Hurlshort Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Is it unusual to "donate" $10k and perform 18h of community service before you even go to court? Is that all? I got the impression he had a bunch of other community service and donations that helped his case.
Gfted1 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 The only other thing I know of is a few people going to bat for him. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Gromnir Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 The only other thing I know of is a few people going to bat for him. could be less 'bout folks going to bat for smollett and more 'bout prosecutor's office sending a message to the cops. have honest followed this very little, but sounds as if police handled the investigation and press conferences n' such w/o consulting prosecutor. letting smollett off the hook, as much as anything, could be the equivalent o' a rolled up newspaper to discipline the puppy who piddled on the carpet... again. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Volourn Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 "Chicago Police set him up, it'll be revealed in 10 years and the movie will be released 5 years after that." Explain the two brothers. Eve Smollette, while pleading his innocence, hasn't really explained the brothers' roles in this. Why did they claim he paid them for the attack? He sayd that is false so why did they lie? And, why were they caught on tape purchasing supplies used in said attack? And, if they did attack him without him paying them what was their motive? He also claims that at least one of the two men who attacked him was white so where are these mystery men/ Also, why and how would random white racist MAGA freaks in Chicago who watch a black focused show since they apparently knew who he was and also knew he would be out in the middle of a cold night looking to buy some sandwhichs? None of this logical. "could be less 'bout folks going to bat for smollett and more 'bout prosecutor's office sending a message to the cops. have honest followed this very little, but sounds as if police handled the investigation and press conferences n' such w/o consulting prosecutor. letting smollett off the hook, as much as anything, could be the equivalent o' a rolled up newspaper to discipline the puppy who piddled on the carpet... again. HA! Good Fun!" The prosecutor is a piece of garbage and if that is the excuse they failed at their job. A grand jury said there was enough evidenced - provided by the police and the prosecutor - to go trial yet the prosecutor claims to not want to do so because 'waste of time'? You now calim it is to 'punish' the police. I wonder if they had found the 'racist' scum who committed the attack.. would it be considered a waste of time to prosecute them? Hmmm.. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Gromnir Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 "could be less 'bout folks going to bat for smollett and more 'bout prosecutor's office sending a message to the cops. have honest followed this very little, but sounds as if police handled the investigation and press conferences n' such w/o consulting prosecutor. letting smollett off the hook, as much as anything, could be the equivalent o' a rolled up newspaper to discipline the puppy who piddled on the carpet... again. HA! Good Fun!" The prosecutor is a piece of garbage and if that is the excuse they failed at their job. A grand jury said there was enough evidenced - provided by the police and the prosecutor - to go trial yet the prosecutor claims to not want to do so because 'waste of time'? You now calim it is to 'punish' the police. didn't claim. "could be," is words used. and yeah, the police, trying a defendant in the media were gonna make the prosecution's job significant more difficult. would be serious and legit arguments that the defense were unduly prejudiced by cops, on tv, proclaiming the d-bagness o' smollett before trial. cops needed to be chastised regardless. prosecutor used smollett as an object lesson the police will not soon forget? seems far more likely than smollett having friends grease the wheels o' justice to get a favorable outcome. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
injurai Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 It seems to me like they don't want to prosecute a public figure with an otherwise fine public standing with the weight of the book. They also don't want to overrule the precedent of the book that gives it it's weight, which they wish to reserve for you everyday offenders. Why would the prosecutor try to teach the Police a lesson? It's not like investigations don't make incremental reports. Claiming that doing so was muddying parts of a trial process is not an excuse for exonerating a person on grounds of a rocky trial process. The act of realizing a trial had been primed by wrong priors is the exact clarity of thinking that would imply it's precisely the time to follow through with a just trial, not shirk. I think this was absolutely a case of the prosecutor protecting the prosecutors office by maintaining the power of their book. I also think there is some racially biased grace being given here. An attitude that punishing a symbolic acting out of hate crimes should be given a pass, as so many other hate crimes (some enacted by cops) go unpunished. In a sense the charges seem partially dropped as a form of out-of-channel justice, while maintaining the subjective strength of precedence.
smjjames Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 There was also the fact that the prosecutor either recused or quit the case due to being familiar with Smollett in some way. Which seems to have happened recently rather than at the start of the case, for some reason.
Guard Dog Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Dunno about that. He deliberately tried ti inflame racial, political, and social tensions for selfish reasons. So your saying he deserves his own talk radio show? 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
smjjames Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Huh, someone on another forum I'm on noted that one of Smolletts lawyers is apparently Mike Geragos, the co-conspirator in Avenattis sleazy extortion scam stuff. That could possibly have been a factor in the whole charges getting dropped, no idea.
Guard Dog Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 It was pretty average before he edited it! 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Chilloutman Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
smjjames Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Would be nice if Republicans like him would actually give their own proposals and counteroffers. The fact that the Republicans don't offer their own ideas is the reason why the New Green Deal is a thing. Can't have a true discussion of ideas if the other side doesn't have any ideas of their own and keeps rejecting all of the other sides.
Chilloutman Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 maybe their stance is that its fine like its now so there is no need for change? Just speculating I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Pidesco Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 maybe their stance is that its fine like its now so there is no need for change? Just speculating Their stance is that corporate money fits really snugly in their pocket. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Gfted1 Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Can't have a true discussion of ideas if the other side doesn't have any ideas of their own and keeps rejecting all of the other sides. Imo, an idea can be stupid all by itself without requiring a counterproposal. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Malcador Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Always thought stupid crap like that belonged with Congressmen and not Senators. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Pidesco Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Can't have a true discussion of ideas if the other side doesn't have any ideas of their own and keeps rejecting all of the other sides. Imo, an idea can be stupid all by itself without requiring a counterproposal. Tackling climate change doesn't fall under that, in any way, whatsoever. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Chilloutman Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 maybe their stance is that its fine like its now so there is no need for change? Just speculating Their stance is that corporate money fits really snugly in their pocket. like on other side of spectrum is it any different I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Pidesco Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 maybe their stance is that its fine like its now so there is no need for change? Just speculating Their stance is that corporate money fits really snugly in their pocket. like on other side of spectrum is it any different Tell me about that immense amount of lobbying money that goes towards pushing climate change action. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Gfted1 Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 Tackling climate change doesn't fall under that, in any way, whatsoever. Yeah, but the other 99% socialist part of the bill does. Cherry picking is fun though! "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Chilloutman Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 maybe their stance is that its fine like its now so there is no need for change? Just speculating Their stance is that corporate money fits really snugly in their pocket. like on other side of spectrum is it any different Tell me about that immense amount of lobbying money that goes towards pushing climate change action. Well i dont know how its in US but in our small country there was hughe lobby for solar plants, we are still paying for them by tax payer money 10 years after. It was awesome business as politicians guaranteed price for buying out that energy. Of course half of those were build from EU funds so it was big win/win for anyone who was involved except people who actually have to pay for it. And don't let me start on how 'ecological' is manufacturing and then 'recycling' of those panels... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
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