Dragonnn Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Will we be able to transform into dragon pls ?
Dragonnn Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 In Neverwinter Nights 2 you had the special class 'Red Dragon Disciple' in its name and in Baldur's Gate 2 the red dragon would transform into human, so i think that it is not such a bad idea to be able to transform into a dragon.
Dragonnn Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 Uh I actualy gave you arguments, and you ?
BruceVC Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 In Neverwinter Nights 2 you had the special class 'Red Dragon Disciple' in its name and in Baldur's Gate 2 the red dragon would transform into human, so i think that it is not such a bad idea to be able to transform into a dragon. That is true actually, I don't think Obsidian has discussed whether you can be a dragon race. I doubt it as it does seem to add a level of unnecessary complexity but who can say at this early stage of the game? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Calmar Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 That thread reminds me of something... 19 Age of Wonders III !!!
Aleron Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Personally I'd rather see them as adversaries and believe they should be far from common (unless the setting already says otherwise in which case ignore this). They lose a lot of their intimidation if everyone you meet is either wearing them or is one (or related to them). The older fashioned games where you see a dragon and soil yourself I would love to see replicated again. 1
FlintlockJazz Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I don't want them as adversaries. Every game has them as big bads and its tiresome. Plus I love dragons, and want to ride them rather than kill them. I'd also like to have a dragon react to someone wearing dragon scale the same way you would if you saw someone wearing human flesh as a jacket. If they are sapient then skinning them is kinda wrong... "That rabbit's dynamite!" - King Arthur, Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail "Space is big, really big." - Douglas Adams
Haerski Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) It pretty much depends on story they are writing. If you want to make main character dragon it limits your choices drastically. It would most likely be just another chosen one plot, because in my opinion transforming into dragon should not be just a cheap magic trick: People being able to do that have to be born with the ability and it has to be written into story somehow. I would like to see more intimate and concentrated plot this time. Not just another Chose one/Dragonborn saving the world from inevitable destruction. EDIT: Personally I'd rather see them as adversaries and believe they should be far from common (unless the setting already says otherwise in which case ignore this). They lose a lot of their intimidation if everyone you meet is either wearing them or is one (or related to them). The older fashioned games where you see a dragon and soil yourself I would love to see replicated again. Exactly. I think Dragons should be something very rare and incredibly powerful creatures. Something you don't want to get in fight with. Edited October 18, 2012 by Haerski
SunBroSolaire Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 You can become a dragon in Dark Souls and it's $#%@ing awesome.
DocDoomII Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I'm a bit fed off with dragon. Can we have something new? 2 Do you think Pillars of Eternity doesn't have enough Portraits? Submit your vote in this Poll!
Zeer Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) I'm a bit fed off with dragon. Can we have something new? yeah, dragons are everywhere, I demand mind controlling parasite as a playable species! Edited October 18, 2012 by Zeer 1
Dragonnn Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 Dragons in Baldur's Gate 2 were a real challenge, even on easiest difficulty you had to prepare or otherwise you would be dead meat. I'd love to have them in PE or be able to be one.
Bill Gates' Son Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 You can be a dragon in NWN1 and NWN2 with transformation spells. It could be a cool transformation spell for Druids or Mages.
Coincidence Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 If they are in the game I'd love for them to be highly intelligent characters instead of just loot chests. 3
Dragonnn Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 If they are in the game I'd love for them to be highly intelligent characters instead of just loot chests. They were intelligent and very hard to fight in BG2. I think they were very well done there. 2
Swells Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Why just a dragon? I want to be able to tear the hearts out of any creature I stumble upon and devour it to gain their essence. Seriously though, if they're in the game (they should be) I like the ideas Spoony played around with in his counter monkey episode on the topic: they're smart. why would they land when they could just fly around burning you to death and casting level x spells. Might not be too fun for a game now that I think about it, but dragons should be something you utterly fear. Not just some glorified cliffracer or a fancy looking turret.
Chabneruk Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Dragons are somewhat clichee by now, having seen a lot of incarnations over the years, in films and games and books as well. Many dragons are rather animalistic, mindless creatures (though they possess a natural cunning) while others are intelligent and even have "good" and "bad" incarnations. That being said, dragons in games are rarely depicted as powerful as their abilities suggest. Even Skyrim, which had a lot of dragons, failed to show their destructive power (a scripted intro nonwithstanding) to the fullest extent. After a while they became quite "normal" enemies, spawning from time to time, but only a few of them were memorable. Even Alduin, after destroying the starting village, never attacked the strongholds with his followers. If there are dragons in PE, their destructive potential should be shown. In Baldurs Gate, Dragons were really rare and every one of them had a backstory, motivations and intentions (I remember vividly fighting against Firkraag. It was the fight you would remember asides from Irenicus and Bodhi). So, if there are dragons in PE, they should be memorable as well, ancient and destructive powers. Aaaand - to get to my point - thus it would be difficult to give player characters their abilities. Maybe when they are really, really strong, in the endgame. There might even be aspects of their abilities which you can use (Dragons Breath, Dragons Flight), showing how early mages adored them and tried to be like them. But turning into one of them? It takes away the mystery and sense of wonder that dragons can still imbue - even after all these years. 7 "Was du nicht kennst, das, meinst du, soll nicht gelten? Du meinst, daß Phantasie nicht wirklich sei? Aus ihr allein erwachsen künft'ge Welten: In dem, was wir erschaffen, sind wir frei." - Michael Ende, Das Gauklermärchen
rjshae Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 The Dragon community has a special team for hunting down false pretenders, so be careful what you wish for. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
radioactivelullaby Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 for me, dragons should be extremely hard opponents. in baldur's gate, our characters were still to inexperienced to tackle dragons. only in baldur's gate II did our characters get experienced enough to be able fight them. my point is, should our characters become that powerful in the first PE game?
Bonecrusher Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 in my opinion, dragons should not be "just another creature to kill for lvl XX players", but they should be very powerful beings. their draconic magic can be very flexible and hard to guess. instead of fighting toe to toe with the enemy, dragons can use these mystical force to weaken their foes first. with such thing, even the youngest dragons might be very challenging for the most experienced adventurers.
Calmar Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I like strong and memorable dragon opponents, but I think being able to play one oneself only leads some kind of power creep. If you'd play them, they'd need challenging opponents. Then, once the initial excitement is gone, someone thinks, 'hey I'd like to play a titan', or 'why can't we be demigods?'. Age of Wonders III !!!
jivex5k Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Whens the last time a game had a dragon that gave you riddles? And ate you for getting the answer wrong? I want my freaking riddle asking, treasure guarding dragon!
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