Hurlshort Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) It's pretty weird to think of our second largest trade partner as an enemy. Of course it is also weird to talk about building a massive militarized wall between our 3rd largest trade partner. Actually when you look at our trade with Mexico, what stands out is how much we export TO them. China is practically a one way relationship, whereas Mexico is buying nearly as much as they are selling. So yeah, let's build a wall with the country that takes in over 200 billion US products a year. Yay for diplomacy. Well it's not like the wall would mean no more trade between us and Mexico. It doesn't seem odd to spend billions of dollars building a fence between us and someone we do a tremendous amount of business with? How much money do we think we will save by building this 2,000 mile long barrier? Of course, Trump also wants Mexico to foot the bill, which sounds insane. I just don't see how anyone can justify this in economic terms. http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html I know it's not breitbart, so WoD won't trust it. Edited January 19, 2016 by Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 It's pretty weird to think of our second largest trade partner as an enemy. Of course it is also weird to talk about building a massive militarized wall between our 3rd largest trade partner. Actually when you look at our trade with Mexico, what stands out is how much we export TO them. China is practically a one way relationship, whereas Mexico is buying nearly as much as they are selling. So yeah, let's build a wall with the country that takes in over 200 billion US products a year. Yay for diplomacy. Well it's not like the wall would mean no more trade between us and Mexico. It doesn't seem odd to spend billions of dollars building a fence between us and someone we do a tremendous amount of business with? How much money do we think we will save by building this 2,000 mile long barrier? Of course, Trump also wants Mexico to foot the bill, which sounds insane. I just don't see how anyone can justify this in economic terms. http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html I know it's not breitbart, so WoD won't trust it. Shush now, here you're sitting in the front row of the greatest show on earth, the US, and worrying about small things when there's greatness at the horizon. Athens had its Acropolis, Rome had its Colosseum and China had its Great Wall; now it is your turn. Let the God Emperor build his Wall and you will be part of history in the making. 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I dont really know a lot about or understand the brewhaha over the "wall". But per wiki, we've already constructed a significant Mexico–United States barrier of various different construction walls. Why is everyone paniced over "Trump's wall"? Whats he doing different? Does it incorporate drones some how? 2 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Does it incorporate drones some how? Hahaha "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 "MPs to debate call to ban Donald Trump from UK" Making them as bad as Trump. Full of hate and anti freedom. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 "MPs to debate call to ban Donald Trump from UK" Making them as bad as Trump. Full of hate and anti freedom. Supposedly in the UK if a petition hits a certain number of people parliament has to debate the topic. This is one of those. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I dont really know a lot about or understand the brewhaha over the "wall". But per wiki, we've already constructed a significant Mexico–United States barrier of various different construction walls. Why is everyone paniced over "Trump's wall"? Whats he doing different? Does it incorporate drones some how? I don't think it's "Panicked" or anything. Instead they view it as an example of the absurdity we should expect from "President Trump". The underlying factors of things like illegal immigration etc are known and incredibly complex, as is the discussion of allowing immigration and at what rates. Trumps only response to the entire question is "Stick a wall in front of them and that'll do 'er!" like some jumped up trucker on moonshine. And he somehow expects that they'll magically pay for it too. That's the reason it constantly comes up, it shows how Trump is the bull in the china shop without any clue. 1 Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Supposedly in the UK if a petition hits a certain number of people parliament has to debate the topic. This is one of those.And no one thought to make them debate why Mr. Cameron porked a piggy? What a **** country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wrath of Dagon Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) It's pretty weird to think of our second largest trade partner as an enemy. Of course it is also weird to talk about building a massive militarized wall between our 3rd largest trade partner. Actually when you look at our trade with Mexico, what stands out is how much we export TO them. China is practically a one way relationship, whereas Mexico is buying nearly as much as they are selling. So yeah, let's build a wall with the country that takes in over 200 billion US products a year. Yay for diplomacy. Well it's not like the wall would mean no more trade between us and Mexico. It doesn't seem odd to spend billions of dollars building a fence between us and someone we do a tremendous amount of business with? How much money do we think we will save by building this 2,000 mile long barrier? Of course, Trump also wants Mexico to foot the bill, which sounds insane. I just don't see how anyone can justify this in economic terms. http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html I know it's not breitbart, so WoD won't trust it. One wonders how we ever build a road in this country, if one fence is supposed to be more than the entire national highway budget. Anyway, Trump's plan isn't to build a fence everywhere, it's basically the secure fence for accessible areas authorized in 2006 and never built. The things you keep saying about trade and fence are ridiculous. A fence would simply mean everyone has to use the legal crossing points they're supposed to use now. Edited January 20, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yes, I'm sure the immigrants that travel for days over remote deserts and mountains will encounter a fence and be like "oh no, a fence, better turn around now." Those fences need to be heavily patrolled in order to be any use at all. Why are you so quick to burn money on stupid projects like this? Take some fiscal responsibility, show me the proof that this will somehow help the American economy in any meaningful way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) That's the reason it constantly comes up, it shows how Trump is the bull in the china shop without any clue. It's not meant to be workable though, it's meant to be... aspirational, for want of a better term. How will it work? Very well. Practicalities be damned. Sure, for anyone who looks at it critically it looks monumentally stupid but it isn't aimed at people like that but at people who will go "yeah, that guy knows the real problems and how to get things done!". The sort of person who voted Bush because he'd be a nice guy to have a beer with (history of substance abuse and privileged son of multi millionaire family be damned) and because he wouldn't put up with any crap from anyone. That's a perfectly good group to aim for and no matter how silly it may look it's a strategy that has worked so far. Supposedly in the UK if a petition hits a certain number of people parliament has to debate the topic. This is one of those.And no one thought to make them debate why Mr. Cameron porked a piggy? I think it has to be couched as something that Parliament can debate/ have an effect on, such as Trump's supposed hate speech. So you'd have to find a way to make Dave's quasi-amorous deceased porcine interactions politically relevant rather than just amusing/ embarrassing. I don't think even something like "David Cameron's, uh, 'private member' is haram, and thus would be offensive to the Saudis or other muslims if he met them" would fit the, hm, bill. Unfortunately. Edited January 20, 2016 by Zoraptor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 4 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Supposedly in the UK if a petition hits a certain number of people parliament has to debate the topic. This is one of those.And no one thought to make them debate why Mr. Cameron porked a piggy? I think it has to be couched as something that Parliament can debate/ have an effect on, such as Trump's supposed hate speech. So you'd have to find a way to make Dave's quasi-amorous deceased porcine interactions politically relevant rather than just amusing/ embarrassing. I don't think even something like "David Cameron's, uh, 'private member' is haram, and thus would be offensive to the Saudis or other muslims if he met them" would fit the, hm, bill. Unfortunately. There has been over 5000 petitions so far, from which 19 has so far got enough votes to be debated, although The Petitions Committee has decided not to debate two of those 19 nineteen topics. I didn't find topic about Cameron's escapade with pork, but it maybe there but just using words that I didn't figure out. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=all Also during Trump debate there were two topics under discussion Block Donald J Trump from UK entry and Don't ban Trump from the United Kingdom (although this only had 44k votes so it was included in debate by parliament's own decision, probably to prevent need to debate same topic again in future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 http://mic.com/articles/132961/bernie-sanders-just-opened-up-his-most-massive-lead-yet-in-new-hampshire#.GFkXADirD itshappening.gif "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yes, I'm sure the immigrants that travel for days over remote deserts and mountains will encounter a fence and be like "oh no, a fence, better turn around now." Those fences need to be heavily patrolled in order to be any use at all. Why are you so quick to burn money on stupid projects like this? Take some fiscal responsibility, show me the proof that this will somehow help the American economy in any meaningful way. It doesn't need to be as heavily patrolled as empty space they patrol now. Either we follow laws or we don't, either we have sovereignty over our borders or we don't. Btw, DHS just reported that in 2015 half a million aliens overstayed their visas, and the government isn't doing a damn thing about it. American citizenship means nothing now, it's a free-for-all. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Looks like the Bern will stump the trump. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Looks like the Bern will stump the trump.Clinton will win, obnoxious liberals will praise this as a victory for progressivism, the right will be emboldened to support even stupider and more destructive economic policies, and the moderate to far left will continue to be completely irrelevant all the while being blamed for everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yes, I'm sure the immigrants that travel for days over remote deserts and mountains will encounter a fence and be like "oh no, a fence, better turn around now." Those fences need to be heavily patrolled in order to be any use at all. Why are you so quick to burn money on stupid projects like this? Take some fiscal responsibility, show me the proof that this will somehow help the American economy in any meaningful way. And it's not like we're just talking about cyclone fencing here. The closest I can conceptualize to this in terms of how it's been made and of what for similar purposes would be something like the Folsom or Hoover dam Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Looks like the Bern will stump the trump.Clinton will win, obnoxious liberals will praise this as a victory for progressivism, the right will be emboldened to support even stupider and more destructive economic policies, and the moderate to far left will continue to be completely irrelevant all the while being blamed for everything. Correct and a Clinton victory is a victory for a progressive future This is a good thing young grasshopper, lets not be negative "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 For more rimshots from outside of America.. 2 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gfted1 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 British MPs debate Trump ban, label him 'crazy,' a 'buffoon,' a 'wazzock'. Stay classy, UK. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Banning Trump from the UK would certainly show him that he is wrong on immigration. 2 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Banning Trump from the UK would certainly show him that he is wrong on immigration. By targeting singular person that has accused to done something that should prevent him to come in UK instead of putting in general ban for all Americans for example? EDIT: Is this you saying that you don't support any form of bans for any people when it comes to matters of immigration? Or are you just saying that it is choice between no bans or banning whole groups of people? Edited January 21, 2016 by Elerond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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