New free DLC

[Nemesis7884]

The small nr of portraits is a bit lazy tough

Edited June 8, 2018 by Nemesis7884

[Boeroer]

 

Wow great. Shame companions dialogue still broken but they totally fix it in the next path ye.

 

Seriously?

 

Dopsim hates the forum community and wanted to leave us. But obviously he can't let go. We are just too charming. So cut him some slack.

[tinysalamander]

Dopsim hates the forum community and wanted to leave us. But obviously he can't let go. We are just too charming. So cut him some slack.

 

I suspect someone is abusing whisper of treason…

[Lord_Mord]

 

Except in this case, something isn't being taken from someone who works and given to someone who doesn't.

 

Funny, I always thought socialism was about giving everyone what he deserves for his hard work and making shure that nobody gets 1000 times more than what he deserves. But probably I'm just a communist traitor, who hates The Vailian Republics democracy freedom people in general.

Edited June 8, 2018 by Lord_Mord

[Nemesis7884]

my gut tells me they already prepared some dlc stuff as appeasement policy because they knew they had to release the game before the final iteration / balancing could take place....its the same as brining some flower when going home drunk to your wife

[Tagaziel]

I'm amused by the "oh noes, not finally balanced!!11!!!!" complaints. No game was ever perfectly balanced on release. Ever. Especially since there are things that only come out when you have several tens of thousands of players figuring the game out and using it in ways not foreseen. Starcraft was fine tuned for years, as was Pillars of Eternity, not to mention the countless adjustments in MMOs.

[evilcat]

hey now I'm generation X who thinks free dlc is a good value. Don't lump me in with millennials. I work for a living.

It is opposite.

Millenials love tatooed polar bears, free Wi-Fi, and lumberjack beards. So free hairy dlc is as millenial as could be.

 

As for myster:

Graphic artist are less busy with bug fixes, so making hats and beards and counting it as marketing pr spending is fair to the working class.

[rjshae]

 

This DLC interface is squirrely. I'm never quite sure if it is loading something.

 

I wonder if there would be a console command to find out, maybe someone from Obs could weigh in here?

 

I've had a couple of instances now where the Steam library page for PoE2 shows the DLC in the list, but it has a state of "Not Installed". If I deselect then reselect the DLC, it downloads something then sets it to installed. Perhaps then there's a bug and this is a work-around.

[Larkson]

Well, I'm certainly happy over getting free stuff even if it is of things I likely wont use; it is not like I'm being forced to download it. Would appreciate more skintones for godlike though. 

 

Hint hint. Nudge nudge. 

[rjshae]

I'm amused by the "oh noes, not finally balanced!!11!!!!" complaints. No game was ever perfectly balanced on release. Ever. Especially since there are things that only come out when you have several tens of thousands of players figuring the game out and using it in ways not foreseen. Starcraft was fine tuned for years, as was Pillars of Eternity, not to mention the countless adjustments in MMOs.

 

Yes, it seems likely that this is the type of game that does require a lot of fine tuning. The devs are giving the players a lot of choices in character creation, so the state space for all possible configuration combinations will be enormous. It wouldn't surprise me to see many more refinements in the coming months.

[Dant3]

 

 

I've had a couple of instances now where the Steam library page for PoE2 shows the DLC in the list, but it has a state of "Not Installed". If I deselect then reselect the DLC, it downloads something then sets it to installed. Perhaps then there's a bug and this is a work-around.

 

 

Can confirm, happened to me as well and deselecting/reselecting works.

[SonicMage117]

Shame that they focus on releasing free dlc instead fixing their game. Obsidian offers you a gift to blind you from their laziness.

Prepare to get attacked, this forum is no place for reasonable criticism or logical explanations! Haha On guard, touché, my sword's bigger than yours!

[Tagaziel]

Yes, it seems likely that this is the type of game that does require a lot of fine tuning. The devs are giving the players a lot of choices in character creation, so the state space for all possible configuration combinations will be enormous. It wouldn't surprise me to see many more refinements in the coming months.

  

     

Given that Pillars 1 was refined enormously over the years, definitely.

[wih]

 

Shame that they focus on releasing free dlc instead fixing their game. Obsidian offers you a gift to blind you from their laziness.

Prepare to get attacked, this forum is no place for reasonable criticism or logical explanations! Haha On guard, touché, my sword's bigger than yours!

 

 

Why is it so hard to accept that some things can happen in parallel, rather than consequentially? Obsidian just released a patch containing hundreds of fixes and balancing. At the same time they released the free DLC. It seems logical to assume that the patch was done by programmers and gameplay designers while the DLC was done by artitsts. You know - because the DLC contains only art.

Edited June 9, 2018 by wih

[acbatchelor]

 

 

Except in this case, something isn't being taken from someone who works and given to someone who doesn't.

 

Funny, I always thought socialism was about giving everyone what he deserves for his hard work and making shure that nobody gets 1000 times more than what he deserves. But probably I'm just a communist traitor, who hates The Vailian Republics democracy freedom people in general.

 

 

That's the way it's supposed to work but it doesn't. It's like welfare in America. If you keep giving people something for free, a lot of them eventually stop working and just take the free stuff instead. Why keep working when you can get about as much from the government, meanwhile those who do work are punished with supporting themselves and those other people. There's a balance to the world. You can't have light without darkness (and vice versa), and unfortunately you can't have rich without poor.

 

Anyway, I hope nobody is really taking this too seriously. I was basically just making a joke. 

[TheisEjsing]

 

Shame that they focus on releasing free dlc instead fixing their game. Obsidian offers you a gift to blind you from their laziness.

Prepare to get attacked, this forum is no place for reasonable criticism or logical explanations! Haha On guard, touché, my sword's bigger than yours!

 

Except that the only one who attacked anyone here was that rhugga guy. So violently that it got deleted. Obsidian shows no laziness. They're fixing, tuning, etc. But they got staff like Dimitri Berman who is an artist, and isn't part of that, and they're making free dlcs with cosmetic updates. How can anyone be angry about that. You're right Sonic, his criticism is really without logical reasoning behind it.

 

Edit: Didn't see Wih posted most my posts points above. ^_^

Edited June 9, 2018 by TheisEjsing

[Purudaya]

 

 

 

Except in this case, something isn't being taken from someone who works and given to someone who doesn't.

 

Funny, I always thought socialism was about giving everyone what he deserves for his hard work and making shure that nobody gets 1000 times more than what he deserves. But probably I'm just a communist traitor, who hates The Vailian Republics democracy freedom people in general.

 

 

That's the way it's supposed to work but it doesn't. It's like welfare in America. If you keep giving people something for free, a lot of them eventually stop working and just take the free stuff instead. Why keep working when you can get about as much from the government, meanwhile those who do work are punished with supporting themselves and those other people. There's a balance to the world. You can't have light without darkness (and vice versa), and unfortunately you can't have rich without poor.

 

Anyway, I hope nobody is really taking this too seriously. I was basically just making a joke. 

 

 

Except that 70% of people who receive public assistance have jobs. I know you didn't mean to start a serious debate, but WIC gave me a future so these talk radio myths kind of stick in my craw: if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to accept food stamps or housing assistance (there is no such thing as a welfare check), you'll know that almost no one chooses it as their only means of subsistence in the way that you're describing. "Welfare" doesn't deter work, it saves underpaid working people from falling through the cracks into homelessness and crime (which cost the taxpayer far more than some free groceries does).

 

This is the last I'll say on the subject because it's way off-topic. Also, socialism is only the public ownership of the means of production - it's communism that attempts to eliminate inequality through the redistribution of wealth   

 

 

 

 

Edited June 9, 2018 by Purudaya

[ThacoBell]

 

 

 

 

Except in this case, something isn't being taken from someone who works and given to someone who doesn't.

 

Funny, I always thought socialism was about giving everyone what he deserves for his hard work and making shure that nobody gets 1000 times more than what he deserves. But probably I'm just a communist traitor, who hates The Vailian Republics democracy freedom people in general.

 

 

That's the way it's supposed to work but it doesn't. It's like welfare in America. If you keep giving people something for free, a lot of them eventually stop working and just take the free stuff instead. Why keep working when you can get about as much from the government, meanwhile those who do work are punished with supporting themselves and those other people. There's a balance to the world. You can't have light without darkness (and vice versa), and unfortunately you can't have rich without poor.

 

Anyway, I hope nobody is really taking this too seriously. I was basically just making a joke. 

 

 

Except that 70% of people who receive public assistance have jobs. I know you didn't mean to start a serious debate, but WIC gave me a future so these talk radio myths kind of stick in my craw: if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to accept food stamps or housing assistance (there is no such thing as a welfare check), you'll know that almost no one chooses it as their only means of subsistence in the way that you're describing. "Welfare" doesn't deter work, it saves underpaid working people from falling through the cracks into homelessness and crime (which cost the taxpayer far more than some free groceries does).

 

This is the last I'll say on the subject because it's way off-topic. Also, socialism is only the public ownership of the means of production - it's communism that attempts to eliminate inequality through the redistribution of wealth   

 

 

 

 

 

Not to mention the disabled that cannot work.

[topologista]

free raising vela to be a pirate dlc when???

[InsaneCommander]

free raising vela to be a pirate dlc when???

 

Technically she already is one. She drinks ale and call you captain.

[acbatchelor]

 

 

 

 

Except in this case, something isn't being taken from someone who works and given to someone who doesn't.

 

Funny, I always thought socialism was about giving everyone what he deserves for his hard work and making shure that nobody gets 1000 times more than what he deserves. But probably I'm just a communist traitor, who hates The Vailian Republics democracy freedom people in general.

 

 

That's the way it's supposed to work but it doesn't. It's like welfare in America. If you keep giving people something for free, a lot of them eventually stop working and just take the free stuff instead. Why keep working when you can get about as much from the government, meanwhile those who do work are punished with supporting themselves and those other people. There's a balance to the world. You can't have light without darkness (and vice versa), and unfortunately you can't have rich without poor.

 

Anyway, I hope nobody is really taking this too seriously. I was basically just making a joke. 

 

 

Except that 70% of people who receive public assistance have jobs. I know you didn't mean to start a serious debate, but WIC gave me a future so these talk radio myths kind of stick in my craw: if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to accept food stamps or housing assistance (there is no such thing as a welfare check), you'll know that almost no one chooses it as their only means of subsistence in the way that you're describing. "Welfare" doesn't deter work, it saves underpaid working people from falling through the cracks into homelessness and crime (which cost the taxpayer far more than some free groceries does).

 

This is the last I'll say on the subject because it's way off-topic. Also, socialism is only the public ownership of the means of production - it's communism that attempts to eliminate inequality through the redistribution of wealth   

 

 

 

 

 

 

Public assistance is a lot more than just welfare though. Growing up, I've seen whole families getting welfare without having a job and they didn't even look for a job because of it. I don't have a problem with people who actually need assistance getting it like disability or food stamps for poor people. However, too many people get it that don't need it. I know someone who makes about $50K - $60K per year and still gets food stamps. I just think some (if not all) governments hand out money like crazy and don't care. Also, I see tons of so called poor people walking around using $800 smart phones with $200 a month phone bill lol. 

 

Anyway, I agree with you. This is getting off-topic so I'll stop talking about this now.

[ArcticFeed]

Why no beards for Aumaua?

[Fardragon]

 

 

 

 

 

Except in this case, something isn't being taken from someone who works and given to someone who doesn't.

 

Funny, I always thought socialism was about giving everyone what he deserves for his hard work and making shure that nobody gets 1000 times more than what he deserves. But probably I'm just a communist traitor, who hates The Vailian Republics democracy freedom people in general.

 

 

That's the way it's supposed to work but it doesn't. It's like welfare in America. If you keep giving people something for free, a lot of them eventually stop working and just take the free stuff instead. Why keep working when you can get about as much from the government, meanwhile those who do work are punished with supporting themselves and those other people. There's a balance to the world. You can't have light without darkness (and vice versa), and unfortunately you can't have rich without poor.

 

Anyway, I hope nobody is really taking this too seriously. I was basically just making a joke. 

 

 

Except that 70% of people who receive public assistance have jobs. I know you didn't mean to start a serious debate, but WIC gave me a future so these talk radio myths kind of stick in my craw: if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have to accept food stamps or housing assistance (there is no such thing as a welfare check), you'll know that almost no one chooses it as their only means of subsistence in the way that you're describing. "Welfare" doesn't deter work, it saves underpaid working people from falling through the cracks into homelessness and crime (which cost the taxpayer far more than some free groceries does).

 

This is the last I'll say on the subject because it's way off-topic. Also, socialism is only the public ownership of the means of production - it's communism that attempts to eliminate inequality through the redistribution of wealth   

 

 

 

 

 

 

Public assistance is a lot more than just welfare though. Growing up, I've seen whole families getting welfare without having a job and they didn't even look for a job because of it. I don't have a problem with people who actually need assistance getting it like disability or food stamps for poor people. However, too many people get it that don't need it. I know someone who makes about $50K - $60K per year and still gets food stamps. I just think some (if not all) governments hand out money like crazy and don't care. Also, I see tons of so called poor people walking around using $800 smart phones with $200 a month phone bill lol. 

 

Anyway, I agree with you. This is getting off-topic so I'll stop talking about this now.

 

 

A lot of people don't work because they have inherited wealth. Following your logic, all inherited wealth should be confiscated, so that those people have to work, and therefore become productive members of society.

[Ichthyic]

is there a way to block someone on these forums?

I'd like to block each and every person that starts a political or societal argument on a gaming forum.  and not just this one.

 

[Night Stalker]

is there a way to block someone on these forums?

 

Sure there is - click on your user profile in the upper left corner -> Manage Ignore prefs.