Meshugger Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) Not even a mention? Holy hell, where did you people get educated? This is high school level history! Feminism wasn't taught in any history class i've been to. It wasn't specifically that feminism was taught, the women's liberation movement was just covered as one of the many things characterizing hippies, civil rights movements and the 70's in general. (Oh yeah, Donna from That 70's Show also mentioned her pretty often to the point it became annoying). The closest thing was a mention of women getting the right to vote (without any names of the campaigners) and some burning of bras in the 60's and 70's, but that was linked to Trotskyist, Stalinist and other far left movements. Come to think of it, Jane Fonda was mentioned as controversial figure, but that was more for her anti-war protests. Most history was focused on the middle ages, the enlightment, industrial revolution, local history from 1100-1914 and the great wars. Everything after was extra courses for those interested. Edited April 26, 2015 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm seriously confused now. I have never mentioned Gloria Steinem and been met with a chorus of "who is that" and this is generally one of the smarter, more informed message boards I frequent. Take a census of the people asking and their date of joining, I think that after PoE the average IQ of these forums fell down. No offense to anyone. 2 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Would that be related to age? That can't be it. I'm... only... 27... Oh god, am I old now? Is this what we've come to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Would that be related to age? That can't be it. I'm... only... 27... Oh god, am I old now? Is this what we've come to? I am older than you, so it is not an age thing. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I probably should have added some smileys to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm seriously confused now. I have never mentioned Gloria Steinem and been met with a chorus of "who is that" and this is generally one of the smarter, more informed message boards I frequent. Take a census of the people asking and their date of joining, I think that after PoE the average IQ of these forums fell down. No offense to anyone. Yeah, not sure about that method. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 You guys only retain about 5% of what you are taught in history classes, so this isn't a huge surprise. Unless Feminism was an actual interest area, of course. Which given the way people talk on here, it would seem to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's perhaps ironic given the join date "theory" but me and Meshugger appear to be amongst the very earliest residents of this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) You guys only retain about 5% of what you are taught in history classes, so this isn't a huge surprise. Unless Feminism was an actual interest area, of course. Which given the way people talk on here, it would seem to be. No really. I am equally flabbergasted that feminism as an idea is taught in history class. The closest thing was a couple of paragraphs of the women's liberations movement in the beginning of the 20th century and some strikes for equal pay in the 60's, but those were intertwined to the general student rebellion at that time. Edited April 26, 2015 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 To be fair, other than Joan of Arc which I suppose could be considered feminist (I don't know how, but many people seem to think so) the women's liberation movement and related civil rights movements were literally the only feminism related thing that was actually discussed in my history books. It's not like I was taught about "patriarchy" or whatever. That's still something that only Tumblr and Twitter keep blathering on about. We spent a lot more time on black civil rights movements. I suppose the irony is that I can remember almost all history I was taught from prehistoric findings to egypt to vietnam (which was pretty much the last thing that was covered in my high school) but I can't remember a single bloody thing they tried to teach me about dutch history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) To be fair, other than Joan of Arc which I suppose could be considered feminist (I don't know how, but many people seem to think so) the women's liberation movement and related civil rights movements were literally the only feminism related thing that was actually discussed in my history books. It's not like I was taught about "patriarchy" or whatever. That's still something that only Tumblr and Twitter keep blathering on about. We spent a lot more time on black civil rights movements. I suppose the irony is that I can remember almost all history I was taught from prehistoric findings to egypt to vietnam (which was pretty much the last thing that was covered in my high school) but I can't remember a single bloody thing they tried to teach me about dutch history. Well to be fair, the only Dutch history that we were taught in scando-land was the colonizations in Asia and that they sold New Amsterdam for almost nothing Edited April 26, 2015 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I was taught a lot more but that's about all I remember. That and there's something with... pirate mercenaries? At some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadedWolf Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 To be fair, other than Joan of Arc which I suppose could be considered feminist (I don't know how, but many people seem to think so) the women's liberation movement and related civil rights movements were literally the only feminism related thing that was actually discussed in my history books. It's not like I was taught about "patriarchy" or whatever. That's still something that only Tumblr and Twitter keep blathering on about. We spent a lot more time on black civil rights movements. I suppose the irony is that I can remember almost all history I was taught from prehistoric findings to egypt to vietnam (which was pretty much the last thing that was covered in my high school) but I can't remember a single bloody thing they tried to teach me about dutch history. Well to be fair, the only Dutch history that we were taught in scando-land was the colonizations in Asia and that they sold New Amsterdam for almost nothing Come now, come now. We got Surinam for it. It was a steal! I mean, New York on one side, Surinam on the other... Which would you pick? The choice is obvious. Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I am equally flabbergasted that feminism as an idea is taught in history class. For some reason, I'm not surprised at all : ] 2 "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 To be fair, other than Joan of Arc which I suppose could be considered feminist (I don't know how, but many people seem to think so) the women's liberation movement and related civil rights movements were literally the only feminism related thing that was actually discussed in my history books. It's not like I was taught about "patriarchy" or whatever. That's still something that only Tumblr and Twitter keep blathering on about. We spent a lot more time on black civil rights movements. I suppose the irony is that I can remember almost all history I was taught from prehistoric findings to egypt to vietnam (which was pretty much the last thing that was covered in my high school) but I can't remember a single bloody thing they tried to teach me about dutch history. Well to be fair, the only Dutch history that we were taught in scando-land was the colonizations in Asia and that they sold New Amsterdam for almost nothing Come now, come now. We got Surinam for it. It was a steal! I mean, New York on one side, Surinam on the other... Which would you pick? The choice is obvious. Surinam's great potential on production of different spices is still not fully realized! Any day now! (i would've picked it as well if i lived back then ) I am equally flabbergasted that feminism as an idea is taught in history class. For some reason, I'm not surprised at all : ] Touché "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
licketysplit Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I totally had a crush on him, but now...not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I have two questions: One, who is Bruce Jenner? Two, why should I care about which gender he is identifying himself with, it's his own business surely? Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Bruce Jenner is a D list celeb on a program on e! or MTV or something with some over exposed Americo-Armenians. Then no, and yes. I was taught a lot more but that's about all I remember. That and there's something with... pirate mercenaries? At some point? What, no De Ruyter smoking the English fleet at Chatham? That's as good for a history troll as the Volournians burning Washington in 1814. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 To be fair, he's also an olympic champion. Says google. And I really only know that name because it is a brand of chocolate sprinkles. We put that on bread, because we're insane geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Bruce Jenner is a D list celeb on a program on e! or MTV or something with some over exposed Americo-Armenians. Then no, and yes. I was taught a lot more but that's about all I remember. That and there's something with... pirate mercenaries? At some point? What, no De Ruyter smoking the English fleet at Chatham? That's as good for a history troll as the Volournians burning Washington in 1814. Actually all true Englishmen swear revenge on the Dutch. It's hilarious. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 For sprinkles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) How does it compare to nutella? I'm curious to try it but not sure I can find it here I guess I should have googled it before posting as it looks like Amazon has it Edited April 27, 2015 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Nutella's better, but it does have a purer chocolate flavour and a nice crunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadedWolf Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I like the direction this thread is going! Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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