Shadowrun Returns

[sorophx]

Another advantage we melee-ers have is that moving and attacking are merged into one action: if an enemy is within 1 AP of movement, it only takes the 1 AP to run up and hit them. Being clever with Line of Sight and ranged enemies means I'm often still within striking distance of them, but if they want to hit me they have to waste 1 AP moving to get a clear shot.

oh yeah, I love that! you don't need to aim when your target is in arm's reach I guess 

[Tale]

I still can't get the stupid variable scene transition to work, I set it up the way people suggested, and I even checked the base campaign for ideas, but it doesn't work for me.  Bleh.

 

I did figure out how to make a custom character with almost no karma and make that the starting character of my story.  That was a good mystery to solve.  

 

I've been spending hours with this toolset, I've had no time for gaming

Dang, when you posted earlier I was hoping you had solved it. Is the problem that your story variables aren't being passed between scenes?

[Hurlshort]

I have a global story variable set up and it is showing up in the triggers.  I must not have it set up right, it is a string variable, I think I have to give it a value somewhere or I'm not setting up the trigger or region correctly.  Hopefully someone will upload an example sometime soon, the base campaign is a big mess to look at for help.

 

I have a decent workaround for my current campaign.  I am going to setup separate instances of the maps, so when you leave one map and then go back, you are actually entering a new version.  That allows me to change NPC's and interactions easier too.

[Malcador]

Hm, I am far behind with looking at the editor.

[ShadySands]

Finished the main campaign and enjoyed it but I wish it wasn't quite so linear. I would have liked more non story runs and legwork and all that jazz.

 

A few things I wonder about

-Heal 1 when there are no other Heal spells. Maybe Heal 2 would heal the last 2 or 3 attacks and so on and I did like that they set it up magical healing that way, it made things a bit more interesting

-All the locked doors that there didn't seem to be a way to get past

-Silence spells when there is no stealth

 

I didn't mind the lack of looting at all but the save system pissed me off more than a few times when I had to start all over again from the beginning of a map

[Tale]

Enemies had a heal spell that healed 25 damage every time. That would have been a nice Heal II.

[Labadal]

Ran through the last two missions today. I might do another adept run because it was fun playing as one and I totally wasted close to 20 karma points.

[Majek]

I quite enjod SRR.  It was a nice (re)introduction in Shadowrun universe. Now back to my 2nd character. and higher difficulty. i wonder if it really changes anything.

[Gfted1]

I too was wondering about the games reactivity. Let me hit you guys with an example and let me know if anything changed:

 

 

While investigating one of the murders, you encounter a guy down the street that wants a necklace off the corpse. When you go back to the body you are presented three options: 1) A Quickness check to act like you dropped your PDA and pick up the necklace. (I didn't have the requisite Quickness). 2) Just pick the necklace up. 3) Talk to the detective (and he winds up giving it to you). I chose option three and he handed me the necklace but what happens if you choose option 2? Anyone pick that option?

 

[alanschu]

Well just as a note, on my second playthrough I was much more direct to the person, and the guy just told me to pike off.  So there is certainly some level of reactivity, though it all seems pretty micro in scale (which is fine).

[Hurlshort]

One of the pluses on the user campaigns and using small maps and more scene transitions is that it automatically saves the game. Granted my whole mission will likely only take an hour to get through

[Tale]

I both hope and fear mine will be longer than that. I hope it's lengthy enough that it's satisfying, but am afraid it'll be so long I never finish it.

[Hurlshort]

I both hope and fear mine will be longer than that. I hope it's lengthy enough that it's satisfying, but am afraid it'll be so long I never finish it.

 

I think an hour is a decent goal for a user content pack.  I plan on making a series of them, kind of like episodes, if I can manage the time.  

[Tale]

I had originally planned to do mine as a three-parter, but I was confronted by three problems.

 

Difficulty in carrying over choices from Act I to Act II if they're separate packs.

Character building and foreshadowing in Act I that's completely unrelated to what's happening in Act I, but incredibly important to Act II.

The ending for Act I sucks as an ending.

 

So I'm combining all three acts into one pack, cutting out filler content, and adding a prologue. WELCOME TO FEATURE CREEP

[Hurlshort]

I'm keeping it pretty linear, I'll leave the choice and consequences to the big boys.  It is pretty easy to import a character at least, so when someone starts Act II they can keep the same character with all the karma choices they made in Act I.  

[anubite]

So you can't directly edit weapon/spells with the editor. You have to open up some text files which contain the loot tables and edit those.

[Hurlshort]

So you can't directly edit weapon/spells with the editor. You have to open up some text files which contain the loot tables and edit those.

 

Yeah, HBS has hinted that they will release an item editor in the future.

[Majek]

hmm editing gun range should be the first thing. It's kinda weird that all guns have RNG 19.

[Keyrock]

I wonder if it would be possible to make weapons do less damage at certain ranges.  For example, I would set it up so that shotguns lose very little, if any, accuracy over range, but the amount of damage they do drops off dramatically.

[Hurlshort]

So I got my first few areas done, characters and conversationscreated, some quest goals and rewards, and one combat scene.  I loaded it up locally to see how long it takes to play through at a regular pace:

 

10 minutes  

 

Geez, coming up with content is hard, I can see why so many developers throw loads of combat at people, it eats up the time.

[alanschu]

I did a Q&A session with some kids at the local science center that were taking part in a game camp over summer.  We got to see the games they created.

 

One had a moving target that would shoot every second or two that he called his "boss."  What I liked the most, however, was when I asked him about it he was all "Yeah but it was really hard to do!  I had set up all these event trigger things and then I had to figure out how to get it to keep doing it over and over and it had all sorts of problems.  I didn't think it would be so hard!"

 

 

Sometimes stuff that seems trivial and easy actually gobbles up a non-trivial amount of time to do.

[Labadal]

Playing with the editor because I have nothing better to do. I'll probably get bored in a few days.

[Jonathan1247]

Just wondering, is this game worth purchasing? I'm a huge fan of Shadowrun on the Super Nintendo, but I'm skeptical about purchasing it full price.

So, anyone who has played it, would you recommend it?

[Gfted1]

Its got a few warts, and I don't know what the retail price is, but yes its definitely worth purchasing imo.

[Humanoid]

It's $20, so yes.