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Perhaps true for a physical store, but if we're talking general availability (including order-from-company-site, etc)... then the answer becomes less obvious, doesnt it? For example, does the success of Warcraft III push out some of the other RTSs that might well have captured those people - often casual ones that have no time for more than one - 's attention? That may not be saturation in the strict sense, but perhaps that the loss of sales for many FPS/RTS's aren't entirely due to the fact that people don't want to play them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then in my opinion there's another variable affecting things: market exposure (which I did mention). Naturally a game with substantially more market exposure is going to do better, simply because it's name is out there (and brand recognition advertising does work). And yes, there may be people that only have the ability to play one game, but in my opinion (and that's all any of us can really do, unless one was willing to take the time to do an analysis of the market), gamers for the most part are pretty affluent. I don't think their buying power is scarce enough. In 2003, a quarter of the people polled purchase at least 1 game per month (some many more) link. This might not seem like much, but according to people at the ESA, E-Poll, and game daily, gamers reported that they anticipate their game purchase frequency to increase (here's a quick catchall link). Furthermore, it's more difficult to saturate a market such as video games. Purchasing one video game does not seem to have much influence on the purchase of a different video game, at least with respect to many appliances and whatnot. People typically don't own 2 or 3 fridges. If I already own a fridge, the chances of me going out and buying another one are slim. This is also irrelevant of my income. And buying a fridge from one company, typically means a loss of a sale for all the other companies (the crux of market saturation). Even in a situation where someone does not have much money to spend on a video game, if an excellent quality game comes out, the cheap cost, in addition to the unique nature (in terms of possible game mechanics, storyline, etc. etc.) means that it is easier to purchase the game, both from a monetary and motivational aspect. If gaming was a much more expensive hobby, then FPS/RTS games may be approaching saturation. But as it stands, I feel the ability (and motivation) to acquire an additional game is quite easy. All of this also ignores subtypes within the genres. Battlefield 2 and Half-Life 2 are both FPS games, but they also appeal to different markets of FPS fans.

Sorry. It's just it plays very much like a 1989 game :\ Though I still might give it another go, but the prospect of alt-tabbing between the manual and the game itself just pulled me out of it.

That's more reflective of the games industry as a whole, rather than just FPS or RTS games. There being lots of games does not mean the market is saturated. I'd wager it's not more saturated than the RPG market. Besides, I'm willing to bet that the games sold poorly due to being a crap game, rather than the market being saturated. I'm not convinced that the sales of FPS 1 were down because sales of FPS 2 were high. If FPS 1 and FPS 2 are both good games, they'll both sell. I think you're confusing market saturation with an abundance of selection. If there's 6 high quality FPS games out there with equal market exposure and essentially everything being equal between them, I can't see the sales of all 6 coming at the expense of the other 5. When I go into a computer store, all I see are games that people are willing to buy. Not surprisingly, the niche RPG market has very few, the popular FPS/RTS have lots...particularly on the computer. If disagreeing with someone is having my panties in a bunch, then everyone here has their panties in a bunch, yourself included. Though I'm not the one tossing out random insults.

That would explain why I already quit playing it "

I'm not sure how much the penalties will affect the Germans, but Maginot line should be able to hold out with a virtual skeleton crew. Once the gearing up for war events occur, you might want to do some upgrading as well, or possibly even scraping. 1936 infantry is pretty much twice as good as 1918 infantry, and is the biggest generational change. You don't have much manpower, so you have to do what you can to survive against likely larger numbers. Not sure if it might be best to go with planes. If you do end up getting steamrolled, I'd recommend playing Germany. They get a ton of events, and have a pretty easy go at things to start, with more resistance later on. Oh, and try not to go on offensives in the winter If you have any questions about anything, make a HOI2 thread and I'll be more than happy to help out. Welcome aboard :D

Playing as France to start things off? Good Luck! (you're gonna need it).

I've never played it When I first played Fallout, I don't think I was that big into PC gaming at the time. EDIT: Found it on Underdogs. Hopefully it doesn't feel too dated, being a 1989 game.

Heh, I too have overlooked many games because I ended up getting too many games at once.

Same reason we watch horror movies

I need to start playing The Sims? What?

Which game is that?

If it wasn't saturated, there would be more of them. Furthermore, if the market of FPS and RTS were saturated, they wouldn't be so successful. Remember, "The market" is not just "what Kalfear wants to play." Not really. Games don't get made that quickly. And if you haven't already, I suggest playing Geneforge

Yes it's a Spiderweb Software game.

I guess it depends on what type of music you listen too. The same could probably be said for art.

It's on expansion right now?

It looked more like Yoda was reflecting the lightning.

Then many expansions are just expansion packs. Not sure what you are trying to say though. IMO the simplest definition of an expansion pack is something that requires the original game. Would an FPS that just licensed the Unreal engine just be an expansion pack of Unreal? I'm seriously confused. EDIT: What the heck are we arguing/discussing?

Well, it's just that his big beef is with the companies no longer making the games that he likes to play. Geneforge is a throwback to those old school RPG goodness, and it's cheap. Though I do find it interesting how many "hardcore RPG" fans find many excuses to not get it. I think they just don't want to admit that they don't like the dated graphics.

Or he could have just gone to the first page of this thread.

It's what I do.

I wonder if Kalfear has played Geneforge.

It wouldn't be the first time that a sequel uses the same graphics, and much of the same code, as its predecessor.

why? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ... I was being sarcastic. Even if I wasn't kidding around, it's a subtle compliment to the poster anyways. Besides, CrashGirl saw it for what it was, and that's all that matters.

Your logic and reasoning are not welcome here.

What about the mod that lets you have long hair though? "