carbon and calcium in the soil over the winter to filter into the aquifer. So filtration is likely all you need to worry about. If you don't mind throwing a little money at the problem a reverse osmosis filter will cure almost all water problems. Low volume RO's are cheap but but one for the whole house will set you back more than a few Euros. But I suspect a more dense filter will fix your problem based on the way you described it. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 It's SNOWING. Heavily by our standards. I fed the chickens in their house and checked their heater. God help the hens if Duke is feeling randy today. There is no running away from him. Sunny took two steps out into the yard to do her business and beat a hasty retreat to the house. I'm going to make a pot of coffee, a bowl of oatmeal and watch some TV. Re-watching "From the Earth to the Moon" on HBO Max. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Guard Dog said: Depends on what the sediment is. Lime deposits are neutrally buoyant for example. Iron deposits can leave you with clear water but scale residue once it evaporates. These kinds of suspended solids are not harmful in the quantities you are likely to have coming from a natural water source. But they definitely affect quality. A 100 micron filter would likely eliminate 95% of suspended and fix the taste. so long as your water is not too acidic. If it IS acidic that is what you need to fix. You could test the PH pretty easily. anything below 7.2 or above 8.4 is not going to taste good. If the water is too "soft" or too "hard" a water softener will fix that. The fact that you only notice the difference in the summer leads me to believe it's environmental rather than chemical. For example in the summer the ground isn't frozen so rainfall causes collected metals, carbon and calcium in the soil over the winter to filter into the aquifer. So filtration is likely all you need to worry about. If you don't mind throwing a little money at the problem a reverse osmosis filter will cure almost all water problems. Low volume RO's are cheap but but one for the whole house will set you back more than a few Euros. But I suspect a more dense filter will fix your problem based on the way you described it. Well, the lake is surrounded by sand till with some dirt ontop, and it's in a "water protection area", so you're not allowed to pollute anything around here. My grandparents were advocates for things like that, and heavilly involved in politics, they were very protective of the lakes waters. The municipality tests the waters biannually, and they haven't "limed" the lake in decades. I believe I have to move the ejector(I don't know if this is really the right reminology. I've got a pump in my house that pumps water through a long hose down to the lake where an "ejector" creates the suction and brings fresh water up through a different hose.) actually, me and my father relocated it to a deeper point in the lake a few years ago, and shortly after that the water got bad. It might be that the ice grabbed the buoy and tipped the stand that it was attached to. Or, as you say, a more dense filter. We actually looked into a RO filter a long time ago, but the company refused to sell it to us unless they made the installation themselves, and we didn't want to cough up the ludicrous amounts of money they asked. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeYellow Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I want to move to Portland sometime this year. I'm middle aged now and I feel like I've wasted a good chunk of my years on the wrong turf. I mean I've been lucky financially and have a decent income but there's definitely something lacking in the private sector of my existence, and the ecosystem of this small town is a hinderance rather than an augmentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 hours ago, ComradeMaster said: I want to move to Portland sometime this year. I'm middle aged now and I feel like I've wasted a good chunk of my years on the wrong turf. I mean I've been lucky financially and have a decent income but there's definitely something lacking in the private sector of my existence, and the ecosystem of this small town is a hinderance rather than an augmentation. Portland is no different than any other midsize city. Whatever you were looking for if you don’t bring it there you probably won’t find it there. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 15 hours ago, Guard Dog said: Portland is no different than any other midsize city. Whatever you were looking for if you don’t bring it there you probably won’t find it there. I dunno, Portlandia was a documentary right? 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, Malcador said: I dunno, Portlandia was a documentary right? For sure. But there is basically a Portand in every geographical region of this country, so I'm no sure why you would need to go to that city specifically. I can just go over to Santa Cruz for the same thing. Texas has Austin. GD has Memphis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hurlshot said: For sure. But there is basically a Portand in every geographical region of this country, so I'm no sure why you would need to go to that city specifically. I can just go over to Santa Cruz for the same thing. Texas has Austin. GD has Memphis. LOL! No, Memphis has Overton Square. The rest of it is either redneck, industrial, tourist traps or not so nice! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I'm getting to experience snow and a hard freeze or the first time. It sucks. 3 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Noticed that Facebook suggests I may know a lot of Vietnamese women. Odd. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, KaineParker said: I'm getting to experience snow and a hard freeze or the first time. It sucks. I doubt it'll make you feel better, but I'm jealous 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Hurlshot said: But there is basically a Portand in every geographical region of this country, so I'm no sure why you would need to go to that city specifically. I can just go over to Santa Cruz for the same thing. Santa Cruz doesn't have as much rain, tho. ...maybe I'm weird, but weather is one of the main reasons I'd move somewhere. I've always wanted a house with a giant plate glass living room wall so I can watch storms. So parts of OR would be great for that. Hmm...that makes me think I'll spend the afternoon looking at homes for sale up there, again. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Azdeus said: I doubt it'll make you feel better, but I'm jealous Our infrastructure isn't built to handle it (and is in general ****) so when it happens it's devastating. Our internet is down now and we're likely going to have blackouts throughout the rest of the storm. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Some of our pipes froze and we were without cold water for about 30 hours but so far that's been the worst of it. Other than the general misery of freezing and a wind chill of nearly negative 40, that is. Edited February 16, 2021 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, ShadySands said: Some of our pipes froze and we were without cold water for about 30 hours but so far that's been the worst of it. Other than the general misery of freezing and a wind chill of nearly negative 40, that is. hope those pipe didn't crack and wasn't in the ground might be extremely difficult to fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 hours ago, KaineParker said: Our infrastructure isn't built to handle it (and is in general ****) so when it happens it's devastating. Our internet is down now and we're likely going to have blackouts throughout the rest of the storm. Ouch, yeah, there are many things I envy americans, but your infrastructure generally ain't one of them. I can usually rely on my internet connection, but power does come and go through windstorms. 9 hours ago, ShadySands said: Some of our pipes froze and we were without cold water for about 30 hours but so far that's been the worst of it. Other than the general misery of freezing and a wind chill of nearly negative 40, that is. I usually leave a little bit of a flow of warm and cold water somewhere in the house to prevent things like this. Temperatures has risen about 15 degrees over here, we're around 0 degrees during the day and maybe 2 degrees cold during the nights. We've got some snowfall that's supposed to come in, between 5 and 15 cms, followed by rainfall and +7C. It's been lovely having a bright white world, but it's going to be grey and boring again soon. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 2:49 AM, Hurlshot said: My wife and I have been coming to terms with the fact we might not be able to buy a house where we live. The last couple years we have been working hard at paying down any and all debt. It is a long story how we got ourselves in debt, and it took a good decade to do it, but with another year we should have all credit cards and cars zeroed out. That is the good news. The bad news is we really haven't saved anything. We've been aggressively paying down the debt, but setting money aside has been very difficult. So we need to figure out how to create a down payment. Then you look at the market where we live, and that seems like an insurmountable sum. A modest townhome goes for $800k. That means just to scratch the bare minimum of 5% down, we need $40k. We talked to a retirement specialist the other day, because I had the bright idea of borrowing from out 457b or 403b. The specialist literally said, "Why would you buy in this market. It is too high! Wait and buy low!" This is great advice, even though I know she is also trying to make sure we don't lower our contributions, but it is tough advice when we need a place to live. You might say, why not move? Teachers have a lot of trouble changing school districts, particularly late in the career. If we retire in 15 years, we both get about 68% of our income from all of our year contributing to the state retirement system. That is great. Leaving our schools would hurt that. So we need to tough it out. We also love our town. So we rent a modest house for $3100 a month, which is the average rent in our town. But we only have another year or so before they develop the land we are on, so we need to move. Which means jumping into a rental market that looks like this: https://www.towncharts.com/California/Housing/Morgan-Hill-city-CA-Housing-data.html So yeah, it is ugly renting. Part of me wants to buy a nice cabin in the woods a few hours away. They are literally a quarter of the price. We can rent a dump for the next decade and spend weekends and summers there. But that is probably more of a daydream. Anyways, just venting as I process all this. What does "modest house" mean in your context? "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pidesco said: What does "modest house" mean in your context? Want to bet that "modest" house for 800k would cost like 2+ million € in a similarily developed location for us Euro-peons? Edited February 16, 2021 by majestic No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, majestic said: Want to bed that "modest" house for 800k would cost like 2+ million € in a similarily developed location for us Euro-peons? I was thinking more of the square footage involved than anything else. Americans like their houses huge. Here in Sweden, only rarely do normal houses go for above 1 million. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Large houses means its easier to avoid family members. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Pidesco said: I was thinking more of the square footage involved than anything else. Americans like their houses huge. Here in Sweden, only rarely do normal houses go for above 1 million. Then you're better off than we are. Care for a nice little 2 bedroom house for a bargain 3.1 million €? Ahem. Although looking at 400 year old houses in a luxury area isn't the best way to go about it, I guess. That's the equivalent of looking for housing in Beverly Hills. Here in the 'burbs getting a decent plot of land alone will set you back 800k. It's ridiculous. Edited February 16, 2021 by majestic No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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