PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 You realize she's made an entire career being a speaker about internet flashburns right? Now that's a new one to me. I guess you can lump me with the rest of the non-Americans who caught the original incident and subsequent fallout, and just use it for pop-culture snerk humour ever since. I don't think that's just non-Americans, it's one of those things a person will always be known for unfortunately. She could cure cancer and still probably be known as the woman who gave the president the blowjob heard around the world and who later cured cancer. Talking heads would even debate if the first thing was somehow related to the latter It would certainly be a more pleasant treatment than chemo or radiation. 3 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 But by a very conservative commentator, oh no! What does that matter? The analyst could be a Nazi for all I care. I agree with his analysis, not his worldview nor his solutions. Would you disregard all theories behind why people are attracted to communism from socialist authors? Opinions do not factor in when making a factual analysis of the situation. ... aaaand for the opposite perspective here we have the neo-con Krauthammer trying to explain Trump: Predictably, he seems to have no idea about how big the immigration issue is, and the grievances of people who have failed or don't want to adapt to globalization. He always goes back to talking about how he thinks people are the most angry with that the US is supposedly seen as "weak", presumably because Obama has been reluctant to commit troops to pointless adventurism. As if the lack of more Iraq Wars is at the top of most people's agenda. Meanwhile, Trump has been served well by his opposition to the Iraq war. It's very, very clear that Trump voters want a strong defense, but without the pointless, inane attempts at nation-building seen in response to 9/11. Krauthammer is in for a reality check - his analysis of the situation in itself explains how large parts of the current right-wing establishment are out of touch with what the majority of people think. 1 "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 "Krauthammer" I bet his daddy capped quite a few of Krauts during WWII. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 "Krauthammer" I bet his daddy capped quite a few of Krauts during WWII. Actually... it's actually daddy was just an American GI who hammered a bunch of german chicks... resulting in Charles. Also https://www.ted.com/talks/monica_lewinsky_the_price_of_shame?language=en 1 Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 "Krauthammer" I bet his daddy capped quite a few of Krauts during WWII. I'm mesmerized by his creepy rubber face mask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 While admiring murderous totalitarian regimes, which makes him both an idiot and a hypocrite. Being against surveillance of citizens is idiotic now? I guess totalitarian measures are only bad when those dirty commies do it. Clearly the US government will never do anything wrong. I take it when anyone admires Thomas Jefferson and they don't want to enslave their biological children you're going to get triggered and call them hypocrites? Because clearly it's impossible to admire specific qualities or opinions without emulating something completely. The correct analogy here would be castigating Thomas Jefferson for holding slaves while expressing admiration for slave holding societies. But by a very conservative commentator, oh no! What does that matter? The analyst could be a Nazi for all I care. I agree with his analysis, not his worldview nor his solutions. Would you disregard all theories behind why people are attracted to communism from socialist authors? Opinions do not factor in when making a factual analysis of the situation. That was directed specifically at Hurlshot, who normally refuses to believe anything from right wing sources. Note that I was talking about my own link, so I certainly wasn't trying to discredit it. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 That was directed specifically at Hurlshot, who normally refuses to believe anything from right wing sources. Note that I was talking about my own link, so I certainly wasn't trying to discredit it. I am skeptical of both right and left wing sources. Because they are typically more interested in slinging mud at the other side than actually being an unbiased source of information. Which is basically what Rostere said. I mean, you don't ever have doubts about the party line you are buying into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Dear Sanders Campaign... I realize I'm registered as Democrat. Why is it that you're the one who's constantly calling me to come caucus for you, without any previous contact with your campaign, or previous evidence of actually being capable of being politically active. To be fair, I may go caucus for Hillary just because you're a **** who keeps calling me. -Oliver "I won the f***in lottery" Swanick 2 Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 That was directed specifically at Hurlshot, who normally refuses to believe anything from right wing sources. Note that I was talking about my own link, so I certainly wasn't trying to discredit it. Well, there's a difference between reporting of "facts" and analysis of facts. If a right-wing newspaper reports the "facts" that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian and Obama is secretly a Muslim and a Communist, I would be sceptical. If we are trying to establish what is factually true in such conflicts, it might be useless to consult Breitbart or Russia Today as an authority. But nobody is disputing Trump's popularity. I would say a majority of American news sources lean carefully to the left of the American political spectrum, but then again, I only ever read articles on either elections or foreign policy and only articles filtered through Google News or the Microsoft News app, so I have no idea of what is going on in printed papers. To be honest, left-wing media have other vices, like being more inclined to not report on the things they do not like, rather than inventing "facts". For a full picture of reality, I would read news from all sources, with scepticism towards the worldview espoused in the more partisan papers on either side. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Dear Sanders Campaign... I realize I'm registered as Democrat. Why is it that you're the one who's constantly calling me to come caucus for you, without any previous contact with your campaign, or previous evidence of actually being capable of being politically active. To be fair, I may go caucus for Hillary just because you're a **** who keeps calling me. -Oliver "I won the f***in lottery" Swanick "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agiel Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Tricky |)ick gives his two cents on the GOP field: http://mashable.com/2016/01/31/****-nixon-sizes-up-campaign-trump-cruz/?utm_cid=hp-hh-pri#_xewnuMBpmqC Edited January 31, 2016 by Agiel Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 https://theintercept.com/2016/01/31/the-bernie-bros-narrative-a-cheap-false-campaign-tactic-masquerading-as-journalism-and-social-activism/ Glenn Greenwald about false accusation tactics used by established journalists against Sanders, where something interesting popped up: Now, this sounds eerily familiar to how journalists handled another scandal in gaming, doesn't it? "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Now, this sounds eerily familiar to how journalists handled another scandal in gaming, doesn't it?Meshugger confirmed Clinton shill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XsWkwakVlA Just gonna point out that this is an actual ad that's running right now. I think somebody failed at market research. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XsWkwakVlA Just gonna point out that this is an actual ad that's running right now. I think somebody failed at market research. I was expecting "I'm Bernie Sanders and I approve this message" at the end of that for a bit. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XsWkwakVlA Just gonna point out that this is an actual ad that's running right now. I think somebody failed at market research. Ending Spending Action Fund is an independent organization that proudly supports candidates regardless of party affiliation who favor enhancing free enterprise and balancing our nation's budget. Learn more at EndingSpendingFund.com. So is this video made to support Sanders or to support other candidates (aka Clinton)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) That was directed specifically at Hurlshot, who normally refuses to believe anything from right wing sources. Note that I was talking about my own link, so I certainly wasn't trying to discredit it. I am skeptical of both right and left wing sources. Because they are typically more interested in slinging mud at the other side than actually being an unbiased source of information. Which is basically what Rostere said. I mean, you don't ever have doubts about the party line you are buying into? I don't buy into any party line, I am skeptical about all sources (as far as facts, as far as opinions I form my own). The reason I frequently post Breitbart links is that they cover stories main stream media (which I also read) likes to ignore, as Rostere pointed out. Even on Breitbart some people are more credible, and others are more in the knee jerk propaganda mode. Unfortunately I don't know any truly objective news sources, nor do I believe any exist. Edit: Just gonna point out that this is an actual ad that's running right now. I think somebody failed at market research. Ending Spending Action Fund is an independent organization that proudly supports candidates regardless of party affiliation who favor enhancing free enterprise and balancing our nation's budget. Learn more at EndingSpendingFund.com. So is this video made to support Sanders or to support other candidates (aka Clinton)? Seems to be a viral commercial for Sanders. Edited February 1, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Unfortunately I don't know any truly objective news sources, nor do I believe any exist. I have to agree with you on this one. Every news source it seems has an axe to grind even if it is only evident in the stories they choose to cover or not to cover. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XsWkwakVlA Just gonna point out that this is an actual ad that's running right now. I think somebody failed at market research. Ending Spending Action Fund is an independent organization that proudly supports candidates regardless of party affiliation who favor enhancing free enterprise and balancing our nation's budget. Learn more at EndingSpendingFund.com. So is this video made to support Sanders or to support other candidates (aka Clinton)? They're running against Sanders. I heard the radio version and it's constantly "REPUBLICANS WILL SAVE US! VOTE REPUBLICAN!" but doesn't mention any republican names. Only namechecking how terrible they think Sanders is, and how awesome republicans won't kill free enterprise. Side note: Their webpage is from 2 years ago now, and I think I heard that their boss is the guy who ran td waterhouse. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 More on the Trump and Sanders phenomena here. Okay guys, let's make predictions for the Iowa caucus. I think Trump will end up winning at around 25%, but with a smaller margin than many polls have predicted to Cruz. Cruz and Rubio will be nipping at his heels, both above 20%, with Rubio having the most momentum from previous polls, which will be the most noteworthy result. Carson at slightly below 10%, with Paul immediately below him. The rest pick up the scraps at the bottom. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html Guys I have mentioned this before, if you don't watch Fareed Zakaria on CNN on the GPS show then you should read his very informed opinion pieces. The guy must be one, if not the, most erudite, insightful political commentators in the world. He also has a wide range of highly respected people from around the who regularly comment on his show Anyway read his views on the GOP race Edited February 1, 2016 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html Guys I have mentioned this before, if you don't watch Fareed Zakaria on CNN on the GPS show then you should read his very informed opinion pieces. The guy must be one, if not the, most informed, insighful political commentators in the world. He also has a wide range of highly respected people from around the who regularly comment on his show Anyway read his views on the GOP race Yeah, that's a very good analysis. There's also this which basically mirrors the same sentiments from the Democratic side. Bernie Sanders is left-wing disillusionment incarnate, similar to Trump on the other side. Compared to European left-wing parties, the Democrats have offered unlimited corporate welfare in the form of generous and arbitrary bailouts, but can barely scrap together anything at all for the individual person. Bill Clinton throwing the Glass–Steagall law into the trash now looks more like an act of intentional corruption and less like incompetence. Even if Hillary should win this nomination, the Democrats can't entice their voters with false promises of putting people before big business forever if they don't make good on their promises. If Sanders does not win this nomination, I really wonder what will happen in 2020. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XsWkwakVlA Just gonna point out that this is an actual ad that's running right now. I think somebody failed at market research. Ending Spending Action Fund is an independent organization that proudly supports candidates regardless of party affiliation who favor enhancing free enterprise and balancing our nation's budget. Learn more at EndingSpendingFund.com. So is this video made to support Sanders or to support other candidates (aka Clinton)? IIRC these people do this sort of thing every election. It's intended to be 'pro Sanders' (/anti Clinton) but not because they actually support him, they see him as a weaker candidate for the main presidential election compared to Hillary. They support him so as to ultimately have an easier job getting a republican elected later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html Guys I have mentioned this before, if you don't watch Fareed Zakaria on CNN on the GPS show then you should read his very informed opinion pieces. The guy must be one, if not the, most informed, insighful political commentators in the world. He also has a wide range of highly respected people from around the who regularly comment on his show Anyway read his views on the GOP race Nah, what's really happening in the current age is that we are slowly and steadily entering the next stage of Imperium. The current candidates are only manifestations of the frustrations of the status quo: I am not saying that any of the current candidates are a Caesar in the making, but they are pawing the way for it to happen in the future. Besides, Cruz is another controlled opposition anyway. You can be anything but when you're married to an Investment Manager at Goldman Sachs who is also a member of Council of Foreign Relations. They guy is an investment, nothing more. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Primaries begin today. No matter who wins, we lose! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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