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Well after they got away with that IGN reporter "cameo" in ME3 I guess this is just the natural next step in ensuring their actors are as unqualified as possible.

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Well, lot of people do not posses the skill to judge themselves objectively ;-)

 

And I have my doubts, that Bio Boards were an excepion to this rule.

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Well after they got away with that IGN reporter "cameo" in ME3 I guess this is just the natural next step in ensuring their actors are as unqualified as possible.

 

Such a wasted opportunity to tackle the issue of ethics in video game journalism... alas. But at least we banged, ok. ( :brows: )

 

Regardless, I've seen fan voice acting that was at least decent (1), so it's certainly not an impossibility. If they aren't restricted to the extremely reduced pool of hot video game "journalist" broads to pick from, I don't see why not.

 

I'm not expecting Tony Jay, but it's just a marketing gimmick and the clips will be used for some random nobody on the equivalent of the Citadel.

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Not much news on the FF7 remake - last I heard it was being split into 3 parts, and the battle system was being borked in real time...

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FFVII is a game that really doesn't need a remake. I know a lot of people hold it dear to their hearts but the game was principally famous for looking better than anything else at the time... which is no longer the case.

 

Having played it years later, IMO the story and the characters really don't hold up all that well. 

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Having played it years later, IMO the story and the characters really don't hold up all that well.

I kinda feel like it also depends on how old you are when playing it. The game's very clearly targeted towards younger teenage demographic and I think it works for it, but the moment you start caring about such nonsense as fleshed-out worldbuilding, well... It falls apart. I think Final Fantasy IX aged a lot better, throwing a lot of the angst away and trying to be much more of a fairy tale, which happens to work significantly better for the fantastical worlds Square Enix creates.
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Well after they got away with that IGN reporter "cameo" in ME3 I guess this is just the natural next step in ensuring their actors are as unqualified as possible.

Didn't Obsidian use a lady journalist to voice the light switches in Old World Blues?

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Yep same thing. But also Arthas was Kerrigan back in WarCraft 3, and so was Sylvanas.

Hm maybe. Illidan looks like he'll be Kerrigan a la SC2. Still don't see why people like him as a character.

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Having played it years later, IMO the story and the characters really don't hold up all that well.

I kinda feel like it also depends on how old you are when playing it. The game's very clearly targeted towards younger teenage demographic and I think it works for it, but the moment you start caring about such nonsense as fleshed-out worldbuilding, well... It falls apart. I think Final Fantasy IX aged a lot better, throwing a lot of the angst away and trying to be much more of a fairy tale, which happens to work significantly better for the fantastical worlds Square Enix creates.

 

 

I played only a little of FFIX but it definitely leaves a better first impression than either VIII or VII. VI and X also start off rather well. So does XII but it takes so long to get anywhere and then, paradoxically, stops and goes nowhere.

 

I only ever finished IV, VII, X, X-2 and XII though. And I might play IX when I'm able to swallow JRPG combat again.

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the game was principally famous for looking better than anything else at the time

The game was principally famous for being a generation's introduction to fantasy. This is largely the same reason why X is popular, too.

 

It has likable characters and a decent fantasy story with interesting turns.

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the game was principally famous for looking better than anything else at the time

The game was principally famous for being a generation's introduction to fantasy. This is largely the same reason why X is popular, too.

 

It has likable characters and a decent fantasy story with interesting turns.

 

 

*shrug* I played both VII and X years after release and found that X held up better in almost every way. There was nothing about VII that I felt was really remarkable, whereas Chrono Trigger and FFVI strike me as more relevant titles today.

 

Then again I have a visceral hatred for early 3D graphics, chibis, angsty teenagers and grainy pre-rendered backgrounds, so it was an uphill thing from the start.

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Hm. I think my first Final Fantasy was... VIII.

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Mine was US III aka Japan VI.  Then picked up II aka IV which I didn't like as much.

 

Didn't like VII, VIII, IX or X as much as VI (III) but did like them (even VIII which was much maligned at the time).  I think I've played all of the first ten in some fashion, plus X2.

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angsty teenagers

But you thought X held up? Tidus is the angstiest teen, spending all game complaining about how his dad didn't love him.

 

That's why I'm no fan of X.

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Not only was it VIII. It was the pc version.

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angsty teenagers

But you thought X held up? Tidus is the angstiest teen, spending all game complaining about how his dad didn't love him.

 

That's why I'm no fan of X.

 

 

I never got that vibe from him. He has "issues" but his general personality is infinitely more upbeat than the likes of Cloud, Squall, the protagonist of Persona 3 all of which are dark and brooding (insofar as they have any personality at all) for the sake of being dark and brooding - both in behavior and visual design. Tidus is a kid. He thinks like a kid, has kid "problems" and behaves like a kid but never at any point commits the sin of pretending to be something else. 

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I am unashamed to say I really liked FF VIII.  It's no FF VI, but once that game set the bar for the series nothing has ever come close to matching it, so measuring jRPG games against FF VI is kind of unfair.

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Hm. I think my first Final Fantasy was... VIII.

same here, really liked how it jumped between characters all the time. but I still think IX is a better game overall (better than most Final Fantasies that I've played, which is not much: from 6 to 10 (disqualifying 10-2, because it was just too weird for me to get into))

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I'm just sick of corruption-this, corruption-that storylines that have been the stock and trade of the series since day one. There's enough corruption in the history of WoW to make any third-world dictator blush. It's not interesting, it's not compelling, it's just lazy.

 

I do admit that the basis of the entire expansion has put me off since the outset though, when the driver behind the whole thing is resurrecting your most recognisable dead villains yet again, you can't help but feel it both cynical and desperate at the same time.

 

Oh, so that's why Illidan is showing up everywhere again. Guess they weren't inspired enough to get back to the Legion with new villains on top of the obvious not-dead old one: Kil'jaeden. Would've been nice to finally make him kick the bucket but I guess it'd probably be rather anticlimactic given how they gutted raiding with the raid finder introduction, assuming they didn't get rid of that again (highly doubt it).

 

A good Burning Legion focused expansion could've maybe gotten me to reinstall WoW after all these years, but bringing Illidan back is just lazy. At least Kael'thas doesn't appear to be back again after having been "back again" already...

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Everyone using Roman numerals over the last page or so is really discombobulating. :ninja: For the record, I've only ever played FF7, and it was fine, I finished it, but wasn't sufficiently impressed to go on and play other games in the series.

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Only played FF8 on pc and only 4 of 5 CDs. Couldn't bear it anymore after that, because it felt like every CD / chapter was basically the same story just with different characters.

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I hate FF8, hated it when it was released and i always will. PC port was utter garbage as well.

FF7 i like but i couldn't replay it today. Same with FF6 or FF9, both of which i like even more. The only other FF game and the last i'd played was FF13, i didn't even bother to finish it.

So as far as FF games go, only some nice memories remain but the interest in playing any is gone.

1.13 killed off Ja2.

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Yeah, my experience with FF7 was with the shoddy PC port as well which would have coloured my experience. The 3D acceleration was only possible under 3dfx Glide so I had to sit through the very slow software rendering, which was particularly problematic when summon spells were involved. A later patch supported 3D acceleration for the nVidia Riva 128 but it was far from polished.

 

The game also famously came with a sizable portion of the controls mapped to the numpad by default. If you didn't have a numpad, then like many laptop owners found, you had to wait for a later patch to let you remap the keys before launching the game because while it was possible to rebind keys ....you needed access to the numpad in the first place to do that.

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"I am unashamed to say I really liked FF VIII.  It's no FF VI, but once that game set the bar for the series nothing has ever come close to matching it, so measuring jRPG games against FF VI is kind of unfair."

 

V > X > XIII-III > IV > X-2 > XIII-I >VIII > IX > XIII-II > VII > XII > VI

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