Azdeus Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, BruceVC said: Okay now I know how serious you are about not wanting to support this game if you would rather donate money to Star Citizen ....thats some serious lack of confidence and I have to accept I cannot change your mind ...ever Beyond the anouncement itself I've not ready any good news, so.. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I dunno, this game looked great initially but now it's in limbo. This is another PREY, Duke Nukem Forever, Beyond Good & Evil 2 etc. Also, I think Chris Avellone should be hired to write for the next Sponge Bob game. Would seriously play it though, an isometric turn-based RPG set in Bikini Buttom...why not! There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I did not expect to see a new post in this discussion 1 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, Katphood said: Also, I think Chris Avellone should be hired to write for the next Sponge Bob game. Would seriously play it though, an isometric turn-based RPG set in Bikini Buttom...why not! What can change the nature of a parazoan? 3 - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 was almost cancelled, Paradox reveals Quote In an interview with Nyhetsbyrån Direkt (via Avanza), Wester revealed that as Paradox took control of the series from its previous developers, it almost scrapped the game completely. “When we lifted the game from the original developer, we had a long review in case we should end the game or run it further,” he said. “Then we were actually prepared to close the production completely. But we got a ‘pitch’ that we thought was convincing enough to run. played on and we have very good hopes that it will be a good game that meets the players’ expectations.” Paradox has yet to reveal which studio is now handling Bloodlines 2 development. However, Wester said that it is “a very reputable and talented developer”. Still no real news 1 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Sounds to me like whatever Bloodlines 2 was is gone now anyways. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I hope it turns out good but I'm not holding my breath. Games that have gone through production hell and multiple developers... This sort of thing generally doesn't have a happy ending. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Keyrock said: I hope it turns out good but I'm not holding my breath. Games that have gone through production hell and multiple developers... This sort of thing generally doesn't have a happy ending. I dread saying this out loud, but my super secret inside voice whispered, "maybe Obsidian is working on it" when I got to the end of that article "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Achilles said: I dread saying this out loud, but my super secret inside voice whispered, "maybe Obsidian is working on it" when I got to the end of that article I know Obsidian has worked with Paradox before (on the excellent Tyranny), but that was before they were acquired by Microsoft. It's not impossible that Microsoft and Paradox worked out a deal but I'd give it an extremely unlikely. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, Keyrock said: I'd give it an extremely unlikely Same. But I can dream, can't I? "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 MS let Obs do it because Paradox is letting them put it on GamePass... or so goes the erotic fanfic I'm working on. 2 2 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) I just realized that Harebrained Schemes is owned by Paradox... Edited October 16, 2021 by Keyrock 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 17 hours ago, ShadySands said: Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 was almost cancelled, Paradox reveals Still no real news But we have the most important update about this game ....and we should all be celebrating that Its not being cancelled 2 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardRichieRich Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Does the game look exciting? Do you think it's still worth trying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 hours ago, RichardRichieRich said: Does the game look exciting? Do you think it's still worth trying? It looks like a train wreck. Which I guess is a type of excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeYellow Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 6 hours ago, RichardRichieRich said: Do you think it's still worth trying? Probably not. Sequels to almost decades old niche games have quite a bad track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Best explanation I've seen for the hiatus/cancelation: 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 8 minutes in and he still didn't say anything related to Bloodlines 2. And I can see that first thing he mention is because its not because it was too woke. I worked on few games in AAA industry and I can almost guarantee it was because team was too woke which might cause different issues as well (either technical issues or management issues) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 14 hours ago, Chilloutman said: 8 minutes in and he still didn't say anything related to Bloodlines 2. And I can see that first thing he mention is because its not because it was too woke. I worked on few games in AAA industry and I can almost guarantee it was because team was too woke which might cause different issues as well (either technical issues or management issues) ? He talked about Bloodlines 2 from the beginning. His conclusion is that Hardsuit Labs, not having had a narrative team before Bloodlines 2, made major dumb moves because they'd never managed a narrative team including finalizing and recording VO too early in the process that set up delays in the development and incurred extra costs. 2 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Amentep said: ? He talked about Bloodlines 2 from the beginning. His conclusion is that Hardsuit Labs, not having had a narrative team before Bloodlines 2, made major dumb moves because they'd never managed a narrative team including finalizing and recording VO too early in the process that set up delays in the development and incurred extra costs. Its only speculation on his part tho, he does not have any evidence for it. But I agree they sure did some major dumb moves I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamMoore Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) On 10/24/2021 at 10:36 AM, the_dog_days said: Best explanation I've seen for the hiatus/cancelation: I'm glad you liked the video. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. On 10/24/2021 at 3:36 PM, Chilloutman said: 8 minutes in and he still didn't say anything related to Bloodlines 2. And I can see that first thing he mention is because its not because it was too woke. I worked on few games in AAA industry and I can almost guarantee it was because team was too woke which might cause different issues as well (either technical issues or management issues) I've never seen the word "woke" appear in a publishing agreement, but they'll usually specify what happens if the studio fails to deliver the game by the deadline. On 10/15/2021 at 3:18 PM, Achilles said: I dread saying this out loud, but my super secret inside voice whispered, "maybe Obsidian is working on it" when I got to the end of that article I'm just going to put out there that Obsidian has a combat designer job posting that mentions "exceptional first-person gunplay experience" in Unreal Engine 4. I'm not sure how many guns they're planning to put in Avowed... (Note: More likely that's an Outer Worlds 2 posting) Edited October 26, 2021 by AdamMoore 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I'm just curious why the hell they would record VO this early. I wouldn't even think about recording VO at this stage unless I do it as a placeholder. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Obsidian recorded an awful lot of dialogue for the 'Syriana' version of Alpha Protocol. All (?) the levels got retasked, but a lot of the dialogue was ultimately recorded but discarded. There was a fair amount in KOTOR2 as well for that matter, hence the presence of VO in the restoration project. Not that AP was a particularly well run project of course- and there was a pretty good excuse for K2 given the, uh, short dev cycle- but it isn't just inexperienced devs that do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, AdamMoore said: I'm just going to put out there that Obsidian has a combat designer job posting And I'm just going to mention that since Alan stopped posting, we have an opening in the forum community for someone who's name starts with A. So far Amentep and Azdeus have been trying to cover the gap, but there is only so much they can do. (In comparison, we Ms have them outnumbered easily (high-five @marelookeand @Malcador)). * *Apologies to people who's username starts with A and who I did not count, like Agiel and Achilles. If I included you above, we Ms wouldn't outnumber you As, which would undermine the point of the post Edited October 26, 2021 by melkathi 1 1 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 hours ago, melkathi said: *Apologies to people who's username starts with A and who I did not count, like Agiel and Achilles. If I included you above, we Ms wouldn't outnumber you As, which would undermine the point of the post Yeah, that was a real arsehole move, Melky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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