Portraits

[Sheikh]

Portraits need to have lots of character. A face is by far the best omnipresent visual clue as to the persons character.

 

In fact, good portraits can get your imagination flowing and give you ideas of a character you would make.

 

So far I believe in this game we have:

The problem with these is, they look too similar underneath skin color, teeth and size of nose. The shape and proportions of their face are almost identical. Other than that, they are not bad. (although they both look disgusting imo - wouldnt want to be one of these unless I was playing some willfully ignorant, loud, rude, chaotic heavy social drinker).

This one has the same problem as the ones above - shape and major proportions of the head and face are similar. This one also looks more generic.

This is good.

This looks way too similar to the first 2 in terms of proportions again.

Alright, but not impressive.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Sheikh

[Quadrone]

Okay.

[Cubiq]

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why did you turn Pallegina into a Smurf?

 

All those portraits look great to me (the companion ones are the best, but that is to be expected since they're unique characters).

Edited April 27, 2014 by Quetzalcoatl

[Nonek]

I'm unsure what exactly you're desirous of Sheikh, is it different skull shapes (Negroid or Mongoloid rather than Caucasoid) or more fantastical elements you are requesting?

[Karkarov]

So you are upset a bunch of humanoid races with human type proportions and bodies have similar head proportions.... you know... like real humans????

Edited April 28, 2014 by Karkarov

[illathid]

I'm almost positive the first 3 portraits are example of the rewards from the $3,000 pledge tier. So your complaint there is in effect "I don't like how similar these people who gave a lot of money look." Or to be more charitable your complaint should be directed at the backers who sent the base pictures, not Obsidian.

Edited April 28, 2014 by illathid

[PrimeJunta]

Haha wow.  You realize that you just called three big-ticket backers ugly and identical?

[Messier-31]

[Fatback]

You guys got it wrong being called a chaotic social drinker is a compliment. It means your fun to hang out with and prob get laid.

[IndiraLightfoot]

Perhaps I'm blind as Mr Magoo, but those three lovely backer-based portraits are in fact surprisingly varied already. I can't wait to have them adorn PE in a few months.  

[Kjaamor]

Worth it for Cubiq's post.

[Tamerlane]

Hey backers y'all a bunch of same-y uggos. Call me when you get a different jawline, okay?

 

*jetpacks away*

[Gorbag]

Portraits look good enough to me. The blue barbarian guy in the first backer portrait is my personal fave so far, although I'm not sure I would trust him (looks fishy).

[Jarmo]

Leaving the rest of the topic aside, I hope all the portraits follow the same face and a bit of shoulders look/crop.

Hate it when one portrait is face zoomed in and the next is full body or whatever.

 

I do understand the wish to add in a little side boob when there's one to show, but IMO, consistency trumps. 

[Gorbag]

What do you mean "side boob"?

[sesobebo]

This looks way too similar to the first 2 in terms of proportions again.

no worries, the big-heads mode is already implemented.

[PrimeJunta]

I <3 this thread.

[teknoman2]

let's see. on the first 2, the blue guy has a wider nose, wider head, more pronounced cheekbones, uneven sized eyes, wider and shorter neck and a smaller forehead... so how exactly are they completelly identical?

[Messier-31]

The blue barbarian guy in the first backer portrait is my personal fave so far, although I'm not sure I would trust him (looks fishy).

 

I c what u did there

[Sheikh]

I'm unsure what exactly you're desirous of Sheikh, is it different skull shapes (Negroid or Mongoloid rather than Caucasoid) or more fantastical elements you are requesting?

Yep. Also cro-magnon esque broad skulls as well, which exist in the nordic countries. And then more circular/oval skulls as well.

 

1. Foreheads. Some people in real life have very receding foreheads. Like something completely different from the portraits obsidian have done so far.

2. Various grades of prognathism.

3. Location of various aspects of the face in relation to each other. E.g nose, eyes, mouth etc.

 

These 4 features are major in forming the face. There are probably other major features, but I am not going to try think up more atm. Major features change the overall shape of the face far more than minor features such as the shape of the lips, nose or eyes and brows, etc.

[IndiraLightfoot]

I don't know why, but I'm getting a weird vibe from such cranioscopic details and requests, and it's a stale whiff from bygone times, rife with craniology and phrenology. Still, I support you in your crusade for achieving as wide a cranial diversity as possible in a game with subhuman races and beyond, which up until now I thought was a given. Please proceed in your endeavours!

[Nonek]

With that clarification I think you do have a point in terms of the fantastical species Sheikh, presumably they are not simply races of humanity like in other games because they have spent millions of years seperated from each other or never shared ancestry, thus extremely alien skull shapes might be warranted. Personally I think the Ooh Mama looks satisfactory in this regard, the Elf not so much.

[Mor]

So you are upset a bunch of humanoid races with human type proportions and bodies have similar head proportions.... you know... like real humans????

I am not certain he was aware that some of those are backer portraits, and overall just asking about in game portraits verity in terms of facial features.

 

Some people spend hours with facial gens in certain games (I usually click few times on random until its close enough to what I want). BG2 had more than few portrait packs so its not a big leap to what he ask about, me think.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Mor

[Orogun01]

 

I'm unsure what exactly you're desirous of Sheikh, is it different skull shapes (Negroid or Mongoloid rather than Caucasoid) or more fantastical elements you are requesting?

Yep. Also cro-magnon esque broad skulls as well, which exist in the nordic countries. And then more circular/oval skulls as well.

 

1. Foreheads. Some people in real life have very receding foreheads. Like something completely different from the portraits obsidian have done so far.

2. Various grades of prognathism.

3. Location of various aspects of the face in relation to each other. E.g nose, eyes, mouth etc.

 

These 4 features are major in forming the face. There are probably other major features, but I am not going to try think up more atm. Major features change the overall shape of the face far more than minor features such as the shape of the lips, nose or eyes and brows, etc.

 

All of which would be wasted development time in an isometric game with low poly models.