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If the public parks are nasty and dangerous then it makes sense to demand your tax money back so you can go to a nice private park, no?

 

Edit: Hilarious: https://twitter.com/conncarroll/status/838180293936807937

Is this true ? How many are we talking about and was the slowdown due to people being deported?
I think it's just theoretical at this point.

 

 

If the public parks are nasty and dangerous then it makes sense to demand your tax money back so you can go to a nice private park.

Do you actually buy that?
I wouldn't say it if I didn't. I was just pointing out that the situation isn't as unreasonable as it was portrayed in the ad. If you mean about the schools, then yes, many schools are nasty and dangerous. I understand it's more complex than just "it's all the schools' fault".

 

Edit: lol, we need some spikes on that wall: http://www.breitbart.com/border/2017/03/04/mexican-politician-climbed-border-fence-call-trumps-wall/

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You think spikes will stop anyone? Look at all these security measures. These are great security measures. They're fantastic. From that yuuge tower, soldiers, tremendous people, will shoot anyone who tries to get past the wall. It's true. I love it.

 

Now, some might say that people got across this wall anyway. That they build tunnels. Used Ballons. That there are even instances where the people of the other side helped them flee. Some say no matter how good the wall, people will always get past it. But anyone who says that is lying. He is fake news!

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I'd be the first to claim to being a defence budget hawk, but a boost to the defence budget is more than a little hard to justify in the minds of some given that Trump has shown little interest (some might even say contempt) in maintaining an international order based upon good order at sea.

 

355 ship navy? Great for making the Russians think twice about invading the Baltics and running roughshod over the Norwegians, making sure Iran's threats of closing the Strait of Hormuz are empty ones, and keeping things civil in the South China Sea, Strait of Malacca and the Gulf of Aden. Not so much against some loser 20-somethings from Belgium, Austria et al. riding around in Toyotas with DShks mounted on them in the desert of what is ostensibly a land-locked country (or the loser 20-somethings who shoot up night clubs and churches or blow up federal buildings in Trump's own country).

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Now, some might say that people got across this wall anyway. That they build tunnels. Used Ballons. That there are even instances where the people of the other side helped them flee.

 

A Russian pal once told me a joke that was being passed around when Sigmund Jähn became the first German to reach space that eventually people from the GDR would try to escape to the West by hijacking a Soyuz space mission.

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"Turned wrong way round, the relentless unforeseen was what we schoolchildren studied as 'History,' harmless history, where everything unexpected in its own time is chronicled on the page as inevitable. The terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides, turning a disaster into an epic.”

 

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I think the only reason I read this thread anymore is to follow this snappy repartee between Hurlshot and WoD. :lol: 

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I think the only reason I read this thread anymore is to follow this snappy repartee between Hurlshot and WoD. :lol:

You always seem to state the undeniable truth  :biggrin:

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

 

 

You'll have to be quite violent to make them comply with that.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

 

I'd buy a ticket to watch.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

I'd buy a ticket to watch.

My money be on nazis and fundamentalists teaming up against the leftist then between them 2.....I dunno. If it's southern fundamentalists, I'd dare say they come out for the win if anyone was left.

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I don´t know, but wouldn't a significant percentage of that be a bunch of people punching themselves in the face?

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p
Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

Sounds like someone converted to Islam...

Sounds like soemone needs to look up gang activity in some places.

 

Funny enough back home, decapitation was the big thing. Not even sure why in most cases (you'll get hilariously racist answers there) but people have to act like animals I guess.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p
Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

Sounds like someone converted to Islam...

Sounds like soemone needs to look up gang activity in some places.

 

Funny enough back home, decapitation was the big thing. Not even sure why in most cases (you'll get hilariously racist answers there) but people have to act like animals I guess.

 

 

Are you Mayan or something?

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

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Nope Trinidad. Machete killings have been a thing even before I emigrated. Situation is worse now, saw a report that ISIS recruits a fair amount there these days.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/isis-trinidad/509930/

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p
Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

Nonono... much more costly. We just let them kill each other, for free.

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I think the key here is with whom the Nazis will side first... the left extremists or the fundamentalists. And let's not forget Hitler and Stalin had a pact at first... ;)

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Leftist guerillas will firebomb a nazi building and liberals will become nazis to prove they are the "tolerant left".

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJeugIJFXas

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I wouldn't say it if I didn't. I was just pointing out that the situation isn't as unreasonable as it was portrayed in the ad. If you mean about the schools, then yes, many schools are nasty and dangerous. I understand it's more complex than just "it's all the schools' fault".

 

So the military is 'unready' and you want to throw another 54 billion dollars at it, but our schools are 'nasty and dangerous' and so you want to take money away from them. Okey dokey.

 

Can I get a voucher for sending money to a private security company? These guys get the job done:

 

There are private schools, but no private military yet. Many people though hire private security when the police aren't doing enough. Private military might not be a bad idea, there was a story in some African country about 100 mercenaries doing more good than 15000 UN "peace keepers".

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I wouldn't say it if I didn't. I was just pointing out that the situation isn't as unreasonable as it was portrayed in the ad. If you mean about the schools, then yes, many schools are nasty and dangerous. I understand it's more complex than just "it's all the schools' fault".

 

So the military is 'unready' and you want to throw another 54 billion dollars at it, but our schools are 'nasty and dangerous' and so you want to take money away from them. Okey dokey.

 

Can I get a voucher for sending money to a private security company? These guys get the job done:

 

There are private schools, but no private military yet. Many people though hire private security when the police aren't doing enough. Private military might not be a bad idea, there was a story in some African country about 100 mercenaries doing more good than 15000 UN "peace keepers".

 

You lost me on this one WoD. You should do a little reading about Odoacer and his foederati infantry of the 6th Century before wishing for something like that. The security and defense of the nation and the integrity of the borders  is the first duty of any government. Contractors and mercenaries have their uses but they should never be relied on as the first line of defense.

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