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I totally love that.

Now this is absolutely true.

They should not be especially difficult and therefore don't need to be nerfed. If you find them difficult please don't go to Longwatch Falls to do the bounty there or try to mess with the native lagufaeth. Maybe you have encountered a bug that used to stack defenses onto the animats every time you reload. But that should be fixed by now - unless you are not using the actual patch. It may also be that your character level is too low (?). Did the hut yesterday with lvl 9 and it went smooth (on PotD with a party of six).

Arcane Dampener also works for removing immunities to afflictions in an AoE. There's also a ring with that.

*sigh* yet another test...

Yes - these monks with their servant paladins and priests are real buggers. You can't even lure them into the lagufaeth - they will just gang up on you and hit you even harder.

Hehe: yes, Interfering stacks. Had them all down to 62 ACC instead of 92. Then I did my barbaric shout: "You can't hit me, nananana!" edit: or alternatively: "U can't touch this... HAMMER TIME!"

What a team of 6 barbs, one with The White Spite, the second one with Vile Loner's Lance, the third with Wodewys, the fourth with The Hours of St. Rumbalt, the Fifth with Tall Grass and the sixth with The Temaperacl would be able to do? I'm tempted to plan another playthrough... oh nooo! edit: Maybe Interfering like on Lost Thayn's Reach also stacks? Will test that now...

Maybe - you should run a test if the overall DPS in an encounter is higher with the White Spire. Oh wait - that's a rhyme! Sweet! The good thing is that you can buy it early. BotEP comes bit late or not? Of course you can always use the White Spire (while you light a fire*) first and then switch to BotEP later. )* just for the rhyme

That's right. Level 6 is a bit early for Stalwart.

Is the invocation that turns you into a good warrior any good against dragons?

I updated the posting. You can do it just as good with Vile Loner's Lance and a small shield. You don't need an empty hand. A durgan refined shield gives you 15% extra speed and more deflection - that's worth it. A good thing is to debuff with a long lasting spell. Aspirant's Mark works really well. When it becomes 1/encounter it will be perfect for this build. At the moment it's 2/rest which isn't superbad. If you start with this the rest of the debuffing will be quicker.

Give us grenades! Please! Ah - and whips! While you are at it...

Hahaha - that guy really plays the squeaky wheel.

LOL! Yeah... sadly I'm too weak to resist. My eyebags look like Sparfel's waterskin... But I'm doing no playthroughs at the moment so that's something. Tomorrow I will start another working project so maybe this will really be the last day testing some builds. And here's the result with Vile Loner's Lance and a small shield (no hammer involved): As you can see it's nearly the same. It also went below 0 a lot but I missed the right moment to take a picture. Whatever - Barbaric Blow is really nice with this (and HoF of course) - and because you can stack a little more ACC on the spear than you could if you were dual wielding spear/hammer you produce more crits - which leads to longer duration of the disabling - which leads to more crits... so long story short: it's nearly as effective. This might turn out to be a really good build even for midgame: not too low deflection, nice debuffing and ok damage. I dumped MIG by the way and did not take Vuln. Attack but still had 30+ damage hits because all of my hits were crits - imagine that with a second damage dealing barb (Firebrand?) in a double team - or even with a priest who casts Crowns for the Faithful and Painful Interdiction - ouch! p.s.: for you I drew another silly picture, AndreaColombo.

I agree. Stunning Shots alone is awesome.

True - but they only have crappy class talents - so there's more room for defensive ones that could possibly raise your chanter near the level of a paladin? I mean you can alwys chant some defensive chants to make up for a few points of defense. And you can always switch chants. Start wit short, protective chants to call a summon, then switch to AoE damage - or something like that...? Ok, solo against dragons is a totally different thing.

At level 10 the Lagufaeths should be doable even in Longwatch Falls I think. Never tried them with scaled content because I like to go to Stalwart as soon as possible to fetch all these nice unique items.

I'm pretty sure he's not more effective. Like... a 120% sure. He's doing great things against one single target, no doubt about that. I also like my Twinned Arrows ranger. But he's not doing this in an AoE like the barb. Driving Flight doesn't work with on-hit-effects (except the x%-trigger things like Stormcaller and others of WM have). Plus: Lenas Er, Stunning Shots and Twinned Arrows come really late AND your pet has to be alive and kicking to trigger stunning shots. I prefer Stormcaller since you can get (and unlock it to exceptional) way earlier. This guy debuffs whole mobs - not just one single target. Not only with the bebuffs but also with interrupts as a bonus. If you combine very high INT with an overseeing item and the enemies are not too big (like ogres) you easily can reach 5-6 foes at once. With Barbaric Blow and Heart of Fury (if you need a debuff NOW) even the Vile Loner's Lance is enough - and that thing you can have very early if you want.

What about a chanter with all defense +10 talents, sup. deflection, cautious attack and the Dragon Slashed chant? It's a little bit like Sacred Immolation but comes earlier. Plus you can have very flexible buffs if you need them. And summons. Are his defenses still too weak for soloing?

More FoD uses (however achieved) would be so cool. I love my gunslinging paladins with Intense Flames, burning lash and Scion of Flame.

Thanks to this thread I could invent this: barb disabler Thanks a lot guys!

Speaking about gear-centric: barb disabler

Yeah, as I said: if your defenses are high it's nothing - if they are low it's your death sentence.

I gave the barb Aspirant's Mark (should be 1/encounter after WM II comes out) and all speed stuff and shouts, VIle Loner's and Strike Hard. They are not only disorienting weapons, they also have nice interrupt ratings (0.5 and 1.0) so I also took Interrupting Blows. Behold the power of the Disorienting Roflcopter: :-D And that's without the terrifiy-shout! Heart of Fury is a BIG thing here also: Because it does a Full Attack in an AoE PLUS carnage you an stack up the disorienting effect to ridiculous amounts. But even without it the defenses are whimpy. Groups of tough enemies suddenly become soft, wet toast. Have to try if you also can achieve this with one weapon (Vile Loner's) and shield. Hammer and spear really gives you the look of an imbecile. Will post a build when WM II comes out... edit: the fortitude and reflex defenses are not known - they should be nearly as low as the rest. Fort might be a bit higher (20-30) because ogres have a lot of that.