Infinitron Posted March 20, 2019 Author Posted March 20, 2019 New tweet: https://twitter.com/OuterWorlds/status/1108423193138618369
kirottu Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 So it's also on Windows Store, what's the point of it being on EGS only then, just to **** on steam? Is this really how it is? Epic just wants to screw Steam? This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Gfted1 Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 So obviously the motivation is the bottom line, but does anyone know what that number is? I think Ive seen it mentioned that Steam gets .30 cent on the dollar. What is Epic cut? Is it so overwhelming as to mitigate the lost sales over the course of a year? Will anyone be interested in a year old game? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
FecklessFool Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Just logging in to say that this will be the first Obsidian game that I won't be buying. Well apart from that tank one or whatever. Also I'll just leave this here: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft-monopolise-pc-games-development-epic-games-gears-of-war 1
algroth Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 ThePirateBay, here we go! 1 My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden
Gfted1 Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 People are understandably upset, but lets please leave the pirating references out of the discussion. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
mewian Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 A shame. I was really looking forward to the Outer Worlds, but if I have to wait another year to play it without chinese spyware on my computer then so be it. 5
jf8350143 Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 So obviously the motivation is the bottom line, but does anyone know what that number is? I think Ive seen it mentioned that Steam gets .30 cent on the dollar. What is Epic cut? Is it so overwhelming as to mitigate the lost sales over the course of a year? Will anyone be interested in a year old game? Epic's cut is 12%, lower if the game uses unreal engine. That's 40% of what Steam takes, while they offer only 5% of the functions Steam offers. And they have the nerve to call Steam greedy. 4
Kadayi Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) I assume this was probably a publisher decision. I'll wait for the Steam Release. Edited March 20, 2019 by Kadayi
C2B Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Microsoft Store made this back to a maybe as I don't mind Microsoft as much anymore and well, they ARE first party now. Still, majorly disappointed, won't buy it at launch and a lot to make up for. Also generally the worst decision they could have made as they basically threw additional sales they gained through the transperency and the stance against microtransactions right out of the window again. And no Epic's money won't make up for the lost sales nor the sales they will lose in the future due to their damaged image. Edited March 20, 2019 by C2B
raaben Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Well, there goes one of the few games I was looking forward to this year. I'm not married to Steam, but I will not support Epic and their hoarding of exclusives and will not be buying. 2
Undecaf Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 That's 12 extra months worth of patches and personal assesment over whether this game is worth the full price. I can do that. 7 Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys."
Occisorx Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 I backed Pillars 1 and 2 and all I can say is **** OFF Obsidian this **** is bad and no reason other than a quick buck to be made 3
Voss Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 So obviously the motivation is the bottom line, but does anyone know what that number is? I think Ive seen it mentioned that Steam gets .30 cent on the dollar. What is Epic cut? Is it so overwhelming as to mitigate the lost sales over the course of a year? Will anyone be interested in a year old game? Epic's cut is 12%, lower if the game uses unreal engine. That's 40% of what Steam takes, while they offer only 5% of the functions Steam offers. And they have the nerve to call Steam greedy. Its also clearly temporary, and developers will end up getting screwed in the end alongside the customers they're happily screwing now. But a long term anti-consumer move for a short term larger slice of a smaller pie is exactly the sort of poorly thought out decision I'd expect from the current games industry.
FecklessFool Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Sales due to damaged reputation maybe, but Epic has probably paid them enough to be in the black even with 0 sales. The only way to stop the cancer of exclusivity growing on PC is to not support exclusive games. Fortnite must be making them a ton of cash if they're able to pay for these many exclusives. 1
jf8350143 Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Microsoft Store made this back to a maybe as I don't mind Microsoft as much anymore and well, they ARE first party now. Still, majorly disappointed, won't buy it at launch and a lot to make up for. Also generally the worst decision they could have made as they basically threw additional sales they gained through the transperency and the stance against microtransactions right out of the window again. And no Epic's money won't make up for the lost sales nor the sales they will lose in the future due to their damaged image. Epic's money might make up for the lost sales, but no amount of money can get the goodwill back. And it's even worse because it might be a publisher's decision, but it's always the dev's image getting hurt. That's one of the reason I hate EGS, they claim they wish the best for the developer, but in reality they only care about the interest of publishers. Edited March 20, 2019 by jf8350143 5
Infinitron Posted March 20, 2019 Author Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) It's kind of funny that Epic's reputation among Extremely Online Gamers is so bad that this news would actually have been more well-received if the game ONLY launched on the Windows Store. Edited March 20, 2019 by Infinitron 1
Superdeluxe Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 I hope you guys (Obsidian) didn't have any say in this, because as a consumer, this is ****ty. Please use this substandard platform to play our games! ~Seattle Supersonic of the Obsidian Order~ Chris Hansen is the Savior of Seattle
sumo Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 People are understandably upset, but lets please leave the pirating references out of the discussion. You also need to understand, people are angry. I've bought each game from Obsidian, and wanted to buy this one. But it seems to be that company does not care about me and other as for consumers. Now I'm not sure if I will buy this or any game in future. Awful feeling and shame on company decision... 1
jf8350143 Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 It's kind of funny that Epic's reputation among Extremely Online Gamers is so bad that this news would actually have been more well-received if the game ONLY launched on the Windows Store. Well it makes me open the Microsoft Store front page for the first time in my whole life. I'd probably buy something from it for the first time in my whole life as well simply because of this. I'd say it's a relatively efficient way to adversite the windows store.
Wormerine Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Hahaha! Straight from Snapshot forums to this. As a backer of Phoenix Point I will get Epic key and Gog after a year.With Outer Worlds I will be waiting for release on other platforms (preferably GOG but steam will do). I am not upset. I can wait. I need new PC anyway. That gives me more time to build one. 2
marelooke Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 It's kind of funny that Epic's reputation among Extremely Online Gamers is so bad that this news would actually have been more well-received if the game ONLY launched on the Windows Store. Well it makes me open the Microsoft Store front page for the first time in my whole life. I'd probably buy something from it for the first time in my whole life as well simply because of this. I'd say it's a relatively efficient way to adversite the windows store. The Windows Store is utter garbage though, I've used it for Forza games and it's been an issue for all three of the Forza games I've played through it, but at least it has user reviews, so it's got that over Epic's even lower effort attempt at a digital storefront. Talk about having to choose between ebola and the plague. 1
Flouride Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Really stupid decision by Private Division and Microsoft. That's some bad PR you really don't want, especially after how well received the game initially was. And naturally, it isn't Private Division and Microsoft taking the heat from casual twats. It's Obsidian. You've just bought a new studio and you start by doing this. PR wise this is exactly the move you should avoid. But I guess Epic paid enough dollars that no one cares for the developers burnt fanbase. Question is: Which one is worse MGS or EGS? With other exclusives I'll just wait until I can get the game dirt cheap, might actually want to buy this at release date. Edit: Just look at this thread. People are already cussing Obsidian, when it's not their decision. Just another proof that idiots have taken over the world. Edited March 20, 2019 by Flouride 5 Hate the living, love the dead.
Mikeymoonshine Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 I'm not buying this on epic either. I just don't want to use it, I put up with origin for disappointing bioware games and I'm sick of that, not gonna do the same with epic. So it's ms store or waiting for me too. It's a shame I was hoping this would be on gog. 1
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