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APB shutdown: This what happens when you make an MMO

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The other MMO's like Eve online are making money, but only about enough to cover their costs.

 

 

Source for that ?

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Uh, The guys who made Champions online were aiming for a ballpark of 20k subscribers I think because at that point it would be determined they could do a Villian game and be successful at it.

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The thing is, WoW has a +90% market share and is showing no signs of losing players to others games.

That's like saying "make no more hack&slash 'cause there is Diablo II", "make no more RTS 'cause there is StarCraft 2", make no more RPG 'cause there is BioWare", "make no more freeform games 'cause there is Bethesda", "make no more FPS 'cause there is MW2" etc. etc. etc.

 

And is UO (Ultima Online for those of you who are post-WoW) not still running as well?

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I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5.

 

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The thing is, WoW has a +90% market share and is showing no signs of losing players to others games.

That's like saying "make no more hack&slash 'cause there is Diablo II", "make no more RTS 'cause there is StarCraft 2", make no more RPG 'cause there is BioWare", "make no more freeform games 'cause there is Bethesda", "make no more FPS 'cause there is MW2" etc. etc. etc.

 

And is UO (Ultima Online for those of you who are post-WoW) not still running as well?

 

I know there are some free realms still around. I think it still is though. EA has proven to be pretty bad at managing MMO's, I'm sure they hope TOR will reverse their fortune.

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Kaftan Barlast

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The thing with MMO's is that very few people have time to play more than one, and the total number of MMO players is relatively fixed, so in order to compete you need to steal players from other MMO's. Its not like normal games, where you play one game one weekend and then another the next. Think of it as a cake, where the only chance of you getting a bigger piece is if someone else gives up a portion of his. And Blizzard is the biggest, meanest, toughest guy in the room... that also happens to have claimed 3/4ths of the cake as his.

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A few people here have suggested that All Points Bulletin was a bad game. Can I ask why?

 

Bad driving model, terrible shooting model, not very tactical really, the game basically ends up as whoever gets to the mission point camps. Awful mission implementation, I dunno running upto a window playing a bad animation and then spawning a pick-up and having that be the player rob some place is just plane lame.

 

Also the game lacks environments, and well... It also lacks any point.

 

They spent so many years working on the customisation tools they clearly forgot to make a game. I've met a few guys who turned down jobs at realtime worlds, the reason was that it was clear that this game was missing something.

 

It's bad direction like APB, that ultimately lead to the demise of realtime worlds.

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Its like there is some idea in the world that Blizzard is infalible? Which is a pile of steaming doggie poo.

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Its like there is some idea in the world that Blizzard is infalible? Which is a pile of steaming doggie poo.

 

Far from infallible, they just haven't failed until now, and their design and marketing strategy are among the smartest in the industry, which is surely something that you know much better than me, being inside that industry we're talking about.

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The thing with MMO's is that very few people have time to play more than one, and the total number of MMO players is relatively fixed, so in order to compete you need to steal players from other MMO's. Its not like normal games, where you play one game one weekend and then another the next. Think of it as a cake, where the only chance of you getting a bigger piece is if someone else gives up a portion of his. And Blizzard is the biggest, meanest, toughest guy in the room... that also happens to have claimed 3/4ths of the cake as his.

 

You are just making stuff up. Here is a chart of MMO subscriptions, which has had a steady climb. Also, WoW has had a steady drop in the last couple years in subscription numbers, which means there is a void to be filled.

 

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Its like there is some idea in the world that Blizzard is infalible? Which is a pile of steaming doggie poo.

 

Far from infallible, they just haven't failed until now, and their design and marketing strategy are among the smartest in the industry, which is surely something that you know much better than me, being inside that industry we're talking about.

 

Sure, all true, but I'm not a massive fan of their games, their IP space is all ripped off.

 

Blizzard are great at what they do.

 

But what they do isn't for me at all.

I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. 

Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.

Down and out on the Solomani Rim
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The thing with MMO's is that very few people have time to play more than one, and the total number of MMO players is relatively fixed, so in order to compete you need to steal players from other MMO's. Its not like normal games, where you play one game one weekend and then another the next. Think of it as a cake, where the only chance of you getting a bigger piece is if someone else gives up a portion of his. And Blizzard is the biggest, meanest, toughest guy in the room... that also happens to have claimed 3/4ths of the cake as his.

 

You are just making stuff up. Here is a chart of MMO subscriptions, which has had a steady climb. Also, WoW has had a steady drop in the last couple years in subscription numbers, which means there is a void to be filled.

Oh no, looks like we've reached peak MMO :)

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what's that massive crash between 2009 and 2010? what caused it? I don't remember anything about it in the news

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I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe.

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hahaha, wow :( 1/3 of subscribers out in an instant, nice move on the chinese government's part

Walsingham said:

I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe.

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WILL THE ALMIGHTY

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So... how about that Star Wars MMO?

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I want teh kotor 3

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I hope it fails and Bio realizes they shouldn't waste thier time making ****y-*** MMOs.

In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum.

 

R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS

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