Mr. Sawyer Owns Us All With NWN2!!!

[Pidesco]

Question:

 

In what ways can we change the appearance of the PC during character creation?

[Dark_Raven]

"Actually I can't see what's the deal with camera in NWN1, I could easily rotate (hold mouse wheel) and zoom without spending too much time on it."

 

I agree. NWN1's camera angle/control was aweosme and easy to change if you disliked a certain view.

 

And, Grom is correct about the IE party control stuff.

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I dislike that view. If they used a camera view like Kotor or Bloodlines it would have been nice.

[Judge Hades]

NWN 1 has a view option like KotOR and Bloodlines.

[Dark_Raven]

It has a 3rd person view and a pseudo first person view where you vision is limited at looking at the ground and barely a foot ahead of you.

[Judge Hades]

It has the KotOR option in the control option panel if memory serves.

[Volourn]

"It has a 3rd person view and a pseudo first person view where you vision is limited at looking at the ground and barely a foot ahead of you."

 

Oh really? How quickly they forget that NWN has 3 view options. WOWSERS!

[CoM_Solaufein]

I think the NWN 1 camera control is the best I have seen in any game.  It is one of the aspects I do like about it.

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I agree. I like being able to zoom in or out. Helpful when you are in a fight, you can zoom out and see where the enemies are at.

[Dark_Raven]

"It has a 3rd person view and a pseudo first person view where you vision is limited at looking at the ground and barely a foot ahead of you."

 

Oh really? How quickly they forget that NWN has 3 view options. WOWSERS!

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Yeah wowsers! Just turned on the game to check and found it under Controls. Still not that great.

[Llyranor]

Heh. I've always used the topdown view. Never found the others useful.

[kirottu]

Llyranor

[Atreides]

K this is a weird question - what's up with nwn2news.net? I go to them to get collected dev posts but they've been down for the past few days.

[Gromnir]

Heh. I've always used the topdown view. Never found the others useful.

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that was Gromnir's experience.

 

some folks really want to hate nwn, as if there ain't 'nuff good reasons to hate nwn, but even the bio haters gets tired 'bout complaining of limited party-size and subpar writing.

 

camera views? Camera Views! nwn sucks, so their camera views must suck too. bioware and their freaking worthless camera views. i hate bioware. they ruined nwn with their limited camera view options.

 

whatever.

 

as long as they got topdown and we can unlock and move camera 'round while game is paused we will be satisfied. the other "options" all seemed pretty worthless and largely unnecessary.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Judge Hades]

 

I am not a huge fan of NWN but when I see something good I tell it and the camera controls of NWN are the best in any game.

[Volourn]

You are a huge fan of NWN. Just admit it after all this years. Geez. Actions are louder than words. And, your actions betray your words.

[Llyranor]

He also hates consoles. This is proven by the fact that he owns more consoles than I currently do.

[Darque]

Llyranor always finds the funniest sig pics.

[Volourn]

Llyr wins.

[Dark_Raven]

Heh. I've always used the topdown view. Never found the others useful.

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that was Gromnir's experience.

 

some folks really want to hate nwn, as if there ain't 'nuff good reasons to hate nwn, but even the bio haters gets tired 'bout complaining of limited party-size and subpar writing.

 

camera views? Camera Views! nwn sucks, so their camera views must suck too. bioware and their freaking worthless camera views. i hate bioware. they ruined nwn with their limited camera view options.

 

whatever.

 

as long as they got topdown and we can unlock and move camera 'round while game is paused we will be satisfied. the other "options" all seemed pretty worthless and largely unnecessary.

 

HA! Good Fun!

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Sometimes Gommie knows his stuff.

[Pop]

Heh. I've always used the topdown view. Never found the others useful.

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that was Gromnir's experience.

 

some folks really want to hate nwn, as if there ain't 'nuff good reasons to hate nwn, but even the bio haters gets tired 'bout complaining of limited party-size and subpar writing.

 

camera views? Camera Views! nwn sucks, so their camera views must suck too. bioware and their freaking worthless camera views. i hate bioware. they ruined nwn with their limited camera view options.

 

whatever.

 

as long as they got topdown and we can unlock and move camera 'round while game is paused we will be satisfied. the other "options" all seemed pretty worthless and largely unnecessary.

 

HA! Good Fun!

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Heh, I didn't like NWN because the main quests consisted of retrieving objects placed in caves in the center of 4 satellite areas connected to the main town area. And you did this 3 times. It felt sloppy, like a half-assed PnP dungeon crawl. I was okay with the dialogue writing, and I thought the camera system was pretty ****in' good.

 

Maybe I didn't detect your sarcasm to an adequate degree.

Edited October 15, 2006 by Pop

[Pop]

So did anybody figure out what C & D bugs were, exactly?

[Leferd]

So did anybody figure out what C & D bugs were, exactly?

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A = Gamebreakers. Hard/soft crashes.

 

B = Major gameplay bugs.

 

C = Graphical issues (clipping, stuttering etc.,) AI, general gameplay bugs.

 

D = Text (spelling, grammar etc.,)

 

Just a guess of some examples.

Edited October 16, 2006 by Leferd

[Volourn]

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/739/739500p1.html

[Dark_Raven]

More pretty screenshots. Nice article also.

[Darque]

Thanks Volourn.

[Gorgon]

The faces look kinda bland after Oblivion. Would have been nice if they could have stolen that feature. You never got bored with character creation even after you got bored with the game.

 

Looks cool all around though, the only way is down with expectations like this.