Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition

[Chilloutman]

More I read into that GG phenomene the more it looks to me like a mirror to society. Some people (and I am really happy that we still exists) are just fed up by all rules and rights every minority, interest group or even goverment (doesnt matter how right or reasonable is) force upton common people while those can only suffer and keep heads down. It is showing why internet needs to be anarchic place as its only free space which left. Its like everyone having party while freedom is leying on bed in next room dozed on sedatives

[Longknife]

Did Gamergate celebrate in a ritual dance, flinging bro-fists all around and drank to Ms. Day's tears?

 

 

Wtf no.

 

 

.....I celebrated in a ritual dance to that terriawful article Gawker posted where they called their readers and sponsors idiots and fascists.

[Meshugger]

Are you seriously suggesting that the mainstream media is lazy or even skewed in some way?

[Malcador]

I had to laugh at the part where she says she'd cross the street to avoid a "gamer".

[Enoch]

 

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

 

EDIT:

Article where journalist tries to find out what is the thing that gamergate movement wants. Writer seems to be bit frustrated about end results.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/10/gamergate-should-stop-lying-to-itself.html?n_play=5447d040e4b00a112b2a20ae

 

Those are some interesting articles which show that some journalists simply don't understand the problem. There's a very interesting response from one of the posters in the article you last linked, David Ward.

 

"These articles were proof that games media was hostile to those that consumed games media, not because we are the stereotype but BECAUSE we had thought a natural progression had already occurred where the stereotype was disproved, but our media hadn’t gotten the memo.

 

To think we’re simply mad because we heard “Gamers are Dead” hur dur derp, anger, is condescending – we understand they’re not trying to “take away our games.” We’re hurt because we’re alienated, we’ve had stereotypes thrust on us since the 80s, and it hasn’t stopped since but we’d hoped that our media (our advocates) were the last people to perpetuate those stereotypes."

 

I'm not a GamerGate supporter (I guess I'll have to say this a thousand times) but I still feel insulted when I hear the press' stereotypical definition of "Gamer". But, oh no, sorry guys we don't mean you, when we say gamer we only mean the sort of virgin, neckbeard, obese, cisgendered, white, male, crybaby that we immediately think of when we say gamer, and you're not like that right?

 

Yeah, that's not at all insulting.

 

Edit: The Felicia Day article, well, I can certainly understand how she would feel that way considering that there are people out there that do have these very negative views on anything female and that the press puts all its focus on them. It's a shame because it honestly isn't a reason to avoid people who look like gamers to her (can you really tell? Is there a secret handshake I missed?). And that's the thing really, because all the focus goes out to the toxic GamerGaters suddenly all gamers seem to be suspect.

 

 

That is an interesting post, but, as you note, there's still a step between where you are and where core GG'er supporters are.  And (not to presume too much about your motivations) I think that step is largely political-- it's all this rage at "SJWs."  As such I don't think that NYMag article is missing the point by much. 

[TrashMan]

Apparently, we are at war with women:

https://twitter.com/0uttaS1TE/status/525209103321559040/photo/1

 

and we are winning!

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/21/Incredibly-GamerGate-is-winning-but-you-won-t-read-that-anywhere-in-the-terrified-liberal-media

Edited October 23, 2014 by TrashMan

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

An interesting, different take on GamerGate:

http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/100701290523/gamergate-alternate-theory

That was actually fairly insightful. I do think a large portion of ganergate supporters want to see personal responsibility for actions rather than shifting the burden onto the group as a whole. I would personally file that line of thinking under ethics myself, but I can see the writer's point and have to wonder if we should be having conversations about accountability seperate from conversations of ethics.

[Blarghagh]

An interesting, different take on GamerGate:

http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/100701290523/gamergate-alternate-theory

 

I'm going to pull a Bruce here because this article deserves some signal boosting. It's a fantastic article as all of Kazerad's articles have been. It very clearly demonstrates some of the points I've been trying to make but failed to do so in a coherent manner about why it's ridiculous to smear people as groups over the actions of some of its members and why signal boosting the wrong people is to make their signal stronger. It shows perfectly that the desired outcome here should not be to "win" but to make things better by working together and acknowledging each other. All this alienation and polarisation is helping no one.

[Fighter]

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

 

I feel sorry for her having that kind of anxiety. It is still an incredibly irrational fear.

[Blarghagh]

 

 

Proof that TN is a ****roach infiltrator from the post-nuclear apocalypse future.

 

 

 

 

 

Slightly off-topic, but I didn't see this before and it gave me a great laugh. JadedWolf, you're the best.

[Elerond]

I am back with latest thing about gamergate in my small twitterverse

 

Article summary article about gamergate that uses sarcasm to convey it message. It is written to look like forced support piece for GamerGate, to give it message more strength. Its tone seems to be neutral in first glance, but really it is very anti-gamergate 

http://www.clickhole.com/article/summary-gamergate-movement-we-will-immediately-cha-1241?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=twitter

[Orogun01]

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

 

I feel sorry for her having that kind of anxiety. It is still an incredibly irrational fear.

 

Fear is an irrational thing, still feelings should not be a validation of a personal argument. One can appeal to sentiment but to use sentiment as a cause is just an excuse, the right thing should be done irregardless of emotion. Also; is not like she is a hard person to find, I mean thanks to 4chan I've literally know her address for years ever since they uncovered that she was with that septuagenarian producer.

[Blarghagh]

I am back with latest thing about gamergate in my small twitterverse

 

Article summary article about gamergate that uses sarcasm to convey it message. It is written to look like forced support piece for GamerGate, to give it message more strength. Its tone seems to be neutral in first glance, but really it is very anti-gamergate 

http://www.clickhole.com/article/summary-gamergate-movement-we-will-immediately-cha-1241?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=twitter

 

Yes, I read this and honestly I'm inclined to take them up on their offer.

[Nonek]

Is Felicia Day the young lady who voiced Veronica in New Vegas? If so i'd not cross the street to avoid her, i'd emigrate and renounce my citizenship, and upon the advent of viable super solar travel move to the nearest habitable Earth alternative.

[Keyrock]

Is Felicia Day the young lady who voiced Veronica in New Vegas? If so i'd not cross the street to avoid her, i'd emigrate and renounce my citizenship, and upon the advent of viable super solar travel move to the nearest habitable Earth alternative.

She's voiced several characters in various games, and yes, Veronica was one of them.  She's supposedly a "nerd culture queen", or so I've been told.  I never cared much either way, I don't particularly like her or dislike her, and this changes nothing as far as that goes.  It's too bad she's fearful, I'm not looking for anyone to live in fear, even people I openly dislike, much less people I don't dislike.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Keyrock

[Elerond]

It seem that Felicia's concerns getting doxxed weren't unfounded.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/23/felicia-days-public-details-online-gamergate

[Malcador]

I had heard the address was found via a Google search, heh.

[Blarghagh]

Yeah, as Orogun pointed out her personal information has been out there for quite a while. Doesn't excuse anything, though.

[Nonek]

 

Is Felicia Day the young lady who voiced Veronica in New Vegas? If so i'd not cross the street to avoid her, i'd emigrate and renounce my citizenship, and upon the advent of viable super solar travel move to the nearest habitable Earth alternative.

She's voiced several characters in various games, and yes, Veronica was one of them.  She's supposedly a "nerd culture queen", or so I've been told.  I never cared much either way, I don't particularly like her or dislike her, and this changes nothing as far as that goes.  It's too bad she's fearful, I'm not looking for anyone to live in fear, even people I openly dislike, much less people I don't dislike.

 

 

I don't care how or where she's living, just so long as there's an ocean or two between me and her.

 

Wonder if one can train to be an astronaut when of advancing years, are NASA planning on sending anybody to Mars soon? Are there still research stations in Antarctica?

[Malcador]

Yeah, as Orogun pointed out her personal information has been out there for quite a while. Doesn't excuse anything, though.

Hm, I suppose doxxing is just spreading publicly available information, so perhaps the same.

[Longknife]

Apparently, we are at war with women:

https://twitter.com/0uttaS1TE/status/525209103321559040/photo/1

 

 

Am I the only one who starts laughing at how she worded her tweet?

 

Something about it sounds hilarious.

 

 

EDIT: The tone. It reminds me of this video at the very start:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=704XtQ8vhWk

Edited October 23, 2014 by Longknife

[Keyrock]

This whole Felicia Day thing smells a bit fishy, a little too convenient.  That's probably my conspiracy theory brain connecting imaginary points together, though, so grain of salt, and all that.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Keyrock

[kirottu]

This whole Felicia Day thing smells a bit fishy, a little too convenient.  That's probably my conspiracy theory brain connecting imaginary points together, though, so grain of salt, and all that.

 

Doxxing Day harms GamerGate. That could be the motive. I think that's bit too simple to be conspiracy.

[Orogun01]

This whole Felicia Day thing smells a bit fishy, a little too convenient.  That's probably my conspiracy theory brain connecting imaginary points together, though, so grain of salt, and all that.

Actually if it is the "doxxing" that I witnessed, then it was an idiot who decided to prove that the information was publicly available and posted it.

[Namutree]

 

This whole Felicia Day thing smells a bit fishy, a little too convenient.  That's probably my conspiracy theory brain connecting imaginary points together, though, so grain of salt, and all that.

Actually if it is the "doxxing" that I witnessed, then it was an idiot who decided to prove that the information was publicly available and posted it.

 

Whoever decided to do that is a douche.