Politics 2017 part 4

[Wrath of Dagon]

The primary purpose behind the judicial branch is to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

That's actually not the primary purpose, it's one of the purposes. The primary purpose is to interpret the law in an objective and impartial manner (lol)

[Ben No.3]

how is it related to what we were talking about?

You said you didn't know much about Catalonia ^^

[Elerond]

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/mike-pence-private-email/98637782/

Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked

 

Vice President Mike Pence routinely used a private email account to conduct public business as governor of Indiana, at times discussing sensitive matters and homeland security issues.

 

Emails released to The Indianapolis Star, part of the USA TODAY Network, in response to a public records request show Pence communicated via his personal AOL account with top advisers on topics ranging from security gates at the governor’s residence to the state’s response to terror attacks across the globe. In one email, Pence’s top state homeland security adviser relayed an update from the FBI regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror-related charges.

 

 

Don't think Pence was required to have a security clearance as governor of Indiana. Plus AOL email is still a hell of a lot more secure than Hillary's private server.

Which is probably why his account was hacked, where Hilary's server was not

[Volourn]

"Let's say there are 49% women and 51% men in a country. What would stop the men from declaring all women slaves?"

 

Because you are Assuming that all men think the same and all would want women to be slaves. It should be noted that most of history women have outnumbered men... yet women haven't  joined together in any democracy to make men slaves because not all women think the same. Duh.
 

[Hurlshort]

This thread is turning into the plot of Rex Nebular and the Cosmic Gender Bender

 

 

Game titles used to be way cooler.

[Meshugger]

Ben's intense dwellings in ideology is almost worrysome.

 

This is my prediction: Within 5 years he will either become a hardline Jihadist or a National socialist.

 

Somone screencap this.

[Ben No.3]

Don't tell a German he will become a Nazi!

 

Seriously

 

That is ignorant on so many levels.

 

 

Besides, all I did was questioning current ideologies. So please. Shut up. All I want is a nice debate. There is no need for this ad hominem crap, So do me a favour and shut up.

Edited March 3, 2017 by Ben No.3

[213374U]

"Let's say there are 49% women and 51% men in a country. What would stop the men from declaring all women slaves?"

 

Because you are Assuming that all men think the same and all would want women to be slaves. It should be noted that most of history women have outnumbered men... yet women haven't  joined together in any democracy to make men slaves because not all women think the same. Duh.

 

Heh.

 

You don't need all 100% of %group% to join together into a homogeneous majority voting bloc, that rarely ever happens.

 

What happens is apathy among voters, misinformation, shilling, cronyism, plain old corruption and outright idiocy often allow small groups to exert influence that is disproportionate compared to their actual size.

 

For instance. This is how Spanish hardcore female supremacists have essentially made all men into second-class citizens (site sux but at least it has its facts mostly straight in that particular issue):

 

https://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/government-tyranny/spanish-feminist-establishment-is-shaking/

 

It wasn't 100% of women that came together to vote in the assclown president that introduced the bill. Hell, most women I've spoken to don't like the law after a careful read. Regardless, it is the law, and it was enacted "democratically". Fun times.

Edited March 3, 2017 by 213374U

[Blarghagh]

Don't tell a German he will become a Nazi!

 

Seriously

 

That is ignorant on so many levels.

 

 

Besides, all I did was questioning current ideologies. So please. Shut up.

Telling people what they are and aren't allowed to say. Typical Nazi.

 

...said the Moderator.

[Malcador]

This forum needs a grimdark intro video.

[HoonDing]

Du bist alle Verräter.

[Ben No.3]

Du bist alle Verräter.

Du bist *ein Verräter=you (sg) are a traitor

 

*Ihr seid alle Verräter=you (pl) are all traitors

[Barothmuk]

Gandhi, my friends, is a full on anarchist

Except for his support for the state, capitalism and World War I.

Ben's intense dwellings in ideology is almost worrysome.

 

This is my prediction: Within 5 years he will either become a hardline Jihadist or a National socialist.

 

Somone screencap this.

Capitalism's commodification of identity in action.

 

Communism, anarchism, fascism, etc; these are no longer concrete political movements but commodities, products to consume and provide a sense of individuality. However just like every other product these ideologies have an expiry date and so the consumer will toss the ideology aside and move on to something else.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Barothmuk

[Guard Dog]

The primary purpose behind the judicial branch is to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

 

Sorry but you are way off here. If the law favors the majority over a minority the judiciary (acting properly) will follow the law. And vice versa.

[HoonDing]

My -ism can beat up your -ism.

[Hurlshort]

 

The primary purpose behind the judicial branch is to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

Sorry but you are way off here. If the law favors the majority over a minority the judiciary (acting properly) will follow the law. And vice versa.

I probably should not have said primary, but if that law violates the constitutional rights of a minority, it is the judiciary's responsibility to challenge the law. Now I am now lawyer, so I totally could be talking out my butt, but that has always been my impression. Isnt that part of the whole rock paper scissors government we have? 3 branches with checks and balances?

[Wrath of Dagon]

Actually it's the responsibility of the judiciary to strike down any law that violates the Constitution, minority or not. Also it's not RPS since the other two branches can not legally override the judiciary.

[Longknife]

Guys if I'm half-German am I a half Nazi? How do I know which half of my body hates jewish people?

[Hurlshort]

Actually it's the responsibility of the judiciary to strike down any law that violates the Constitution, minority or not. Also it's not RPS since the other two branches can not legally override the judiciary.

 

But the judiciary cannot introduce legislation, or even challenge something unless it is brought before them.

[Guard Dog]

 

 

The primary purpose behind the judicial branch is to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

Sorry but you are way off here. If the law favors the majority over a minority the judiciary (acting properly) will follow the law. And vice versa.

I probably should not have said primary, but if that law violates the constitutional rights of a minority, it is the judiciary's responsibility to challenge the law. Now I am now lawyer, so I totally could be talking out my butt, but that has always been my impression. Isnt that part of the whole rock paper scissors government we have? 3 branches with checks and balances?

 

 

Sure if the Constitutional Rights of any ​party are violated by another. Of if any party is harmed by the extra legal activity of another then the judiciary has a responsibility to uphold the law. That is the whole idea of "equal protection". Of course there have been many times they have not. Just ask Dred Scott, Carrie Buck, or Susan Kelo. But if the law favors the "evil corporation" over the "benighted and oppressed minority" then the judiciary has a duty to act on the behalf of the "evil corporation" if theirs is the legally sound position.  

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Guys if I'm half-German am I a half Nazi? How do I know which half of my body hates jewish people?

 

If you can't get an erection while looking at hot jewish lasses people of preferred gender, it's obviously your lower half and vice versa.

[Meshugger]

 

Guys if I'm half-German am I a half Nazi? How do I know which half of my body hates jewish people?

 

If you can't get an erection while looking at hot jewish lasses people of preferred gender, it's obviously your lower half and vice versa.

 

 

[Raithe]

So out of curiosity, how valid is this argument?

 

[Gfted1]

I don't really understand what is the beef. In my day, that was called going to a private school. Hell, even I went to a private Christian school for years ~6-7 (cant exactly remember).

[BruceVC]

I don't really understand what is the beef. In my day, that was called going to a private school. Hell, even I went to a private Christian school for years ~6-7 (cant exactly remember).

I always admire someone prepared to admit he did not receive a good education    , I went to one of the best private schools in SA. For my dad this mattered

 

But I think you are very perceptive? I have never thought you weren't educated