NWN2 Discussion Thread

[Noceur]

In the graphics options it doesn't list AA x2, x4, x6 and what not.  Instead you can individual pick and choose your settings such as you could have AA relaxed and not used if you are zoomed clear out but if you zoom all the way in AA kicks in.  Or vice versa.

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Shouldn't it be the other way around? AA doesn't fix texture aliasing, but edge-drawing on geometry (and transparancy maps (but not clip-maps, I think, lollipop)). So the gain would be larger when zoomed out (less pixels drawn on complex meshes, meaning more jaggies).

 

Perhaps you're thinking of bilinear, trilinear and Anistropic filtering? Those would work with the settings you described, they also filter textures.

[Sand]

Its all technobabble to me. I just set the game to medium settings and that is good enough for me.

[Pope]

Its all technobabble to me.  I just set the game to medium settings and that is good enough for me.

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Well I'm not planning to buy a new

[Noceur]

Anyway, seriously, I agree that AA should be pretty standard these days. Note however, that there are some rendering techniques that makes it impossible to use AA (due to doing/computing things in a different order) tied to how an engine handles light (Example: Deferred Lighting method).

 

GRAW (PC) is an example of this.

Edited November 2, 2006 by Noceur

[Pidesco]

Check this out:

 

http://www.nwn2news.net/modules/news/artic...hp?storyid=1079

 

I guess that 1% chance kicked in.

[Kaftan Barlast]

And just to prove what a sad fanboy I am, I went out and bought a vanilla copy downtown from a store that didnt care about tomorrow being the official release. )

 

 

it cost me a ton of cash though

 

 

 

edit: since I have a preorder code, the only ingame thing I will miss with the vanilla is the "blessed of waukeen" feat, right?

Edited November 2, 2006 by Kaftan Barlast

[Dark_Raven]

Probably. Doesn't sound that great of a feat does it?

[deganawida]

Posting my question in this thread, 'cause it may not belong in the other.

 

Question: Is the tooltip display for Favored Enemy incorrect, or did y'all not change FE to match 3.5? The display says that it grants +1 to damage, Spot, Listen, and Taunt, with an addition +1 every five levels (plus an additional FE). However, 3.5E has Favored Enemy bonus at +2 at level 1, and an additional +2 (assigned wherever one wishes) at level 5 and every 5 levels thereafter.

[Lyric Suite]

Is there still a way to get the special edition somewhere? Didn't realize it was a limited offer...

[Junai]

i'm on the low end of the system requirements, but i'm running it beautifully at 1280x1024. no hitches, no glitches. :D

 

pentium 2.53

radeon x700 (256 mb)

sound audigy 1

1 gb ram

windows xp, all updates

 

V***V

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That's.. wonderful news.

 

J.

[Big Bottom]

since I have a preorder code, the only ingame thing I will miss with the vanilla is the "blessed of waukeen" feat, right?

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Yup, that's it.

[Darque]

Wait, there's a bonus feat for the deluxe version?

[Noceur]

Ah! CDON has finally shipped my NWN 2 CE box. ^_^

Will probably be here on monday (although, sometimes the post office decides to do their job, in which case I'll actually get it tomorrow).

 

Darque: Yeah, the Blessed of Waukeen thingy. +1 on saving throws or summin. I also read something about special merchants and stuff, although there's different info whereever one looks.

 

Regardless, you can't feel bad about which version you got if you watch this guy:

 

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire Dude

 

[Darque]

Darque: Yeah, the Blessed of Waukeen thingy. +1 on saving throws or summin. I also read something about special merchants and stuff, although there's different info whereever one looks.

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Hey, wicked. Thanks.

 

I may have to track down the limited edition one instead

[Noceur]

Darque: Yeah, the Blessed of Waukeen thingy. +1 on saving throws or summin. I also read something about special merchants and stuff, although there's different info whereever one looks.

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Hey, wicked. Thanks.

 

I may have to track down the limited edition one instead

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Hmm, it seems to work as a buff though... there's a thread in this forum section about it (as you know). Ah well, I won't know for sure until I get my lewt.

 

EDIT: "The Merchant's Friend is the second bonus you get for preordering from EB/Gamestop or Best Buy." from some comments on Amazon.

Edited November 2, 2006 by Noceur

[Sargallath Abraxium]

Regardless, you can't feel bad about which version you got if you watch this guy:

 

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire Dude

 

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...that was freakin' hilarious...

 

 

...WHO LUVS YA, BABY!!...

[Volourn]

Funny, and sad at the same time. What's worse is that he knew he got it wrong even before she said so. OW!

[Lare Kikkeli]

there's a unique merchant or two that are in the CE...pretty good stuff, or so i hear. they're in the game in the normal version too, just not in the OC. i'd guess that you can download them in a few weeks, like the bonus merchants in BG2

[Noceur]

there's a unique merchant or two that are in the CE...pretty good stuff, or so i hear. they're in the game in the normal version too, just not in the OC. i'd guess that you can download them in a few weeks, like the bonus merchants in BG2

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I hope so ... I'd rather have some sniggitzin' merchants than the waukeen thingy, to be honest. What would've been really cool is if they'd included a special History with the CE, one for the Evil box and one for the Good box.

 

EDIT: History meaning the Character background thingy.

Edited November 2, 2006 by Noceur

[Spider]

Merchant's Friend is available in the US LE versions, Blessing of Waukeen in the Europena ones. I've already found Merchant's Friend on the web, but since I have the European version it doesn't seem to work. Or if it works, there is no way of telling, it doesn't show up anywhere like the blessing.

[Kaftan Barlast]

 

 

Well, I seem to have gona some way into the whole FSAA and HDR mystery. Since NWN2 seems to have HDR enabled by default, you cant force it to run FSAA because simultaneous FSAA+HDR is not supported unless youve got an ATI card with haxx

[Pidesco]

There's a bunch of people at Bioware's forums who swear that there's no HDR in NWN2.

[Noceur]

Well, I seem to have gona some way into the whole FSAA and HDR mystery. Since NWN2 seems to have HDR enabled by default, you cant force it to run FSAA because simultaneous FSAA+HDR is not supported unless youve got an ATI card with haxx

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Aye, thanks! That is indeed correct (can't have em both on most cards), and indeed solves the mystery.

 

And it definately looks like you've got HDR going on there.

 

btw, do you know if you can even have bloom and FSAA without SM3.0? Might be because of certain engines being built certain ways, but in most SM2.0 games and earlier you can't pick AA if you've got bloom on. That would further detail the problem.

 

EDIT: Actually, make that pre SM2.0... I'm thinking about games like Thief III and Deus Ex 2, and they're not SM2.0.

 

EDIT2: Removed the imagine in my quote. Also, nevermind... Thief 3 etc use Pixel Shader 1.1 instructions, so it's got nothing to do with NWN 2.

Edited November 2, 2006 by Noceur

[Dark_Raven]

HDR, FSAA translate? I'm afraid I'm not a computer geek like the rest of you.

 

 

Looks like the Devs put Malak in the game by the way.

[metadigital]

There's a lot of people on Bioware's forums complaining about NWN2 not having both HDR and AA. Is this true? And more importantly, does it matter?

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Not that it is an excuse, but there aren't any graphics card solutions available that CAN display HDR and AA at high resolutions right now ... that'll need the next gen of cards, probably.