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"Such is the price for competing with your own stellar legacy, but even taken purely on the merits of what's offered here, Jade Empire remains a linear, abbreviated experience that, while ambitious and gorgeous to behold, is not Bioware's finest hour." ---from 1up It's kinda hard when Bio is going up against the legacy of the BG series or even KOTOR. Meh. I'm exhausted from reading reviews, so I just read the intro and concluding paragraphs.

Heh. You know what? I can't believe I'm carrying this little debate over multiple forums... Regardless, ain't like I got a vested interest in gamespot anyhow. For what its worth, gamespot's review, of the big three, seems to be the one that brought out the fanboy in me for JE. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Roofles!

I don't see how some of you see Gamespot's review as being overtly negative. He does state that he isn't too fond of the combat system. He does state that the game is too short. He does imply that this is a dumbed-down rpg. BUT... He loves the story. He loves the graphics and attention to detail. He loves the sound and voice acting. He loves the replayability. And he recommends this game for its targeted audience. Namely, US. I don't see Greg K. as being contradictory or negative at all. I see it as being fair, critical, and positive.

Wrong. Unlike you, he doesn't think in absolutes. He writes what's bad about it, but then also praises what's good about it too.

And last I checked, TSL is outselling RC on the PC.

Ouch.

Where can I find these and should they all be installed together? Much appreciated! Cheers, FD <{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://modlist.pocketplane.net/index.php?ax=list&cat_id=97

The Fallouts and Vampire have no goblins and elves. But those games as previously listed above are considered the modern classics of the rpg genre. It just so happens that many of them contain goblins and elves. I think it's worth a shot if you can get past the green skin and pointy ears.

You know...I was thinking I forgot something from that list. NWN. heh.

Here's the list: Start out with Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II. Expansion packs for both are optional, but recommended. Then go try Fallout and Fallout 2. Planescape Torment. Icewind Dale + Icewind Dale 2. Those games seem to be the general (not absolute) consensus around these here parts. Other games of note: Arcanum, Temple of Elemental Evil, and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. *Addendum: Jade Empire is coming out next week for the xbox.

No high school rpg??

In response to the topic starter's question: It is Bethesda and Interplay. Bethesda has the rights to the franchise but Interplay owns the rights to FOOL =)

The primary reason why I got an x-box was for Jade Empire.

Heck, I'm getting Jade Empire just because of the box! Shiny, limited edition foil. *drools*

I actually like his polls. Unlike many others, they're not boring and can be well thought out...on occassion. But he still needs to be fed to the mighty Sarlacc.

Oh yeah, you're real classy Kaftan. First you belittle her work. Now you belittle her name? So you've never heard of the practice of cultural diffusion? Where ideas, names, traits, etc., are spread from one society to another? It happens all over the world, especially in areas where people of differing backgrounds live together. Such as Malaysia.

Okay. That makes sense. For what its worth, John Morgan did say that next game they're working on isn't Bio-related. Hopefully they already have a publisher lined up. Wouldn't want what happened to Troika happen here.

Reserving the judgment of Atari for another time ---but what's so bad about the idea of Bioware as a publisher? I'd think that they'd be successful as an independant, small-scale publisher. Not that they are even publishers to begin with...

K2 was announced sometime in mid May while the Obsidian forums opened in early Feb.

"supershadow sucks" Supershadow is great! Just look at the response his very name invokes. lol.

Would an MCA's designed HS RPG set in the 80's include all the usual clique archetypes as NPCs I wonder?

That

Wow. Someone actually venting about this game's difficulty. This is a first.

Drunken shaving incident... That's funny.

I'll take Aimo's interpretation.