Elerond Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 Nice review, it is good to get know more of those not most famous members of the team. I like consept even that there is some thing that bother me. Breast plate desing for one, trigger which is too close to butt and where is gunpowder and bullet pouches. But those lovely arm plates, beatiful hair, following eyes, musket! and bad ass pose make concept likeable even with some flaws. 1
Thulean Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I was hoping black powder weapons were only at the level of hand cannons or maybe matchlocks. Nice to see some more concept art. I don't mind boob armor at all and I'm just glad we are not getting crazy mmo/JRPG armor. Edited September 27, 2012 by Thulean
SqueakyCat Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I really like the art direction alot. I'm not offended by the boob plate, but would like to see some other variations as well. Absolutely love the style.
ogrezilla Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I was hoping black powder weapons were only at the level of hand cannons or maybe matchlocks. Nice to see some more concept art. I don't mind boob armor at all and I'm just glad we are not getting crazy mmo/JRPG armor. The update that confirmed firearms said Black powder firearms are of the single-shot wheellock variety. 1
rjshae Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 Nice, but umm... a helm would mess up her hair? "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
czinczar Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 Personally I don't like that last portrait quick filter
Kaldurenik Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I kinda like it... Maybe a few tweaks but the world wont end. Overall i like the general direction of the art =)
J.E. Sawyer Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I'm pretty sure significant amount of women would take an armor with boobplate over a standard one. Because, you know, it enhances. Not all clothing is chosen for practicality, and a lady wearing full plate might be concerned the hunky fighter boys don't consider her feminine enough. Especially if she has the "biggest gun" in the whole party. This is a fantasy game, but speaking strictly about what happens in the real world, this almost never happens. Women who wind up wearing armor do need sizing that accounts for their (typically) smaller size and (typically) different body shape, but it pretty much has the same form factor and function as what the men wear. In most cases, it is literally the exact same thing the men wear. It's only recently that body armor has been designed for women, not that you would be able to guess that by looking at it. No effort is made to contour the shape. Instead, they just change the proportions. This was also true of Joan of Arc's armor, which looked virtually indistinguishable from a male knight's armor except for size and proportion. Fantasy outfits are styled to be, well, stylish, but actual people who put their lives on the line almost universally err on the side of safety rather than attractiveness. http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/sep/21/army-tests-body-armor-tailored-female-soldiers/ 7 twitter tyme
Chunkyman Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I like the concept art overall, but I'm not a big fan of boobplate. 1
Labadal Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I have no big problem with boobplate. It's still better than scantily clad female #531.
Wirdjos Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 Am I right in believing that the article Mr. Sawyer just posted explained why the plate armor wouldn't necessarily cover her midriff? It looked like the armor being strapped on in the picture ended at the start of the stomach.
dlux Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I thought the Edair concept art was awesome, but I don't really like this one. She just looks like a bordello queen in armor to me (the boob plate doesn't bother me though). I am not trying to be offensive, that is seriously what I think. She also kind of reminds me of Avelline from DA2, and I did not like man-woman Avelline at all. Edited September 27, 2012 by dlux 1
Monte Carlo Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I once worked in a job where body armour was necessary. Level II-IIIa , composite Kevlar / fabric-style armour which is obviously more flexible than steel. As Sawyer said, the female version (we had several women on our team) was virtually identical to ours. Bear in mind some of the enhanced armour had ceramic plates for high-velocity --- still no concessions for the females. They told me it wasn't that uncomfortable, as the kit was fitted properly. The girls with bigger busts ended up being a bit 'strapped down' but it was no real drama. Personally, I'm a fan of chainmail bikinis because I'm old-fashioned like that. It's fantasy. But if you want to go the realistic route (which I'm chilled about) then the female armour will look the same as the men's.
RiceMunk Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I like what I'm reading there. Especially this bit: “You shouldn’t go up levels any slower by using your non-combat skills rather than your combat skills. We plan to reward you for your accomplishments, not for your body count.” As for boobplate, kinda meh but won't make me scream bloody murder. And it's not even horribly ridiculously pronounced (compared to how boobplate usually ends up) so not too bad. Like the character's looks otherwise.
Nakia Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I like the way the armour looks. She is ready for a good fight but attractive. The boob plate is not over done and there is no center dip to draw swords, arrows or butllets. She doesn't look as if she might fall over due to her front equipment. It might be historically accurate but for a fantasy game I think it is well done. You know at a glance that she is female. I have but one enemy: myself - Drow saying
entrerix Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 Because it's Fantasy! Uhuh. you're kidding right? thats really what you saw him post? Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
Rostere Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 It's the consensus of armorers that because breastplates are already layered on top of significant padding and because breastplates are designed to slide blows cleanly away from vital areas, that designing a steel breastplate to follow the contours of breasts is unnecessary and counterproductive. Good to see some acknowledgement. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
hideo kuze Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I'm _really_ not fond of this type of artwork direction. Can't we go back to the same style as the dwarf ranger? Please? Edited September 27, 2012 by hideo kuze PoE: Cast your vote on: Stretch Goals | Game Maturity | Party Creation | Level Scaling | World Map Interface | Magic System | Replayability and Choices | Quest Solving | Romances | Multiplayer | Art StyleProduction Beard at 4 million? Yes or No?Discuss: Time based mechanics | Narrated sequences | Weapon and armor design | Breaking from current molds | Different XP pools for combat and non-combat skills | Mounts and Combat | Races to be included (4th and 5th) PoE II: the party was already over when I arrived
JeremyR Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 This is Joan of Arc's armor from her episode of Deadliest Warrior Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Piccolo Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I like the new concept art. Seems perfectly fine to me.
Rostere Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Contrary to what a lot of people in this thread seem to think, I think that the combination of gun + full armor + shield and war hammer is both sufficiently realistic and unique enough to stand out from all the generic D&D blandness. I like the art direction a lot, everything we've seen, with the sole exception of the tendency to boobplate in the last image. The chest armour should probably have a more realistic, deflecting shape. Unless of course the character in question is a high priestess of a fertility goddess and is wearing ceremonial armour, but I HIGHLY doubt that. Edited September 27, 2012 by Rostere 2 "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Shadenuat Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 you're kidding right? thats really what you saw him post? Rather what I expect later. It's all cool and right, and I completely agree and everything, it just that it contradicts with some games and stuff already have been done.
Superdeluxe Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 More concept art of the dwarven ranger and less of this kind. Cool concept with the musket plate mail tho! ~Seattle Supersonic of the Obsidian Order~ Chris Hansen is the Savior of Seattle
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