Leferd Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Good ep! Definitely some big revelation moments --even for book readers. That origin reveal for the Others, tho. Hmmm, maybe it wasn't actually Bran the Builder who constructed The Wall. The Children making amends for unleashing the blight? Hodor. Edited May 23, 2016 by Leferd 1 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 That was a good episode... except the silly Hodor thing. I thought the detah of the wolf was rather meaningless. Hodor and Treegirl sacrificing themsleves would be enough of 'named' characters dying. Wolf didn't need to die here. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Them Stark kids really did save those wolf pups. /s Edited May 23, 2016 by kirottu 2 This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Great episode. Apparently D&D got Hodor's story from GRRM all the way back in the beginning. So that is one thing from the books that was spoiled by the show for sure. It hit me like a gut punch. The one recurring theme of the story is how the characters are undone by their flaws. But in this case Bran's flaws were suffered by others. It will be interesting to see what effect that has on his development. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Also, I thoguht this was fantasy. Not sci-fi. LMAO DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 What else has Bran affected through violation of the Temporal Prime Directive? "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The White Wankers can teleport their entire army instantly? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Maybe they were chilling nearby. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 In the show, I don't remember if Robb ever drafted a letter that may have legitimized Jon Snow, like it may have been alluded to in the books. Anyone know? Also, could we possibly see Coldhands or Benjen Stark coming to the aid of Bran and Meera? "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Sounds like they cut a lot of good stuff from the books le sad Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 In the show, I don't remember if Robb ever drafted a letter that may have legitimized Jon Snow, like it may have been alluded to in the books. Anyone know? No, he didn't, at least not on screen. I'm not really surprised by the Children of the Forest being responsible for the Others seeing how ADWD dropped a few vague hints in that direction already. Enough to give rise to theories that they're still working with them (I guess the episode jossed that idea though). Anyway, the Iron Islands were sort of terrible. That kingsmoot was ridiculous, as is Euron. Meh. 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 In the show, I don't remember if Robb ever drafted a letter that may have legitimized Jon Snow, like it may have been alluded to in the books. Anyone know? Don't think the show has mentioned that at all. In the books the letter was definitely more than alluded to, as Catelyn objected to it in POV and a Glover and a Mormont were sent off to find Reed senior and then get it to The Wall. If they did want to legitimise Jon it would be easy enough to do so- have Robb lodge the letter with someone like the Blackfish. Book version smacks of red herring in any case though, since he may be legitimate already given polygamy and Targaryens go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Why are people hating on the time thingy? I thought it was ok and didn't felt like it doesn't fit the setting. In any case it was a tense moment, imo. And this isn't even the season half-final. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Yeah I like that last episode as well (excludig magic holy hand granades) Edited May 24, 2016 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Sounds like they cut a lot of good stuff from the books le sad The books are telling a much bigger story. There is a lot more detail, more characters, more subplots, etc. In the books the Dorne & Iron Island plotlines are important and MUCH more interesting. In the show Blackfyre Targayens were never mentioned, in the books they are becoming an important thing (or at least some strong hints are beting dropped.) In the books Sansa is in the Vale, Brienne is in the Riverlands, Varys is in King's Landing, Pycelle is dead, Kevan Lannister is dead, Barristan Selmy is alive. Melisandre is not at the wall so whatever happens with Jon will be different. His story is different too. It's a lot less of a surprise when his Brothers try to murder him. Brans storyline looks like it's going to be similar, only Jojen is still kicking. Stannis may or may not be alive. It's a good bet Ramsay did not write the "pink" letter to Jon because he referenced things Ramsay could not know. Ramsay is married to Jeyne Poole (who wasn't in the show) who is pretending to be Arya Stark. The Manderlys, Horwoods & half the Umbers are plotting against the Boltons and are looking for Rickon on Skagos. Hizdar zo Loraq is still alive and plotting as the King of Mereen. Dany's meeting with Drogon in Daznaks pit went down totally different (and less epic IMO). Her meeting with the Dothraki looks like it will go different because she knows the Khal who found her (one of Drogos men) and she had Drogon with her. Tyrion has had a much harder road and he hasn't met Dany yet. Looks like it's going to happen though. Arya never killed Maryn Trant but she did kill her assigned target and became "no one". There are other differences. Rob's wife was different. Cersi made a much bigger mess of things, Petyr is likely going to have Robun Arryn killed, etc. If the show followed the books exactly is would be a lot bigger. Probably too much so. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Probably too much so. Definitely too much so. Far too many films and shows have been ruined by staying too far or too close to the source material. Especially visually speaking, there are characters that work great in books, like The Stone Lady or Coldhands - but would seem out of place or way too extreme in a visual medium. Imagine Darios looking like this on the show Nah, I'm glad they are rewriting it to fit a TV medium.. Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I don't think I'd want it to be an exact retelling of the books but not having read the books I can't say for certain. It's just a lot of the things that get mentioned here like Coldhands and the Stone Lady sound pretty interesting. Who knows though because the Sand Snakes sounded good when I heard about them here but I thought they were pretty terrible in the show Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I see the show as an alternate reality mirror universe of the books. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I don't think I'd want it to be an exact retelling of the books but not having read the books I can't say for certain. It's just a lot of the things that get mentioned here like Coldhands and the Stone Lady sound pretty interesting. Who knows though because the Sand Snakes sounded good when I heard about them here but I thought they were pretty terrible in the show Lady Stoneheart.... ugh... that plotline is going nowhere fast. She ends up leading the Brotherhood Without Banners. I think she was a mistake by Martin. I'm suprised you've never read these books. You are a fan of the genre. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I dunno why but they never interested me Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Well the run 400-600 pages each in paperback. Five books. If you started now and read one page per day you might... might finish before book 6 comes out. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganrich Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I don't think I'd want it to be an exact retelling of the books but not having read the books I can't say for certain. It's just a lot of the things that get mentioned here like Coldhands and the Stone Lady sound pretty interesting. Who knows though because the Sand Snakes sounded good when I heard about them here but I thought they were pretty terrible in the show Lady Stoneheart.... ugh... that plotline is going nowhere fast. She ends up leading the Brotherhood Without Banners. I think she was a mistake by Martin. I'm suprised you've never read these books. You are a fan of the genre. I agree, unless in the books she gives her life to resurrect Jon just like happened to her. It would let her save a child (the one she regrets mistreating), keep a child of Ned's alive, and it ends her existence. It would be a better way to bring Jon back than that of the easy way they did it in the show. Either way her and Dondarion are proof resurrection happens to keep Jon's from being out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 hah - Ho dør.. That's means (depending on pronounciation) 'prostitute door' or "prostitute dies"... Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 hah - Ho dør.. That's means (depending on pronounciation) 'prostitute door' or "prostitute dies"... Hodor was a prostitute. #confirmed 2 "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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