No love for AP? Maybe for a copy of KotOR2? Problem is, I can't buy those two DLC packs as they are not available on the German Steam market.

 

Use the TorBrowser to go to the Steam website - Steam will not be able to tell your region and allow you to buy anything you want. Once you own it, the Steam Client wont care where you are.

That's what I did last time I wanted something that was region locked.

Edited December 27, 201213 yr by melkathi

It's not on Xmas sale, but I finally gave in and bought that Farming 2013 simulator. It's actually not bad looking graphically, for what it is. Now to figure out how to play the darn thing so I can sell grain and ride tractors. The controls are weird. Or I'm weird. Or both.

I have that game as well LC, I have no ****ing idea what to do.

Out of interest what is it that you guys enjoy about farming simulators? Over the years it seems like simulation games of rather mundane jobs like Farming, Bus/Euro Truck Drtiving ect are becoming increasingly popular and I just don't understand the appeal at all outside of preperation for an actual career doing these things.

Edited December 27, 201213 yr by Serrano

I guess people are into them for a joke more than anything.

I know some have reservations about another account somewhere, but Green Man Gaming is having a sale on Borderlands 2, where you can get the Season Pass for $10.50 which is a steal in my opinion. I've liked them more since they started allowing paypal.

Out of interest what is it that you guys enjoy about farming simulators? Over the years it seems like simulation games of rather mundane jobs like Farming, Bus/Euro Truck Drtiving ect are becoming increasingly popular and I just don't understand the appeal at all outside of preperation for an actual career doing these things.

 

Train simulator I could easily understand (as trains have been a huge hobbyist industry for a long time). Wouldn't surprise me if there's some level of it for Farming Simulator as well. If it's just an economic simulator (while driving around with farming equipment too), I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have a similar appeal to say, SimCity? SimCity has always been a lot of fun for me, but whenever I try explaining the game to someone, I can't really do it without it sounding really boring.

 

I get the impression that the Train one has found its niche, as I think they have like set records for the amount of DLC they have shipped with their games.

If it's just an economic simulator (while driving around with farming equipment too), I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have a similar appeal to say, SimCity?

Pretty much. Economic management strategy + a bit of sim. Start with little, try to build it into something huge while staying profitable etc. It's basically, imo, one type of resource-RTS for people who don't want combat in their game or as goals. The resource/management and expanding part without the fighting, with a slower pace. Not a direct analogy mechanics wise, but sorta that feelings wise, perhaps.

 

I guess people are into them for a joke more than anything.

I think there are plenty of people who take them rather seriously. Probably not so much in the US, tho. Still..like alanschu said, every genre has some niche audience that loves 'em.

Oh I'm sure they do - for trains specially. Not so sure at who would want a Garbage truck simulator, but maybe that one entails setting up and managing a sanitation system which could be fun. Just that it was a funny thing on Reddit and some other sites to get the game and laugh at it being non-gamey or something stupid like that.

sleeping dogs is on flash sale right now for $16.99

Oh I'm sure they do - for trains specially. Not so sure at who would want a Garbage truck simulator, but maybe that one entails setting up and managing a sanitation system which could be fun. Just that it was a funny thing on Reddit and some other sites to get the game and laugh at it being non-gamey or something stupid like that.

Haha....I'm not sure I could get into a dedicated Garbage truck simulator myself. Not into trains as a hobby, and for my personal tastes I don't "get" realistic flying simulators either - sitting in a plane seat staring at dials isn't very interesting to me. Those things aren't my types of setting. For some reason, planting fields and raising cows is. If I can figure out how to play it.

A silly question, but is there a manual on the steam page? (Although I know a lot of the time they don't work very well...)

Thanks everyone. Simulators are one of the few gaming genres that are completely alien to me but they make much more sense now.

 

Sometimes manuals are in the directory folder on your computer rather than on the game's library page.

Edited December 27, 201213 yr by Serrano

Haha....I'm not sure I could get into a dedicated Garbage truck simulator myself. Not into trains as a hobby, and for my personal tastes I don't "get" realistic flying simulators either - sitting in a plane seat staring at dials isn't very interesting to me. Those things aren't my types of setting. For some reason, planting fields and raising cows is. If I can figure out how to play it.

 

Well not driving a garbage truck around, but setting up a system is what's fun about some simulation games for me. Granted I'm terrible at it as my Caesar 4 cities will show you

I love simulation games. SimCity was the first, but I have played pretty much all the Sim games from the 90s (ironically, The Sims doesn't appeal to me at all lol). I loved playing games like Capitalism (1 and 2).

best sim game = simant.

 

im having deja vu.

Since we are talking about management games.

Have any of you played Fate of the World?

That is a good game. Depressing, but good.

Tell me about L.A. Noire.

 

Good price but main protagonist having potato-face is major turn-off. Every noir protagonist should be modeled after Humphrey Bogart by default.

Every noir protagonist should be modeled after Humphrey Bogart by default.

The Continental Op disagrees. (It isn't covered by the wiki entry, but he was consistently described as a short-ish guy with a little extra weight on him. And he's pretty much where the whole "hard-boiled detective" thing started.)

Eh, noir isn't really noir if it's simply trying to replicate aesthetics. Anyway, I picked up L.A. Noire on a past $5 sale and haven't installed it yet but plan to after finishing 1 or 2 other games. From what I gathered, the quality of the game varies by quite a bit, but the setting and good moments should be worth $5.

sleeping dogs is on flash sale right now for $16.99

While that was a good price, the DLC seems $18 (even if the majority is crap). I'll wait for the collection to go on sale. Handling all that DLC is annoying on it's own.

(and yes, game devs, that's why some games sell waaaay past day 1)

Last two (three?) Steam sales I haven't bought a single game. Is it me or are the sales becoming worse..?

It's not that the sales are worse it's that everyone has snapped up most of the games they're interested in already and have a massive backlog of stuff to play. I've seen plenty of good games and packs on sale that I already own.

Got Xcom: Enemy Unknown for $17.50 from Green Man Gaming. Activates on Steam.

Last two (three?) Steam sales I haven't bought a single game. Is it me or are the sales becoming worse..?

Same here, there's nothing i'd even think about buying there. :/