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I'm of a similar attitude, even those with journalism degrees are generally not undertaking the work they are supposed to, as i've said before the industry needs overhauling and an Ombudsman. At the moment it's a joke.

 

An ombudsman? Good luck getting a supra-national ombudsman going, as that is what would be needed- especially for games journalism. And most bloggers and the like can hide behind 'opinion' and being Schrodinger's Journalists- if they want embiggening they're journalists, if they want to hide from consequences they're bloggers or just stating an opinion with their free speech rights.

 

Unfortunately good journalism doesn't sell as well as bad journalism does, hence used toilet paper like the Daily Fail or The Scum being the highest selling brit papers. It's not surprising that most media is following their example, it's cheap and easy and financially viable to write sensationalist tripe, actual journalism is hard and may piss off powerful people to boot.

 

 

Yes it's a very distant dream, that I realise is extremely unlikely, however given the state of journalism I can't see much else fixing it. There are the rare examples of journalists whom want to do their jobs, and recognise the importance and value of the profession but as you say, there is also the tabloid pit which far too many are diving in. Why they do not see that they are devaluing their profession to the point of making it pointless, well that I cannot understand.

 

Edit: I think the amusing thing about the above young ladies video is that it can be encapsulated by the last few seconds, she states that she wants these guys to "shut up" and give someone else a chance, this is at the Oxford debating society. The whole idea of that institution is that no one is "shut up," that there is a free exchange of ideas and dialogue from everyone. She is simply arguing for censorship of white men, the ethnic majority of England whose privilege has been earned through the blood, sweat and tears of their mothers and fathers back into history.

 

It says a lot when a supposed intellectual wants to roll back an advancement in society and constrain a group so that others can take their place, when of course the reasonable would simply state that everyone should be lifted to the same position rather than be gagged.

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I don't like It's Always Sunny in Philedelphia, I do like Seinfeld, and the character of Dr. Cox alone in Scrubs encapsulates everything that was great about Seinfeld and improves on it. I don't see how you can like Seinfeld and not like Scrubs.

 

I hated Seinfeld when I was a kid though. I think you have to hate people before you can like Seinfeld, because it's escapist fantasy about being a horrible person. I certainly would never want to spend any length of time with the people who created it.

 

Makes me wonder how long a show like Seinfeld would survive today. Probably one episode and then it would be deemed problematic and cancelled.

 

 

Scrubs just perpetually fell flat for me. Something about its sense of humor just didn't work. Plus, it always seemed more adult content-oriented than Seinfeld usually was, and Seinfeld was just about the most I could take/stomach in that regard. Most of Seinfeld's humor didn't come from that area, whereas it felt like Scrubs and Always Sunny were/are constantly trying to force it in...Always Sunny especially, which, as I've said in the past, is like Seinfeld on steroids and/or amphetamines. I actually like Always Sunny more than Scrubs, because it actually has a lot of parts I do find funny...but I have such a disdain for the parts that I don't that I find it difficult to watch. :)

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More like "the wonderful judgement of young people who lack the context to understand most of the humor same sense of humor and/or taste in entertainment as you". Though I definitely do not like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia or Scrubs, I'm sure I dislike just about everything else Kaine or anyone else would use a "counter"-example. :p

 

I don't like It's Always Sunny in Philedelphia, I do like Seinfeld, and the character of Dr. Cox alone in Scrubs encapsulates everything that was great about Seinfeld and improves on it. I don't see how you can like Seinfeld and not like Scrubs.

 

I hated Seinfeld when I was a kid though. I think you have to hate people before you can like Seinfeld, because it's escapist fantasy about being a horrible person. I certainly would never want to spend any length of time with the people who created it.

 

Makes me wonder how long a show like Seinfeld would survive today. Probably one episode and then it would be deemed problematic and cancelled.

 

 

Am I allowed to not like Seinfeld but enjoy Scrubs? :biggrin:

 

Gee, have we wandered a bit off-topic here, but anyhow, one of the few sitcoms I really liked was 30 Rock. Alec Baldwin was just really outstanding.

 

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Actually there is something to shows having a time and a place where they appeal to you.  I tried to get into It's Always Sunny for a couple years, and then one day it just clicked with me.  It was probably when I started to daydream about owning a bar, and I found comfort in watching terribly incompetent people do it.   

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More like "the wonderful judgement of young people who lack the context to understand most of the humor same sense of humor and/or taste in entertainment as you". Though I definitely do not like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia or Scrubs, I'm sure I dislike just about everything else Kaine or anyone else would use a "counter"-example. :p

I don't like It's Always Sunny in Philedelphia, I do like Seinfeld, and the character of Dr. Cox alone in Scrubs encapsulates everything that was great about Seinfeld and improves on it. I don't see how you can like Seinfeld and not like Scrubs.

 

I hated Seinfeld when I was a kid though. I think you have to hate people before you can like Seinfeld, because it's escapist fantasy about being a horrible person. I certainly would never want to spend any length of time with the people who created it.

 

Makes me wonder how long a show like Seinfeld would survive today. Probably one episode and then it would be deemed problematic and cancelled.

They don't like Scrubs because they're bastard coated bastards with bastard filling

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Ah the wonderful judgement of young people who lack the context to understand most of the humor.   :thumbsup:

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At first I was like "How dare you say I'm 40!"  and then I was like "Oh wait, I am almost 40."  Aging is weird.

 

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Ah the wonderful judgement of young people who lack the context to understand most of the humor.   thumbsup.gif

It's not my fault I'm not 40. Blame my folks for not getting started earlier.

 

 

At first I was like "How dare you say I'm 40!"  and then I was like "Oh wait, I am almost 40."  Aging is weird.

 

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Well I suppose in about 16 years I'll be in the same situation, and some young punk on a forum will call me an old man or something.

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But only just.

 

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I have always hated the word "censorship", I prefer seeing it as just removing content that isn't suitable or is considered offensive

 

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So.. he's both a gamer and a SJW. LMAO

 

So who do you call the Nazi? Decisions, decisions ....people don't appreciate all the stress you under Volo  :biggrin:

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Archive of polygon's Metal Gear Solid 5 The Phantom Pain review.

 

The game's explanation for Quiet's mute, nearly-naked presence is inextricably tied to the game's convoluted story, and while her silence makes sense, her sexualized appearance doesn't feel earned. I couldn't shake the feeling that her visual design came first, with the game's ridiculous justification for her barely-there outfit coming second. Quiet is treated differently than other characters by the direction of the game's camera, too. During cutscenes, the camera sometimes pauses for a beat to focus — or straight up lingers — on Quiet's breasts. In one shot, we see it slide down the barrel of her sniper rifle, take measure of her cleavage before slowly rising up to her face. The camera framing puts her exposed body on display unnecessarily more often than not, whether we're looking down at Quiet's chest or gazing up at her bottom. Worse, a game event that hints at her being sexually assaulted felt more like a hamfisted plan to remove Quiet's pants just before she metes out gory revenge against her attackers. The Phantom Pain treats its few other female characters in a similar way, zeroing in on their jiggling breasts and panning across their asses in a silly, oversexualized way. It's distracting. It's annoying. It's tiresome.

Those sins only serve to detract from The Phantom Pain's finely tuned stealth-based gameplay.

"Sins" eh? These people are really starting to be indistinguishable from old school right wing religious nut jubs.

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i felt like I was reading an exotic story there. Nearly turned me on. The writer should switch jobs. L0L

 

And, I agree, writing like that comes across as a conservative anti sex psycho that 'liberals' used to bash for being so uptight. :p

 

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Once upon a time... there was a white male so it was ok.

 

Some gamers may be nasty but at least they are not hypocrites.

I don't understand your point and I think it looks interesting?

 

Are you saying Destructoid needs to be more sympathetic towards Thompson health? And if so why should they ?

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Archive of polygon's Metal Gear Solid 5 The Phantom Pain review.

 

The game's explanation for Quiet's mute, nearly-naked presence is inextricably tied to the game's convoluted story, and while her silence makes sense, her sexualized appearance doesn't feel earned. I couldn't shake the feeling that her visual design came first, with the game's ridiculous justification for her barely-there outfit coming second. Quiet is treated differently than other characters by the direction of the game's camera, too. During cutscenes, the camera sometimes pauses for a beat to focus — or straight up lingers — on Quiet's breasts. In one shot, we see it slide down the barrel of her sniper rifle, take measure of her cleavage before slowly rising up to her face. The camera framing puts her exposed body on display unnecessarily more often than not, whether we're looking down at Quiet's chest or gazing up at her bottom. Worse, a game event that hints at her being sexually assaulted felt more like a hamfisted plan to remove Quiet's pants just before she metes out gory revenge against her attackers. The Phantom Pain treats its few other female characters in a similar way, zeroing in on their jiggling breasts and panning across their asses in a silly, oversexualized way. It's distracting. It's annoying. It's tiresome.

Those sins only serve to detract from The Phantom Pain's finely tuned stealth-based gameplay.

"Sins" eh? These people are really starting to be indistinguishable from old school right wing religious nut jubs.

 

 

 

i felt like I was reading an exotic story there. Nearly turned me on. The writer should switch jobs. L0L

 

And, I agree, writing like that comes across as a conservative anti sex psycho that 'liberals' used to bash for being so uptight. :p

 

GET. OVER. YOURSELF.

 I suppose the point is the game is  about oversexualization of characters and scenes...its similar to an accusation of objectification of women characters in a game 

 

Not sure how valid it is because I haven't played the game but it could be true ?

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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When i read about these Polygon writers whining about women, the more confused i become. Why are they being annoyed? What's wrong sexy women?

 

Have they been conditioned to hate male impulses?

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
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